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57 minutes ago, Dobbinblitz said:
Regarding Worthy -4.21 Speed has to be accounted for by a defense whether the ball is coming his way or not. So does that potentially create more opportunities for other Colt offensive playmakers. I would say yes.
I am sure the Colts have taken note of the impact of Tank Dell 5'10 165ibs (709 yds) on the Texans offense in his rookie year. If it helps take advantage of AR's physical tools and unlocks part of the Colts offensive playbook I am all for it.
He is a quick twitch football player and not just a track guy. He is third all time in longhorn history with TD catches in 26 of 39 games, and has caught a pass in all 39 games.
I’m sure they also took note of Sneed throwing TY hill around like a rag doll in the playoffs.
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25 minutes ago, Superman said:
This is it, and that's how I saw Ballard's pushback -- he's always going to be small. So what do you do with that? Whether they were talking about Worthy or someone else, I don't think Ballard's point was that he needs to put on 10-12 pounds and he won't be able to. I think the point was you can't count on that, so judge his body as it is now.
As for Worthy, he's not much smaller than Josh Downs. At a certain point, small is small. If you draft a guy like that, you need to be comfortable with his size, not betting that he's going to get bigger.
I went back to last years comments about downs post draft. It was clear that Steichen preferred a variety of receiver types on the roster and they liked downs for bringing a different type/element.
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17 minutes ago, #12. said:
Dobbs doesn't strike me as being team president/GM material, and the fact that there has been little movement, little evolution in Ballard's approach in 8 years, tells me Dobbs is more of a yes man, a rubber stamp man. Other teams can see that. If Dobbs, or anyone, were actually challenging Ballard from time to time, you might see a change in approach occasionally.
It’s Dodds, not dobbs.
I’m don’t think he’s a yes man, by any means. He did challenge them last year on AR. Early and often. He said he wasn’t a fan at all. But he came along the more they scouted him and the more he watched him personally. He understood what their vision was and bought into the concept of AR. My guess is, probably after they landed Steichen. Might not have with a different coach to pair him with.
I think he’s not landed a gm job- because he’s a tough character. He’s not exactly the best behind a microphone. As a gm, I wonder if he would be difficult to work for because of his intensity. We can all disagree on Ballard as a general manager, but one thing that is common knowledge is that people do like working for and with him. He’s elevated a lot of people in the front office.
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1 hour ago, stitches said:
I was thinking a bit about what Ballard said in that clip from "Behind the Colts", about "he's not going to get much bigger". No idea if he was talking about Worthy... but if he is... he's right. Whether Worthy ends up playing at 165 or 176... this is still extremely small and light. Whether he's in the 1st percentile or 5th percentile of athlete's in weight in the league, this doesn't change the type of player and type of worries you would have about him with any significance. So... in a way, I kind of find that conversation a bit pointless. IMO the question should be - okay. he is small... and he will always be small. Can we work with that? And can we live with the risk of injury for that small of a player? And the answer can be no here... I'm not saying we necessarily need to take that risk.
what is interesting on that comment was how intense Ballard was in arguing with Jamie about it. He was convicted in his belief that he didn’t think he would get bigger. To where it was almost embarrassing to Jamie.
here’s my thought on that- it was for the camera… it’s a smokescreen. Chris Ballard has talked (multiple times) and this is a fact- ill see if I can find a link to a video where he talks about it, but I have seen it several times- he has talked about how guys naturally get bigger as they get older. Where it’s expected as they get into the league.
So my feeling on that comment is that it could very well be just a smoke screen. Like a, “cut the tape- sorry to embarrass you on film Jamie, good job selling it- I didn’t actually mean any of that.”
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2 minutes ago, richard pallo said:
I think I know who “he” is as well. I think it’s either Bowers or Nabors. Just guessing of course but what happens if that player is picked before 15. Then what? There is another course of action no one has brought up. We trade the pick to the 49er’s for Aiyuk. We have the cap space to absorb his 14m cap hit. He’s a star receiver who is one year younger than Pittman. There is no rookie learning curve to deal with. He would step in and produce immediately. Of course you’re not getting the rookie contract but the trade off is a proven veteran. Plan A is Nabors or Bowers. Plan B is Aiyuk. You still have all your remaining picks. If he wants to get explosive on offense Aiyuk would definitely do that. I wouldn’t rule it out.
