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2 hours ago, Tsarquise said:
Wonder what they would do with Richardson if Luck wanted to come back and play lol.
Keep him so when Luck chickens out a second time, they don’t have a QB carousel… again
That said, Luck looks no where near football shape. So this what if is something that we’ll never have to worry about
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11 hours ago, jvan1973 said:
1998
No one was claiming we should have went Leaf after 98 either. Before and just after the draft some people did. But even in that 3-13 season, it was clear Manning was much better than Leaf
Yep you’re right, I was thinking the 6-10 season.
10 hours ago, Indeee said:It wouldn't shock me to see the Colts trade their 15th overall, a conditional 2025 pick, and Alec Pierce to the niners for their 31st selection overall and Aiyuk.
I know Aiyuk wants an extension, but I think the Colts could do it.
This is a pure guess and only contingent that the Colts could not find any trade partners to grab a wideout at 15.
Not gonna happen
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8 minutes ago, jvan1973 said:
It helps when you have a HOF QB
Yet he wasn’t a HoF QB in year two. Infact, for those of us old enough to remember, there were some calling Peyton a bust in 2001 when we went 3-13 and saying we should have gone Leaf…
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well gotta break the streak of no new Luck related threads in several weeks…
For those still holding out some fantasy level of hope of Luck returning, he put that to bed. It’s over.
best wishes in retirement.
there, all done.
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4 hours ago, krunk said:
Something feels a little different. I'm still sticking by my guns and saying no but maybe they really are entertaining a trade up. Maybe Reggie is in Ballard ear saying "Bruh we need to give AR what #18 had!". "He needs The Arsenal".
I get the same feeling honestly. My brain says it’s either stand pat or trade back but there’s something in the air that says the Colts are up to something.
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1 hour ago, 1959Colts said:
Interesting. Lots of WRs…. Hint or smoke screen
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25 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:
"had he not quit"
- even ol' Homer was smart enough to catch that change 
. I guess in a way he did quit if you want to be blunt about it.
Hehe just testing you…
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49 minutes ago, Smonroe said:
The commissioner can make the decision no matter what the legal outcome happened to be.Not exactly the same, but Zeke Elliot was suspended six games after not being found guilty in a similar situation. (I want to emphasize that I know it was different)
Again, I really don’t want to get into his guilt or innocence. I’m just curious on how the Colts will handle it. I think he’s a very good TE. (And I’m not just saying that because he went to one of my Alma’s)
I think the colts have handled it already. If they were going to do anything different, it’d already have been done.
they usually are quick to act if they think there’s credibility to the offense. See Rogers for example. Or the two they cut/suspended last season. The fact they’ve not done anything publicly tells me that the issue is over for them. Now, does that mean he’ll be on the team come September, no, but if he’s not, it’ll be because of a performance issue and likely not related to this now dismissed charge
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16 minutes ago, Superman said:
I think the nature of the difference is important. In this case, it seems to me that the investigation of Ogletree casts serious doubt on the validity of the accusation. If the NFL investigation leads them to believe that he actually did engage in domestic violence, then that's a different story. None of us knows the details, so I guess we'll see.
In Elliott's case, he was not found not guilty. He was never charged, apparently because prosecutors didn't think they had enough to bring a winnable case. The NFL investigated and found what they called credible evidence to support the allegations. If that's the case with Ogletree, then a suspension is likely. I'm just assuming, based on the charges being dismissed with prejudice, that there's no credible evidence, and the evidence they used to charge him was later shown to be not just insufficient, but inaccurate. Otherwise, the charges would have been dismissed without prejudice, in case they decide to refile charges in the future. With prejudice seems close to an exoneration.
And it seems like people expect the NFL to issue a suspension simply because he was accused and charged, so they have to do something. But if there's no credible evidence, I don't think there will be a suspension. Again, I don't know any of the details, and I could be wrong, I just think dismissed with prejudice is an important factor here. And I don't think the league will default to a suspension if there's no credible evidence.
Completely agree.
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On 4/11/2024 at 10:29 AM, 2006Coltsbestever said:
Me too and he looked in awe at how Luck won that game. Luck was always better Stafford at that point and he was just a rookie. Luck would have gone down as a top 10 QB of all-time had he not quit.
Maybe so
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On 4/6/2024 at 7:27 PM, NewColtsFan said:
It’s amazing how little you know about Andrew Luck. He didn’t love the deep ball. His offensive coordinator did. Bruce Arians. Luck came from Stanford which ran the West Coast offense, you know, throwing short.
Arians and Pagano were old school coaches who believed in the big chunk play offense.
As for everything else, not a surprise you decide it was all Luck’s fault. You’ve only been selling that for over 10 years. It’s impressive to be THAT WRONG for THAT LONG! Bravo!!
No, it wasn’t all Lucks fault. It was the perfect storm of bad everything that caused it.
A QB that thought he could play like a LB and carry the entire tea
A QB who injured himself more in off season snowboarding than he did playing football.
a GM and HC that let him play like that and expected him too
An OC known for 3 step drops and deep balls for the first few years of his career.
A HC that knew little about modern football and thought it was the 1980s(Reich wasn’t much better)
and OL for most of his career that couldn’t block an 80 year old grandma.
all of that contributed. Luck wasn’t entirely at fault, but he does honestly share some portion of his own demise physically. That said, some of the very things that led to his shortened career like his style of play is what made him great while it lasted. Problem is, that kind of play isn’t and wasn’t sustainable against modern NFL players and hits.
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41 minutes ago, Superman said:
I don't know anymore than anyone else, but I don't see why he would be suspended, based on what's been reported. I can't think of any other player who was accused of something, had all charges dismissed -- with prejudice, in this case -- and then was still suspended by the league.
