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1 minute ago, BProland85 said:
We’d be stupid to pay Chris Jones 23 million a year. No DT should make top 15 QB money.
That being said, I’m with you on him being my highest priority if he tested free agency. I’d be fine paying closer to $15 mil per season.
When I think about it were not going to be paying a QB for at least 4 more years unless we sign a FA. So why not start dividing that money up of the next four years. 23M is excessive you're right. I definitely exaggerated that number and that on me. Donald is at 22.5M and Mr. Jones isn't that good(yet). JJ Watt is at 16.7M and he only plays half seasons. I could see 18M to 20M for Mr. Jones if he hits the market. I have no problem with either one of those figures as long as the contract is five years or less. Maybe even front load the first two years a bit. To be on the safe side due to everyone we will be resigning.
^ this is why I'm not a GM. No self-control.
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1) Chris Jones
2) Anthony Costanzo
3) Yannick Ngakoue
4) Austin Hooper
5/6) Amari Cooper
5/6) Cory Littleton
7) Marcus Peters or Byron Jones
My wishlist in order. With that being said Chris Jones is in a tier of his own. He is the only one I'd be willing to break the bank for. I'm talking 5 years 23M a year. If we get any two of these players I would more than ecstatic.
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2 minutes ago, FirsTime said:
Touching base on everyone thoughts for resignings, the GOAT, and our coaching staff?
Would love to see everyone thoughts on all these questions. Sorry for bombarding just very curious especially during this point in the se
The last question my laptop submitted prematurely. The last option was going to be start from scratch.
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Touching base on everyone thoughts for resignings, the GOAT, and our coaching staff?
Would love to see everyone thoughts on all these questions. Sorry for bombarding just very curious especially during this point in the season!
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Touching base on everyone's quarterback thoughts, early draft needs, and high value free agents.
Would love to see where everyone's head is at during this trying time in the season. I have a couple more questions. I will most likely have a part 2 coming out shortly!
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I don't think our team overall is looking too horrible this year considering our loss to the Dolphins. On a side not that loss hurt my soul. It was very depressing.
In no particular order our needs right now:
An Elite - Edge/Pass Rusher or DT
A Stud - Edge/Pass Rusher or DT
Number 1 - WR
Depth 7- 9 - Oline
After the Season is over and free agency starts:
A consistent pass catching touchdown grabbing Eric Ebron, (A TE unless we resign both of them.)
A Stud LT or resign Castonzo(I'd prefer Castonzo)
A Starting or Backup SS
Most Importantly:
A DECISION - Continue with Jacoby. I like him, the team likes him, and the staff likes him. I would rate him for 13-18 for QB range. However, I personally think when he is in the whole entire team steps their game up. (offense/defense/special teams) I know I'm about to take some heat for that. OR Find a franchise QB. Maybe tank next season for Trevor Lawrence. Trade the house for whoever we could get. Trade up this year for someone. We have more than enough money and draft capital for almost all of these options. We won't be able to determine this till the season is over however.
I hope Jacoby has a MVP type second half of the season and takes us a couple rounds deep in the playoffs. Ballard put together a pretty solid team around him except for WRs, which we have the most horrible luck with.
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Next Week:
Colts at Steelers Colts W
Texans at Jaguars Jaguars W (Jags got a chance at home)
Titans at Panthers Panthers W
Not looking too bad for us as long as Steelers don't beat up on us like they have been the past few seasons.
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Just going to throw this out there. Next off season there is a good chance were going to have over 100mil to play with. I'm not saying blow it all by any means. I know were going to have a lot of our own to extend. However, I wouldn't be upset if we signed a top free agent or two. I know it's early but I'm going to throw out some names for giggles...
Chris Jones
Amari Cooper
AJ Green
Yannick Ngakoue
Leonard Williams
Jadeveon Clowney
Arik Armstead
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On 10/17/2019 at 7:52 PM, EastStreet said:
Hooper is ATL's leading pass catcher right now. I don't see them letting him leave without a fight. He's been very cheap for them, and I wouldn't be surprised if they got an extension done this year.
Atlanta has got to cut a lot of players in order to resign/extend him. They have negative money to play with next year.
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12 hours ago, MikeCurtis said:
Nice effort, I like most of the picks, but YUTER.... (Sheeze, who names their kid Yuter) May go top 20.
I think we need a DT ASAP in the next draft
I agree with the DT I'm praying one of the studs makes it to FA. If we can't pull any in FA I would move DT to one pick in the first two rounds. That name Yuter is very unique!
