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  1. 25 minutes ago, CanuckColtsFan said:

    If 4 QB's are taken before the Colts pick it's pretty likely that a highly rated player will be available. It means 8 non QB positions were picked. I think there will be some great options.

    I obviously am in favor of drafting a QB. But if it doesnt pan out that way, so be it. I wouldnt be disappointed if we took one of those non QB guys. I am kind of in favor of moving up though. I know many aren't. But to me, about the only positions I'd move up for is QB and DE. Maaaaaybe a stud LT or CB.

  2. 10 hours ago, CanuckColtsFan said:

    If 4 QB's are gone by pick 13 there is going to be some blue chip talent available. We could get a steal of a pick and go with a guy like Rivers at QB.  Then draft a later round QB and hope he develops.

    You say that like it's a guarantee. There are no guarantees in the draft. You take the BPA and its possible 4 QBs are in the top 10 BPA.

  3. 15 minutes ago, EastStreet said:

    I've read a bunch of combine reviews, ESPN and NFL.com this AM, and most were chattering about end of 1st to mid 2nd. I do think all that is an overreaction, but I don't see him going later now than the 3rd. The size and speed combo is just too much to ignore. Add in that he likely aced the interviews and seen as a high character guy (perhaps rare for WRs lol), and it's just likely someone falls in love. It may be enough to make people forget he's from Canada lol... 

    Lol https://m.imgur.com/gallery/Lq197Jv

     

    I dont know why it wont paste the picture

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  4. 3 minutes ago, EastStreet said:

    I think you are spot on that big guys just don't look as fast, even if they are. Boykin was the same. I don't see day 3. I don't think he gets out of day 2 (R2 and 3). If he's a day 3 guy, I hope we're all over him. IMO he'd be better than Funch year 1.

    You really think so, eh?  Well if we take him Day 2, I do hope you're right.  

  5. 24 minutes ago, EastStreet said:

     

    He just proved he's got more than build up speed. His 10 yard split was elite (1.52) as well as his 20 yard split (See RAS). Guys of his size aren't typically great laterally, but I'd bet he can polish up his breaks and be just fine (separation). His typical routes didn't do him a lot of favors to design separation. 

     

     

     

    Without pads, yeah.  I mean maybe it's just that on the screen (talking about game film now) he looks like it's building up speed because of his size.  Eyes can deceive you a bit.  It doesn't help that you can't see the whole route in those ESPN youtube film cutups.  Even so, I think he's got a pretty large uphill battle.  I think he's a Day 3 pick, tbh.

  6. 7 minutes ago, jvan1973 said:

    What move to TE?

    I just found this out the other day from @stitches.  He's been putting on weight since the senior bowl, likely because teams have told him to move to TE.  That would make sense why he came in at 6'4" 238 lbs.  And his lateral quickness and buildup speed is likely a pretty big reason why they told him that IMO.  I don't think he will be getting any separation at the next level except by using his body to create it.

  7. 17 hours ago, Coffeedrinker said:

    There is no reason for team sources to lie to reps from Walter Football, especially since they know Walter football will not reveal their sources.

    Sure they do!  It's not about saying something with a name attached to it, it's about throwing shade on a player in hopes they drop in the draft.  They don't lie because they don't want their name attached to it (which they wouldn't care anyway by the way), it's about misinformation.  Nothing to do about anonymity.  This time of year didn't become known as lying season because anonymous sources told the truth...  

     

    We're just going to have to agree to disagree.  I think they have every reason to lie. 

  8. I mean at the end of the day, what's this mean?  Absolutely nothing.  You can't really trust anything anyone says and yet everyone relies on tidbits from the scouts, player personnel and GMs.  You can glean stuff about what they say about how someone does well or not well on the field and things like that.  Maybe they say he's a day 1 or 2 pick.  All that is probably reliable or at least half true. 

     

    "Overrated" is one of those unquantifiable words that means nothing.   Overrated compared to what?  Most people would look at projections and see, maybe he's mocked at #15 on average, and they hear overrated, and now all the sudden he's dropped down 50 spots on half the mock drafts.  Maybe others just drop him 10-20 spots.  That's a very subjective moving target to apply it in a meaningful way.

     

    If you like the guy, you get him when its reasonable to do so given all the work you've done ordering your draft board.

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  9. 1 hour ago, NewColtsFan said:

    Each of those players is a potential first round pick.  So having first round players going at 13, 34, 44 and 75 doesn’t make that a “good mock”. It makes it an unrealistic mock.