I saw an article today with that scenario.could be on the table. He has a history of trading with them with that range of pick. Although I’m not sure I see it with the talent at receiver this draft. It just depends on how they view the rest of the class left. Especially in day 2.
I don’t like making predictions or hopes, but if Bowers is there, I kind of want to see them take him and double up on a receiver at 46. That gives a day 2 option at corner or safety at 81 and then using 117 and 151 as interior line and whatever else (coverage linebacker ideally) to round the top 150 out. If I were a betting man, I would put money on us not drafting a linebacker until late and potentially using those last two picks both on linebackers.
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2 minutes ago, w87r said:
I don't think it really means anything.
I just think it is a good troll job by Chris.
It was a great cliff hanger, they could've been talking about some one that would clearly be there at #15 BTJ, Kool-Aid or something.
Doesn't have to be a guy we are thinking about trading up for.
Like I said I just think it was a great troll job by Ballard to leave it out there like that.
Provokes conversations.
I would put money on us not trading up. So I wasn't really thinking that. I think they have their eyes on a certain player that might be there at 15, but not necessarily willing to trade up for because of the alternative options. -
34 minutes ago, Moe said:
I just don’t think trading back makes sense, with the amount of cash the colts have plus a rookie quarterback. At some point Chris Ballard has to change his game.
I agree. Unless it's to a range in the 1st round that they have equal ratings on multiple players, where they are confident they are getting one of them plus whatever compensation. That generally means whoever they have their eyes on in a separate tier is off the board.
If AR develops into a longterm franchise solution (the sooner the better,) then I see the next 3-5 drafts being incredibly important to bringing in foundation guys that step into the major leadership roles that the current ones will be retiring from (or moving on). Once that rookie contract is up, the first few years of a new massive deal requires a solid core in place. That means hitting on picks now and for the next several years.
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"I do think there is a shot he's there at 15..."
Well, that really narrows down folks. I'm pretty confident I know who "he" is. I'll let you know late Thursday night, alright?
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11 minutes ago, jvan1973 said:
I'm sure Ballard watches what is going to be aired. Zero chance anything is leaked
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7 minutes ago, Zoltan said:
Yeah, that's where I was going. If you consistently say "______ isn't enough" Yet you don't have a parameter which you would consider a success you can never think that person is successful. Frankly it's a sad way to think always living with disappointment.
There’s a lot of setting themselves up for disappointment on this forum. Those in the fire Ballard camp would be happy and excited for a few years and then back to reality, which is the “always living with disappointment” you speak of. I like reading this forum around draft time for the quality discussion it brings in possibilities but there is a lot of people already setting themselves up to be disappointed. “If a or b players are at 15, we HAVE to take them.” And when we don’t? Cue the anti-Ballard sentiment and alarm bells on the colts.com forum.-
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2 minutes ago, ShuteAt168 said:
I am fired up to sit down and watch the draft with my son this week! (I realize this doesn’t add much to the discussion but it seems there is a lot of excitement and anticipation this year.)
Enjoy. Hope my boy wants to do that in the near future. I’ve watched the draft alone since I was a kid…-
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45 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:
I am happy with Ballard bringing back most of our players, we have some good players and it is good chemistry wise, but we still lack a huge playmaker and a really good CB.
it’s fair. I just don’t know that I buy the cornerback debate. Yosh uses the chiefs for argument, and I understand it. But what we are attempting to do is what the chiefs had success with. Developing corners and being willing to walk when they hit big. I think it’s likely we see a day 2 corner this draft, but I will be shocked if we take Mitchell or Arnold, even if they are at 15.