12 hours ago, EastStreet said:Draft
23: R1P23 DL JAVON KINLAW SOUTH CAROLINA
35: R2P3 QB JORDAN LOVE UTAH STATE
55: R2P23 OT CALVIN THROCKMORTON OREGON
87: R3P23 LB TROY DYE OREGON
129: R4P23 S J.R. REED GEORGIA
166: R5P22 G NICK HARRIS WASHINGTON
201: R6P23 CB ESSANG BASSEY WAKE FOREST
203: R6P25 WR MICHAEL PITTMAN JR. USC
236: R7P23 CB KINDLE VILDOR GEORGIA SOUTHERN
As far as FA is concerned with our own players
-TE: I'm not signing both Ebron and Doyle to big contracts. I'd pick one. Even with Ebron's drops, he still has more yards and TDs with the same amount of targets as Doyle. I'd probably resign Ebron and MAC, and let Doyle go unless he's will to sign a very friendly contract.
-WR: We'll have a decision to make with Funch depending on how well he does when he comes back. Both Pascal and Rogers are FAs, and I'd definitely try to upgrade at least one. Position wise, I think Rogers is more flexible, so I'd likely keep him if any. Really hoping Fountain comes back strong. Love what we were seeing from him.
-DE: Sheard? I just don't know. We need an upgrade at DE. Stinks that Turay is losing time due to injury. Regardless, I think I'd resign Sheard if it's a team friendly deal.
I picked Mo Ali-Cox and Doyle to resign. Ima let Ebron walk. Then I got Austin Hooper in FA from Atlanta.
I think for the D-line we need to push the draft or sign whatever stud makes it to FA.
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I know this is way to early but killing some time
Resign:
Anthony Castonzo - 3 years
Jack Doyle - 2 years
Clayton Geathers - 1 year
Joe Haeg - 4 years
Mo Ali-cox - 4 years
Zach Pascal - 1 years
Free Agents: ( I know most wont make it to free agency but just playing around)
A kicker - 3 years
AJ Green - 2 years - We're hopefully gonna get a functioning receiver besides TY from somewhere this off-season. We've had horrible luck with receivers we have the money lets swing for the fences. He should most likely have a year or two left in the tank. Just front load the contract for when the worst happens. Probably the most realistic of the good recievers to hit free agency in my opinion.
Austin Hooper - 4 years Falcons have no money next year. They gotta make cuts and Hooper is having a fantastic season, and has always had consistent hands. Not as many TDs as Ebron, but he moves the chains.
Chris Jones(lol(Mahomes' contract is coming up and maybe Houston will recruit him))/Jordan Phillips/Arik Armstead/Vernon Butler/A'Shawn Robinson/Leonard Williams/Maliek Collins/ - 4 years(lock one of them up) Take your pick, We need to upgrade our "NT". We just need a big, mean, nasty dude who wants to eat blockers.
Draft: Fanspeak Rounds 1-4
R1P23: Ceedee Lamb WR Oklahoma - We're hopefully gonna get a functioning receiver besides TY from somewhere this off-season
R2P3: Yuter Gross-Matos Edge Penn State - can stop the run on the way to the QB
R2P23: Austin Jackson OT USC - I think he is about to start shooting up boards
R3P23: Lorenzo Neal DT Purdue - competition in the trenches
R4P23: Logan Stenburg G Kentucky - competition in the trenches
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If I would building from scratch:
QB - Russel Wilson
LT - Laramy Tunsil
Nickel - Kenny Moore
DE - Khalil Mack
DE (one on each side if has to be different position DT) - Myles Garrett/Aaron Donald
FS - Kevin Byard
C - Ryan Kelly
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I love Doyle but if Hentges is a better version. I'm going to get shot for saying this. Should we try to shop Doyle? If we can get enough for him. Honestly we missed Doyle after he went down for the first couple games but we figured it out shortly after. We did not perform poorly without Doyle. There may be some value there and we could save a roster spot this way.
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I would trade him only if...
1) Luck is a full go week one no pain anywhere.
2) If Kelly continues to play well.
3) After week 4.
4) we get a good enough offer for him or maybe package him with one of our seconds next year for a STUD D-lineman.
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Sanchez - resigned off by 1M total
Moore - resigned waiting on numbers
Rhodes - resigned missed that one.
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I know it's way to early, but I enjoy free agent predictions, re-signings, and mock draft almost as much as football season.
Who does everyone think were going to resign for the 2020 season. For how much total and how many years. Would love to see everyone TOO early predictions!!! Hopefully get a general consensus what are team will look like for the next few years.
Players set to be free agents for the 2020 Season:
Jacoby Brissett
Devin Funchess 3years/39M (I think he is going to ball out this season)
Chester Rogers
Anthony Costanzo - 2years/27M
Zach Pascal
Eric Ebron - 3years/22.5M (He will regress(I hope I'm wrong))
Jack Doyle
Mo Ali-Cox - 2year/2M
Ross Travis
Joe Haeg - 4years/14M
LeRaven Clark
Evan Boehm
Jabaal Sheard
Luke Rhodes
Kenny Moore - 5 years/42.5M (I think he will improve again and everything I read about him is positive (everyone loves him))
Clayton Geathers
Matthias Farley
Chris Milton
Grandpa Vinny 1year/3M (If he doesn't retire)
Rigoberto Sanchez 4years/8M
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I think he will resign some of our players but as of now with no one being resigned. This is how I have the position rankings. When they resign Ebron, Costanzo, Ali-Cox, Haeg, and Clark then the positions will change. As of now with no one being resigned TE is a clear cut number one unless everyone is happy with Billy Brown and Hale Hentges.