I can’t either and honestly, I think it’d open the league up to a lawsuit.
bottom line is this: the charges were dismissed with PREJUDICE. Not just dismissed. The Prejudice part is very key here. It’s the same thing as being fully acquitted. The charges can never again be brought against him.
which based on my nearly 20 years of law enforcement experience, means they found out that the evidence proved A: he either did not do it as claimed or B: acted in self defense, or C, was completely made up.
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15 hours ago, Dobbinblitz said:
Great Trade -Yes. Crosby would cost more than Buckner did. I think obtaining Buckner was Ballard's best trade to date, but I would not categorize the move as swinging for the fences. The cost was straight up pick 13. I don't believe the Colts would ever get Crosby for the 15th pick. Crosby is still only 26.
So was Buckner at that time…
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2 hours ago, richard pallo said:
TRADE IDEA. I just read where Mark Davis has given new GM Tom Telesco permission to move up in the draft for a quarterback if it makes sense. They are sitting at pick 13. We know Ballard was trying to sign Danielle Hunter to a big contract and lost out. Obviously still trying for that premium ER. How about Ballard does a trade similar to the Buckner trade. Offer our pick 15 to the Raiders for Max Crosby. According to the draft charts our pick coupled with pick 13 results in 2200 points which coincidentally is the equivalent to pick 3 value wise. They could always add an extra pick or so if need be to trade up. They might not have to go all the way up to 3 either. I also wouldn’t have a problem including Dayo or Kwity as part of the trade to give them a player to replace Crosby. I would think a trade like this would be agreed to in advance of the draft and would only go down if the quarterback they wanted was there. If they did go to three and they liked a couple then I would think it could be done before the draft. The big question is would the Raiders part with Crosby to get the franchise quarterback they want. I could see this is a win win if they really want to get a quarterback this year. Knowing how Ballard tried for the veteran Hunter I could see him at least having the conversation with Telesco. Maybe they say no or maybe they say let us think about it. If Telesco wants to bring in his own quarterback this is the perfect time for him. Just a thought on my part two weeks before the draft. I believe we traded for Buckner before the draft so having a conversation with Telesco now makes sense to me. If Ballard wants to make a splash move this trade proposal would certainly qualify and fill a major need as well. Like I said two weeks to go to the draft. Seems like forever.
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1 hour ago, Dobbinblitz said:Yes, a real difference-maker for the defense. The issue would be a 27 million cap hit in both 2025 and 2026, 24 mil in 2024. Also, have not seen a swing for the fences move by Ballard for a non roster player in his time with the Colts.
Buckner says hi
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53 minutes ago, ColtStrong2013 said:
Fun fact on Mel Kiper. Between the 2010 and 2014, five total drafts, Mel nailed an entire eight draft picks on his predictions. Two of those were Andrew Luck and Anthony Castonzo. Last year, he got 1.5 picks correct out of every 31.
I'm now going to go bet my house that the Indianapolis Colts do not select Arnold this year.
I didn’t even think he was that high
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On 4/8/2024 at 5:14 PM, Solid84 said:
Yeah as tight lipped as the colts are, I don’t buy it
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I’m out. Barely been able to check in anyway
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On 4/8/2024 at 5:02 PM, DougDew said:
Nelson, Smith, Kelly, and Leonard never got the shot. Most of the stars/leaders. IIRC, Irsay sort of laid the leadership thing on Wentz, in that he didn't whip his team into doing what it took to keep practicing and playing without risk. Then a lot of players got it during that infamous end of season melt down.
I don't know if any of that leadership criticism was really due to covid, but a lot of things were getting blamed on covid and the attitudes back then so I guess its possible.
I said I thought the trade was premature, and Wentz should have been allowed to come back the next season with a better supporting cast of receivers, but the FO pulled the plug on that pretty quickly.
I also thought the move from Wentz to Ryan in about a week was one of Ballard's actual genius maneuvers, but we see how that went.
If that was the case, Wentz wouldn’t have flamed out again for the Commanders. No, Wentz had one good year early in his career and was over rated and over paid since.
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1 hour ago, VikingsFanInChennai said:
I guess the Seahawks Draft is over already ...
Are you happy with the pick
OR
you wanna change from the list of available players?
I’m good.
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Man my memory is terrible these days, I forgot all about this.
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7 hours ago, NewColtsFan said:
Josh Downs says hello!
Jury is still out there, I like Downs, a lot, I’m hoping he’ll be more consistent in his sophomore year with hopefully better QB play
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7 minutes ago, wig said:
There's no value. The big 3 are gone by 9 and then there's a huge cluster of talent. Value doesn't come back until at very least the mid 20s
Fair enough. But I think they need explosiveness on Offense. Whether that’s TE or WR, we need impact weapons. 2nd and 3rd round WRs haven’t really been impactful for us outside of Pittman. I’d like to take a shot high on WR. But I also don’t want a super reach. So I guess for me, depends on who’s on the board at 15
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10 hours ago, wig said:
I can't think of a worse move in this draft than a WR at 15
Do tell us why…
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2 minutes ago, BlackTiger said:
We didnt need anything from them to make a deal. A team moved up to number one in that draft and we were in better position than them to do it.
And what was given up was stupidly high. Ballard even said last year in his post draft that he did talk to the Bears about 1 but decided they liked the spot at 4 so they chose to stay put. Panthers now are paying a heavy price for that blunder last year.
. I guess in a way he did quit if you want to be blunt about it.
It’s officially over: Luck says he will never return.
in Colts Football
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No no I have never played in the nfl.
as for saying it to his face, maybe, maybe not. I’m not the type to have much of a filter. It’d honestly depend on my mood at the time haha.
that said, chicken out comment may have been a bit harsh. My apologies
See above^
plus, I don’t hate Luck. I just call it as I see it