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    Colts have 4th pick (Official Discussion Thread)

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    12 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

    Not sure why titans would do that. Arizona urging put made up rumors go get colts to jump does make sense.

    Because hurting your enemy always makes sense.  If we spend additional draft resources to "cut off" the Titans trading up, even when they have no real intention to, then that's less ammo we have to get better.  So Tennessee trying to push us to trade up for no reason does make sense as well.

     

    Now excuse me as I adjust my tin foil hat.

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    Colts have 4th pick (Official Discussion Thread)

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    2 minutes ago, Fluke_33 said:

    Why would that be an alert?  If they did trade for 3 i would understand you have a setting for notifications for trades but if not then you should be getting a  notification every minute.

    I have it set up for alerts from AFCS teams.  Unfortunately it does include plenty of these "news" bits that aren't really news.

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    Colts have 4th pick (Official Discussion Thread)

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    3 minutes ago, #12. said:

     

    In calling Andrew Moore a reporter, we might be using the term a bit loosely.  He has a YouTube podcast with a thousand subscribers.

     

    My take on it:  when it comes to Zach Hicks and Richardson, when it comes to certain other podcasters and Richardson, there seems to be a lot of wishful thinking involved.

    You've noticed that too, huh?  It's definitely intense how much some of these guys are smitten with AR.  Hopefully if we take him they're proven right, but man... it's definitely a risky, risky pick.

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    Colts have 4th pick (Official Discussion Thread)

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    10 minutes ago, VikingsFanInChennai said:

    Now that picks 1 & 2 could go QB, would you think moving up to #3 is necessary? What if they're not sure about the QBs after top 2 in their board, in case the first 2 drafting teams get the same guys? 

     

    In the case of not liking any of the other QBs, what would be your plan - is it better to take the best defensive player available and draft a QB later, with a vet signed up for this season? 

     

    Do you think top 2 options being gone in this draft a big loss for the Colts? With the hindsight, I guess the only scenario Colts could've had a chance at top 2 QBs was by having moved up to #1 themselves, other than having Colts' top 2 QB still available after Panthers and Texans draft. 

     

    If Colts stay still at #4, and top 3 draft picks all get QB, the potential to over reach and not get the player actually valuable at #4 by chasing after QBs is very real. They'd still retain #35, future draft picks intact to try next year though. 

    In this instance I think you HAVE to go Will Anderson.  We desperately need a QB but how do you turn down the consensus top player in the draft at #4 at a position that we've been struggling to adequately fill?  Kwity/Grover/Defo/Anderson looks good to me!

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    Colts have 4th pick (Official Discussion Thread)

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    Could "that kid from Alabama" or whatever Irsay said be Will Anderson?

     

    If AZ trades back and 3 QBs go 1-2-3, do we really think Ballard would turn down the chance to get the consensus best player in the draft at a serious impact position at pick #4? I don't. I'd guess we grab Anderson and potentially trade back into the first for Hooker (or stand pat if they don't feel they really want that 5th year option).

    Colts have 4th pick (Official Discussion Thread)

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    2 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

    Question for you guys. If you had to give up a bunch to get stroud or young would you rather do that or take Levis at 4?

    Ultimately I'd be fine with either scenario.  Not really something I can control and I don't have the information necessary to say anything I'd do would be better.

     

    I'd PREFER landing one of Stroud/Young as I think they make us competitive again right away.  If that costs some extra draft picks, so be it.  At least we'll truly know the team wanted that specific QB and didn't just take home leftovers.

    I'd be most EXCITED to watch Richardson just to see what he does, even if I wouldn't have that much confidence in winning games.

    I'd be pretty MEH for Levis, honestly.  Not upset, but doesn't really move the needle at all for me.  Feels like someone that will just be good enough to keep us in the middle of the pack for years to come.  But hey, I've been wrong before and I'll gladly be wrong again!

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    Colts have 4th pick (Official Discussion Thread)

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    Saw a report somewhere last night saying one of the 2 teams that has contacted the Bears for #1 overall was the Titans, picking at #11.  That'd be a kick in the nards if Titans and Texans grab QBs at #1 and #2.   Could just be a strategic move to drive the price up and/or make Houston and Indy antsy to part with draft capital.

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    Colts have 4th pick (Official Discussion Thread)

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    2 minutes ago, danlhart87 said:

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    I have ZERO problem with trading up for your guy, even if the QB we pick isn't my first choice... but that haul is absolute clown shoes.  I'm a big Ballard guy and even I'd fire him immediately after that trade is announced haha.  At that point you stick to your "this is what I'm willing to pay" and either try again with AZ or stand pat.  Even if QBs go 1-2-3, you take Anderson or trade back for your own haul and try again later.

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    Colts have 4th pick (Official Discussion Thread)

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    Just now, danlhart87 said:

    I have opened my mind up to any of the top QBs with no favoritism. I like Young the most but would be perfectly fine with Levis Stroud or Richardson. 

    Kind of where I'm at, too.  I want Stround first and foremost, personally, but it would be easy to get behind the decision to draft either of the other 2.  I just don't see where AR15 keeps getting slotted in with these 3.  That completion % is bad.  What's the difference between AR15 and the Malik kid from Liberty that went to the Titans in like the 3rd round last year?  (Genuine question as all I know is both were/are raw but had traits that scouts loved but Malik fell to the 3rd after being consistently mocked in the 1st)

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    Mechi Becton a possibility at 13?

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    Just now, coltsfanatic24 said:

    Drafting a offensive linemen at 13 would be very redundant and I would lose some confidence in Ballard if he were to do that. Also, eventually they’re going to have to pay Nelson, Kelly, and Smith top money at their position. 

    I agree.  It wouldn't make me think less of Ballard, necessarily, because we know it's an upcoming need. It would make me feel like 2020 was more of a punt than if we took a different, hoghly rated prospect. We're pretty sure that if we got one of the top 4 OT in this draft, that we got a probable LT to replace AC in 1 or 2 years. That's a position that takes premium draft capital, so addressing that when we have the chance to do so without trading up and spending more picks kind of makes sense to me. But with the current state of the team, taking a position of more immediate need would be more exciting and probably more immediately beneficial. I just try to envision myself and what I would do if my entire professional life depended on each pick... (which makes me extremely flip-floppy and totally unqualified for the position, lol). I don't want an OT at 13... but it wouldn't be damning in my eyes. Just pretty redundant and disappointing. 

    Mechi Becton a possibility at 13?

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    25 minutes ago, coltsfanatic24 said:

    How many great offensive linemen does one team need? This Colts team has a top 3 offensive line and all the starters are coming back. I know AC considered retiring but he’s coming back on a likely two year deal.

     

    The team has so many needs and offensive line is very low on the list. What we do need are playmakers on the defensive line and at WR. If all of the defensive prospects that Ballard want are off the board at 13 then I would go with Lamb or Jeudy. I have them ranked higher than Becton and would have an immediate impact. 

    I have to agree with this. Our OL at this point, in terms of round drafted, is 1, 1, 1, 4, 2. The idea that we draft an OT in Rd 1 to play RT and move Smith to RG would result in a 1, 1, 1, 2, 1... all of which would have been drafted by this franchise. That's an insane amount of resources spent on the OL when we're already getting top of the league performance from that unit. I am in 100% agreement that we need to draft 1 or 2 OL in this draft, with an OT by the end of day 2... but at some point you hit the point of diminishing returns. I wouldn't necessarily be mad about taking an OT in round 1 this year with the idea of replacing Costanzo, but it would seem a bit redundant to me.

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