I don’t try and predict much, or more expect much I guess- because I don’t like to build it up that much for my own sake. I wasn’t expecting AR drafted last season, so I was pleasantly surprised. couldn’t believe it actually. I think there is a number of things that can happen that I would be satisfied with Thursday/friday.
14 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:It seems like with Ballard it has a Mike Tomlin type of feel. Tomlin knows as long as he can keep the Steelers at least average they won't fire him. He and the owner really get along. Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game since the 2016 season - let that sink in. Ballard and Irsay get along very well and for the most part in the Ballard era we have been average at worse and not a bad team other than Ballard's 1st year (2017 - Luck was injured so I don't blame Ballard for that) and in (2022). I think by drafting AR, that bought Ballard at least 2 more years because we really won't know how great AR can be for at least 2 more years, unless he just has a surprising breakout season in 2024. If AR pans out, then Ballard deserves to stay but AR bought him more time is the way I see it.
It’s a good analogy here. I think Ballard was given the green light to a new plan with a build on a drafted qb. But more than that, he was given the green light to lead a new coach search and get it right finally. I don’t see his seat being hot this year, and maybe not even next. as long as the team competes and AR’s development with Steichen is obvious, then he’s not going anywhere. That’s my perspective. Could be entirely wrong. But I think a lot of folks are setting themselves up to be further disappointed. Ballard looks to have been given some grace for 6 seasons and a reset with a new direction that started with Irsay firing Frank- allowing Ballard to work through the coach/qb process, leading to hiring Shane and drafting AR. What we saw this offseason was a continuation of the some of the good parts of the first 7 years of Ballard’s drafting/roster building. No doubt the expectations are high for everyone now. I just don’t think there is a timetable on his seat in the executive office…
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6 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:
I am still trying to figure out how trading this year's 15th, next year's 1st round pick and even a 2nd round pick next year is trading away our future to move up into the top 10 this year? It's giving up 2 picks next season. Giving up your future would be like trading away 2 1st round picks = next year and in 2026 and 2 2nd round picks for example - that would be too much.
People complain over and over that we never win anything, and we are average but yet the same people don't want Ballard to take any chances to get better.
I think it’s too much.
but I’m not in the camp of complaining about Ballard’s process either.
Just now, Zoltan said:Still waiting @Moosejawcolt don’t know why you keep dodging.
what would you consider an acceptable win percentage?
90%… that’s an A right?
😂
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1 minute ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:
Nah, I have came to my senses, I would rather be like you and just stay average and go 9-8 every year, never win anything. Never take any chances to improve our team by moving up in the draft, not getting AR any huge playmakers to help him out, and hear you and half the forum complain about our roster and why we went 9-8 again. That's the ticket
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32 minutes ago, csmopar said:
I’m one of Ballards biggest supporters on here but I can say that I see where the theory Ballard focuses or prioritizes RAS scores or athleticism originates from. It does at times appear that way on the surface. Especially when he’s taken guys that are or at the top of the charts in RAS scores the last few years.
now I don’t think that is the only thing he focuses on. But I do think there is a lot more weight given to that category vs the rest of the league.
They definitely value metrics. There’s a clip of him in one of the with the next pick series that he clearly says when it comes down to a few players, always bet on the metrics.
I always took it by that clip that when they stack their board, and they have several players relatively equal on it, they are always going to go with the guy with better measurables. Its easy to trash him for certain picks, but most on here seem to have the inability to step back and look at some of the picks that should have panned out for us but had bad injury luck. His very first pick here certainly did. He had a promising pass rusher in Turay that never recovered from a freak injury broken leg. Lewis (while still here) had a major knee injury right as he was peaking. Campbell had plenty of promise and is considered a bust, but it’s all because of injuries. Blackmon could have been a legit safety (and he still is very good) but his biggest knock is injuries. Even Carson Wentz (dare I even go down the path of defending him…) had injuries he was dealing with. Shaq Leonard was the best defensive player we’ve had in years, maybe ever at linebacker. Early retirement because of injuries. Our franchise qb. Early retirement because of injuries.