I have NT/DT in tier 2 and have it labeled we need a solid started. We will have Autry, Lewis, and Hunt all under contract. I dont think those positions need to be in Tier 1 which is labeled we need to rebuild the position, but an upgrade for those positions would be great.
Honestly, the more I keep looking at NT the less value for that position I see. If you look at our D-line right now. We have one true NT Stewart (330 lbs) After that we have five line man 260-290 lbs (Autry, Lewis, Ward, Hunt, and Lewis). Then we have Turay (220). Then from 250-260 (sheard, Houston, Green.)
For the edge, I think we need to start looking to find two building blocks; possibly rebuild the position. Back up the brinks truck for a young stud Edge player. Sheard will be a FA. Houston is getting up there in age. That leaves Turay a second round second year player who had four sacks and fifteen total tackles last year one. It also leaves Green a fourth round rookie. Lewis is more of a DT to me they may transition him outside more if injuries occur, but I think they are looking to replace Autry with him.
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I know it's really early but, if anyone wants to get a head start on looking at next years draft prospects or free agents. This is my positional needs ranking from most needed to least needed at this time. Tier 1 we need to rebuild the position. Tier 2 we need solid starters. Tier 3 Depth. Tier 4 not needed at all.
Tier 1:
TE - Everyone is a free agent.
LT - Castonzo, Clark, and Haeg are all free agents. Hopefully at least resign Castonzo and Haeg will be resigned if not all three.
DE - Sheard is a FA. We will have Houston, Turay, Green, and a couple roster bubble guys. We will need two solid young starters.
K - Vinny is getting old he may have another who knows
P - Rigo is RFA probably will be resigned
Tier 2:
CB - Moore will be a FA. We still have RYS, Desir, and Wilson but retaining Moore is a must in my opinion.
SS - Willis isn't proven yet and Geathers is a FA.
WR - We will need a taller wide receiver still in my opinion(maybe not). Funchess will be a FA. We still have Hilton 5'9", Campbell 6' , and Cain 6'2"
NT - An upgrade here would be awesome
Tier 3:
DT - depth/upgrade
QB - Need a backup or to retain Brissett
C - Depth
RT - Depth
G - Depth
Tier 4:
RB - 4th string
MLB
SAM
WLB
FS
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I think Sweat would have been a no brainier if he didn't have health concerns or character issues, but he did. I think Banogu will fits our scheme better. We also don't have their 2020 second round pick. The 2020 pick could end up being a better edge defender than both of them, or maybe even the next Dallas Clark, Dwight Freeney, or Tarik Glenn. You never know!
The 26th pick is worth 700 points. The 49th pick is worth 410 points. 291 points or better would make the trade benefit us. In the second round of 2020 if the Redskins get the 61st (29th pick in the second round(292 points)) pick or lower we win the trade mathematically. I would say our chances are pretty solid.
If they get the 35th pick or so like I think they will. Then the 49th pick and 35th pick add up to the 17th pick. We will win this trade unless the Redskins are super bowl bound somehow.
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I know I'm getting ahead of myself. I just want to bring this up and see what conversations it generates.
Ballard is doing a fantastic job for the long term.
Just kind of a side note. Putting it on paper for myself to see.
3/5 of the predicted depth chart will be returning already.
7/11(TE/TE/LT/(WR2 maybe)) Offensive Starters returning. 10/11(slotCB) Defensive starters returning. No special teams returning.
Sitting on 59M THIS year to extend players such as Kenny Moore(24), Anthony Cosanzo(31), Jack Doyle(29), Eric Ebron(26), Mo Ali-Cox(25), Jabaal Sheard(30), Rigaberto Sanchez(24), Devin Funchess(25), and Adam Vinetieri(46), Joe Haeg(26), and etc...
I added Odum and Muhammad to this one because they are under contract for 2020/2021 season.
For the 2020/2021 season as of now these are all of the players that will be under contract from the predicted depth chart I did.