    Meh, Kmet is not a first round guy.  He's barely a second round guy.  Not a stong blocker and nothing about his passing game that stands out.  He's a late day 2 player at best.

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  10. On 2/20/2020 at 10:26 AM, OffensivelyPC said:

    I don't think his comments at all mean he's going to pull an Eli.  He was talking about his leverage in the context of the pre-draft process.  Don't fall for the narrative people.  Being happy with "what ever team drafts him" means just that.  That is the opposite of Eli, who was UNHAPPY with the team that drafted him (again, any AFC team that drafted him would have led to the same result).  Eli was one of the most unusual situations in draft history.  About as unusual as the Colts and Elway.  

     

    It's stupid to me that what is driving this narrative is the simple fact that (a) the bengals suck from owner to practice squad and (b) the fact that Burrow hasn't verbatim said, "I'd play for the bengals."  Of course it crosses no one's mind that maybe, just maybe the kid smart enough to know that trades occur on draft day and humble enough to know that the bengals might pass on him.  No, that just doesn't sell as a story...

     

    This whole thing is just so stupid.

    Glad we can put this to rest. https://apnews.com/f155fa8e0541d32016cc1f703537d38e

     

    It's a curse being right all the time. :sarcasm:

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  11. 2 hours ago, stitches said:

     

    Yeah, I have to be very upfront here and say that my understanding of QBs progression reads is not anywhere close to the level of people who have played the position(like O'Sullivan) or coaches, etc. I guess it's coached in a specific way for different route concepts and he probably recognizes the route concepts and knows what the QB is doing(or supposed to be doing) in those situations and that's why he's pin pointing situations in which it looks like he's doing the reads. 

     

    Unfortunately, I'm a very late fan of football and never grew up playing so my understanding suffers a lot in regards to the details of schemes and Xs and Os. This is part of the reason I enjoy  following analysts that are very in on those things and explain Xs and Os and schematics well(Greg Cosell, O'Sullivan, etc). 

    I played since a child and up into college (walk-on at IU for a year as a TE and then done).  I understood routes and all that, tempo and the like, but not necessarily from a QB perspective (for instance, I didn't understand what throwing receivers open meant or looked like until several years after I played). 

     

    I think this is one of those things that you just don't come to know until you spent so much time working with people in the industry.  Even then, it takes an intimate knowledge of the plays called and responsibilities of each player on a give ndown to really break down accurately.  Something us common folk will never really understand since we don't have the time or expertise.  

  12. I actually just watched this.  Love when guys do these films.  Half the time I dont' even listen to them and I just watch the play for myself.  Though I came to a lot of similar conclusions.  He is hesitant on his throws to the sideline a lot of times.  Like you can visually see him being tempted to throw it and he just doesn't.  I think Sullivan is right on the money when he says that ball flip caused the incompletion in the dirt on the swing pass.

     

    My biggest worry is, I don't know how you know a passer is going through multiple progressions or, it's coaches taking the progressions out of your hands and predetermining your look one, look two throw.  But I get the sense that Herbert's reads are very rigid.  I don't know how to explain it.  There was a play or two where I felt it was like that near touch down at the end, no swing pass, then throw screen.  I guess what I'm saying is, is Herbert reading the field like he would in the NFL, or just looking and throwing where the coach tells him.  I don't know how to decipher that, but I get the sense that he doesn't scan the field like he would be in the NFL.

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  13. 10 minutes ago, chad72 said:

    When Quenton Nelson was drafted, he said the Colts never showed they were explicitly interested in him, if I remember right.

     

    Our pick is Justin Herbert. :) 

    This is always the thing I have in the back of my mind.  It looks like we're interested and that makes me think it's a classic smoke screen/smoke signal/ smoke stack.

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  14. 1 minute ago, stitches said:

    Rumors are he's moving to TE. That's why he's gained about 10 pounds since the Senior Bowl. Teams probably suggested that to him at the Senior Bowl and it seems like he's open to it. 

    Ah, that makes more sense, didn't know that.  I feel like WR to TE conversions aren't very successful.  Maybe I don't know of a successful one or its not coming to mind.  But I feel like you've got a better shot if you played basketball and tried out in the NFL as a TE than you would being a WR and becoming a TE.  Not sure why that is.  Has to be blocking, but it's not like all the successful NFL TEs with little to no collegiate football experience would pick up all the nuances of blocking playing basketball or playing wideout.  That is, they have a similar learning curve, IMO.  

     

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