Our franchise has had some really bad luck (no pun intended) with injuries at some of our key draft picks and guys that should have been (and should still be) game changers. Even khari Willis was a great player and would have changed the discussion on safety play. Retired abruptly to go into ministry.
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3 minutes ago, Stephen said:
Downs breaks his models to. Seems like he gets better players when he gets those that can play instead of just focusing on ras
I think Steichen and Wayne had a lot of input on Downs. He was also a 8.99 RAS, even with really poor size on that rating. So he makes up for it in other ways.
and if you think he “just focuses on RAS,” I really don’t know what to tell you. That’s an interesting perspective…
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9 minutes ago, GoColts8818 said:
Does it matter where he got him? People praised Polian all the time for finding undrafted guys, the most notable being Jeff Saturday, and yet some how it’s a strike against Ballard. I am sorry, and maybe this isn’t your point, but when people go but Ballard didn’t draft this guy it sounds like trying to find a technicality to avoid having to give Ballard credit for acquiring a good player.
it is. Im convinced we could watch this team win a superbowl in the next few years, and the same people will discredit him. Hell, one poster said he wouldn’t be satisfied if it came at a technicality (aka- a year with injured qbs)… Like what? -
2 minutes ago, Stephen said:
Kenny moore was claimed off waivers after patriots cut him
obviously. But he specifically broke his mold on what he looks for in corners, because of what they saw in Kenny. And he’s talked at length about it. -
53 minutes ago, Yoshinator said:
They let him go because they paid Chris Jones instead. They also have Trent McDuffie. Their scouting department has proven they can draft corners. They have won 3 SBs with Mahomes (and made 4), I'm pretty sure they can trade a player away instead of paying him from time to time. Veach has earned that trust among the fanbase.
If I were a Chiefs fan, I would be extremely happy right now. Best QB in the league. won 3 SBs and made 4 with Mahomes. A great GM that builds through the draft and FA. An elite defense.
Those numbers were average for Mahomes standards yes. Normally he's much better than that. If we had those numbers on the Colts, we'd probably make the playoffs every year. We don't though. That's Ballard's fault since Luck's retirement. You and a lot of others take for granted that a new GM usually doesn't have an elite QB to start his tenure. Ballard did, that was a luxury. He had a large head thinking all he had to do was build through the draft around Andrew Luck. When Luck retired, Ballard was exposed. He didn't even know the proper way to get a QB. He was trying to do it through FA and trades when the vast majority of the time teams develop their franchise QBs through the draft.
Ballard built through the draft, except for the QB. How ironic is that?
8 years in, we are still hoping we hit on the QB. Maybe AR is the guy, as the division is harder, as the AFC has numerous elite QBs, as the NFL passes us by. "If we had average QB play like that these last 7 years". Where has the standards gone of being a fan? We should be regularly making the playoffs and competing for a SB 8 years in Ballards tenure. Instead, we are hoping the QB hits still at this point and we can fix the secondary on the team.
Give me a break. This team is run by a scout that's a wannabe GM who stubbornly refuses to change his ways. The only reason we're mediocre is because he's actually good at scouting. Unfortunately, as a GM, he has no idea how to compete with 31 other GMs who are actually qualified to be GMs.
Exhausting. That’s what you are…You refer to Ballard’s work like he’s playing Madden, when that’s actually the only qualification you have to offer input on a career executive in the national football league. It’s laughable. At best. And exhausting.
he can’t compete with 31 other GM’s? What are you talking about?
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4 hours ago, Yoshinator said:
I'm very open-minded when I get proven wrong. Ballard hasn't proven me wrong at all. His methods suck. Sorry. He's a scout that GMs like a 13-year-old Madden player. You can't build through the draft without using FA and trades in real life. Then he thinks the secondary isn't important when the Chiefs proved otherwise last year by having two elite CBs that helped carried them to another SB title when Mahomes was average.