QB - Luck
RB - Mack, Hines, Wilkens
WR - Hilton, Cain,
TE - 86
LT - 86
LG - Nelson
C - Kelly
RG - Glowinski
RT - Smith
TE - 86
WR - Campbell,
DE - Houston, Muhammad*
DT - Autry, Lewis
NT - Hunt, Stewart
DE - Turay
SAM - Banogu, Adams
MLB - Walker, Okereke
WLB - Leonard, Speed
CB - Desir, Wilson
FS - Hooker, Odum*
SS - Willis
CB(slot) - 86
CB - Ya-Sin, Tell
K - 86
P - 86
LS - 86
In conclusion we are getting a very very strong core of guys for the long term to build around. The correct way to rebuild in my opinion is getting closer to being finished. It seems Ballard may need to figure out how to maintain the rebuild and keep all of our core guys. The money is going to evaporate rather quickly resigning our own guys.
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The back end gets tricky. There is a lot more talent this year than last year.
I think Ward, Lewis, and Autry are all kinda interchangeable so I wanted to get one of them as a backup DE so they could get some more reps. I think we are going to see a lot of different combos on the D-line. for instance I would be happy with any of these Autry/Ward/Hunt/Sheard Houston/Autry/Ward/Turay Ward/Lewis/Autry/Houston Banogu/Ward/Stewart/Sheard.
Odum, Ross, and Mohammed could make the squad. We are going to be cutting some good players in my opinion unfortunately.
WR wise in order I think it'll be Hilton/Funchess/Campbell/Cain/Pascal/Rogers
Everyone else feel free to make one. I would love to see them to compare please!
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5 hours ago, Chloe6124 said:
I think the culture was established last year.
I agree however, there will always be new names and faces it needs to be maintained every year. And if Suh comes in too early there could be a small chance something could be thrown off balance. So, lets make sure our rookies and new free agents understand how we do things with all the right influences in place first.
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I would give myself a red F. I did horrible. I can honestly say Paris Campbell is the only person I got right out of the tenish I've done on here and other forums combined. The spot wasn't even right on that note.
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I would love to see where everyone's head is at for the 53 man depth chart for week one. I know it's early just for fun too see what everyone is thinking while the draft is still fresh. Don't worry about the practice squad unless you want too.
QB - Luck, Brissett
RB - Mack, Hines, Wilkens
WR - Hilton, Campbell*, Pascal
TE - Doyle, Ali-Cox
LT - Costanzo, Clark
LG - Nelson, Patterson*
C - Kelly, Boehm
RG - Glowinski, Haeg
RT - Smith, Barton*
TE - Ebron, Hentges*
WR - Funchess, Cain, Rogers
DE - Houston, Ward
DT - Autry, Lewis, Thompson*
NT - Hunt, Stewart
DE - Sheard, Turay
SAM - Banogu*, Adams
MLB - Walker, Okereke*
WLB - Leonard, Speed*
CB- Desir, Tell*
FS - Hooker, Farley,
SS - Geathers, Willis*, Kindred
CB(slot) - Moore
CB -Ya Sin*, Wilson
K - Grandpa Vinny
P - Sanchez
LS - Rhodes
Format if you want to copy paste:
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WR -
TE -
LT -
LG -
C -
RG -
RT -
TE -
WR -
DE -
DT -
NT -
DE -
SAM -
MLB -
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Minimal Effort Mock Offseason
in NFL Draft, Scouting, and Free Agent Talk
Posted
Cap Space according to spotrac: 86M
Resign:
Anthony Castonzo - 2 years/ 30M
Clayton Geathers 1 year / 3M
Joe Haeg - 3 years/ 6M
La'Raven Clark - 1year/ 2M
Cap Space: 64M
Free Agents:
Jadaveon Clowney - 4 years/ 80M
DJ Reader 4 years/ 50M
Kendrick Bourne - 1year/ 3M
Jacob Hollister - 2 years/ 8M
Cap Space: 24.5M
On The Clock Mock Draft: This is how the Board fell
R1P13 - Javon Kinlaw
R2P2 - Jordon Love
R2P12 - Isaiah Wilson
R3P11 - Jalen Reagor
R4P16 - Antonio Gandy-Golden
R5P14 - AJ Green
R6P14 - Kendall Coleman
R6P32 - Dalton Keene
R7P13 - A Kicker
Colts 2 Deep
QB - Brissett, Love
RB - Mack, Hines
WR1 - Hilton, Bourne
WR2 - Reagor, Gandy-Golden
TE1 - Doyle, Ali-Cox
TE2 - Holister, Keene
LT - Castonzo, Wilson
LG - Nelson, Eldenkamp
C - Kelly, Patterson
RG - Glowinski, Haeg
RT - Smith, Clark
DE - Clowney, Turay
DT - Kinlaw, Autry
DT - Reader, Hunt
DE - Houston, Banagu/Muhammed
LB - Leonard, Speed
LB - Walker , Okereke
LB - Adams, Franklin
CB - Desir, Wilson
CB - Moore, Green
S - Hooker, Odum
S - Willis, Geathers
CB - Ya-Sin, Tell
K - 7th Round Pick with massive watermelons
P - Sanchez