You can't teach an old dog new tricks apparently.
you keep referring to the chiefs. But what the chiefs did was very similar to what he’s tried and trying to do. They drafted a late first corner (not very different from early 2nd- which is what he did last year and prior with ya sin) and the chiefs got sneed in the 4th… and guess what? They let him go!
I can’t imagine you as a chiefs fan with this mentality. Would you be royally p’d off right now because they let sneed walk? Don’t you think that may have something to do with Ballard not aggressively pursuing him?
“Mahomes was average.” Yeah, I didn’t see an average qb winning his third Super Bowl. That may just be me. 4k and 27 tuddy’s last year is average? Man… if we had just had average qb play like that these last 7 years, you wouldn’t be saying Ballard’s methods suck, because we would have accomplished quite a bit…
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6 hours ago, DynaMike said:
True but that's a bit different as he was an FA, not a draft pick. K. Moore originally was a rookie UDFA with the Patriots.
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15 minutes ago, Stephen said:
The reason is Ballard has been drafting cb based on their length and athletic potential instead of how well they played in college. Sometimes you have to forgo ras scores and just get a guy who can play.
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9 minutes ago, Yoshinator said:
I agree he doesn't want to spend much on the cornerback position. I don't agree his hands are tied by ownership. He spent roughly close for an extension on Buckner what it would have cost to extend Sneed. It saved us a draft pick or two and CB is better this year in the draft than DT, so maybe it's a good move in that respect.
I don't doubt Ballard doesn't want to spend much at the CB position. Unfortunately, being a zone team as you said, Ballard probably won't draft a CB high. I've been pushing the narrative that Ballard will draft an EDGE like Latu in the 1st round as Paye and Dayo are FAs after next year and Ballard loves the trenches. I just dislike stubborn people that hold on to their beliefs when they are outdated and have been proven wrong.
Sneed may like Nashville better than Indy, however, unlike Hunter, there was nothing leaked that he went to the Titans because of location. It seems to me that was because Ballard wasn't willing to pay what the Titans were to extend the contract in guaranteed money. I honestly think that's all it was.
Spending and focusing on the defensive line in a qb driven league is outdated and stubborn? Buckner trade was worth it. They couldn’t have found anyone like him, and he was available and willing to come here/be a focal point. Regarding Sneed, I’m not saying that’s why, I’m simply suggesting it could be a possibility. I think he’s in Tennessee because they are the only one who put an offer for him… I just don’t think we were going to do it. I think we reached out and possibly worked through some early negotiation with the chiefs, but when it came to it, backed out at what he was looking for.11 minutes ago, Yoshinator said:I really think Ballard will go after a CB on day 2 like Cam Hart. He has all the measurables Ballard loves. He'll be our version of JuJu Brents from last year.
Agreed. There could be a number that fit that mold.
having long 6 foot 3 corners on the outsides would be something…
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12 minutes ago, Yoshinator said:
You would have an argument if it wasn't the Titans. He didn't get traded to the Bills or Eagles who have elite QBs. He got traded to the Titans, who are a worse team than us. So that is highly unlikely. You are just grasping for straws to defend Ballard in why he is cheap and risk-averse. This is an 8 year pattern. He didn't just become GM. If Sneed didn't want to go to Indy, that would have been leaked by now. Ballard didn't want to pay the guaranteed money. That makes a lot more sense.
I would prefer Nashville over Indianapolis... And I live here. My comment had zero to do with team quality. Although Brian Callahan will have that team playing competitive football. I don't think it's highly unlikely at all.
I'm not grasping at straws. These are legit questions. Are his hands tied by ownership? Is that why he was hired, with a plan to be conservative/draft and development focused... and subsequently held on through a coaching change?
I don't doubt he didn't want to pay the guaranteed money. I think i've specifically stated I don't think we were ever that serious in the pursuit of Sneed, contrary to what Destin Adams posted incorrectly on twitter. Ballard's comments regarding our current young core of cornerbacks, backs that belief. I don't think he cares to spend much money on the cornerback position at all...
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im not arguing necessarily against him. But I don’t like him over several players that could/should be available at 15.