tydontlie
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Terrence Newman top better than Vontae? NO WAY. Wow that is a Terrible list.
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Depends. Is Trufant there?
In the third?? not a chance.
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I don't like the Hunter, Mathieu or Klein picks
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I'd rather have Jesse Williams than Jenkins.
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When I read that scouts are saying that he's a better fit in a 4-3 system as an outside linebacker than he is in a 3-4 as an inside linebacker, then I take that into account.
I'm not saying he isn't a good football player. I'm sure he is.
But I don't think he fits into Pagano's system.
Just my view of things....
I'm just curious as to why you feel that way. What about his game do you think won't lead him to succed in Pagano's def? Is it just bc scouts think he will be better suited for a 4-3 rather than 3-4?
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Brown was listed throughout the season at 228 pounds. He showed up at the combine at 241.
Here's his bio from NFL.com
I don't think he's not a fit in our system. Most scouts see him playing the weak side outside LB in a 4-3.
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2013/profiles/arthur-brown?id=2539245
Some write-ups on Brown that I read during the season wondered if he'd have to play safety in the NFL.
lol yea those write ups that you read are ludicrous. He DEFINITELY will be a LB in the nfl. And you still haven't told me why he doesn't fit our system..bc we all know him being "too small" is not the issue.
Just remember everyone called Ray Lewis too small an look how that turned out...and he played in a 3-4 defense just saying.
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Why would you want Arthur Brown? He's one of the smallest inside linebackers in the draft?
And he's the wrong fit for the scheme we run.... I don't understand the interest in him.....
Try watching him play before you say someone isn't a fit. As far as size goes he is almost identical size to Jerrell Freeman so I guess he's too small to huh?
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Ill take Arthur Brown
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Deandre Hopkins
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You have done nothing to prove he is a good player other then "Zomgggg trust our GM. No way he can be wrong". Meanwhile I have provided many articles and quotes on why he was overpaid and is not a good player based on his on field production.
Like I said and will continue to say stats don't always tell how impactful a persons play is, but you wouldn't know that. So just stop crying and complaining about a guy you have never seen play.
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I was thinking the same thing..haven't heard from him once yet.
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Sigh apparently you still do not understand. Reading comprehension must not be your thing because profootballfocus ranked him as THE WORST OLB in 2011 and 2012. He was judged on a per snap basis so when he does try to go after the QB he fails at it. And ya lets ignore it blatantly said too he was the worst against the run in 2011. It is amazing how someone ca ignore facts but more power to you. Apparently you care how I feel or you would ave stopped responding a long time ago.
LOL so he's really the worst against the run AND the pass now..okay now i see why we signed him good points. Just for the record you responded to one of my posts so keep crying like you have been it won't get you far.
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How does Perry getting hurt validate Walden at all? Hint: It doesnt. Not like the packers were in a bidding war with us to keep him. If walden was capable of starter then he would have started over Perry at the beginning of the season not when he got hurt. Just because you start does not make you a good player just look at our offensive line last year for proof of that.
Here are some key quotes
"In 2012, Walden's PFF season grade of minus-25.5 as a pass rusher ranked dead-last in the league, and in 2011, his minus-17.6 grade in run defense ranked 28th among 28 players at the position."
"Walden entered the 2011 as the starting outside linebacker opposite Clay Matthews. He started 15 games, recorded three sacks and entered unrestricted free agency.
There wasn't much of a market for Walden on the free-agent front, so the Packers were able to bring him back on a one-year contract worth $700,000 with no guaranteed money, according to ESPN Wisconsin. And after another three-sack season in 2012, Walden received a pay raise of over $15 million from the Colts."
Is it possible the Packers were not using him as a pure pass rush? Your looking too much into stats when they don't tell the full story. If we really wanted a pure pass rusher with not much to offer in the run game we could have signed Cliff Avril for that matter or even kept Freeney. We got a olb who can drop in coverage and play solid against the run and pass..so go cry Grigs a river bc no one cares how you feel about it he's a Colt now.
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The guy is clearly not a big sacker.
He plays opposite Mathews, I wonder who he beat for two sacks against Detroit?
He may not be a "big sacker" but he is a good all around player (solid against run and pass). We saw what happened to our last "one-deminsional" pass rusher..he's a free agent now bc he is to much of a liablity in the run game.
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Better than I remember him playing. Then why did the packers want to replace him? He is a backup.
Sack- ends play and loss of yards
pressure- nothing guaranteed
No it is not as good. Right as bright as you thinking a guy who didn't much playing time could possibly be good. Probably why they drafted Nick Perry to start over the guy. They clearly did not view him as a starter.
Yea, how did that turn out smart guy? Also, you don't know what the Packers thought of Walden bc he sure did end up starting games last season. And maybe they thought Nick Perry was the BPA at that point in the draft and went with that approach..that doesnt mean they thought Walden wasn't capable of being a starter. Once again that's your opinion AGAIN.
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There is your answer. A sack is just as good as a pressure? I'm sorry did you really just say that? That is like saying a pass deflection is just as good as a pick. So in 6 years he did not get meaningful playing time? One might think that is cause he sucks.
"That is like saying a pass deflection is just as good as a pick." LOL sorry i didn't know a sack was a turnover. He sucks? you don't sound to bright with that comment,but i forgot you know more than Grigs and the entire Colts scouting staff. And fyi qb pressures can lead to picks genius.
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its not all about sacks, Walden had 26.5 QB pressures so he has his share of rushing capability
"Last year, he filled in after outside linebacker Nick Perry went out for the season with a knee injury. He ended up playing 70-percent of the team’s defensive snaps, with 26.5 quarterback pressures."
Thank you. I agree 100%
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Really? I guess I must be making up the fact he has 9 career sacks in 6 years and I most definently must be making up that he had only 3 sacks last year when he had Clay Matthews eating up 2 blockers on most plays. Yup definitely rumors. If you want to look even deeper into last year these are the teams he managed to get a sack against
Chicago .5
Stl .5
Detroit- 2
Not to mention he could not get a sack against the colts and did not record a sack the final 6 games of the season. Excuse me for not being overly optimistic.
Out of those 6 years in the NFL how many of them did he really get any meaningful playing time? Question how many games have you seen him play in? I know for a fact not many. Sacks don't always tell the story, anyone who watches football knows that. So, you pointed out he didn't get that any sacks against us right.. well let me ask you another question how many QB pressures did he have against us? (which are just as good as a sack IMO)
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Walden just can not get to the QB. I don't care how good he is against the run people say I want my 3-4 OLB getting to the QB. Mathis won't demand the triple teams Clay Matthews got which worries me even more about walden. Not to mention it doesnt hurt to have many guys who can rush the passer just look at the giants.
Unfortunately it looks like Cooper/Warmack will be gone by the time our pick comes now
You don't know what Walden can do bc you have never watched him play (besides highlights), so you don't know whats he capable of. You just going by the rumors like everyone else. I seriously doubt Grigs would give 16 mil to a olb that can't rush the passer.
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I reallyy doubt we draft a olb with our first pick..and i don't know how some of you guys are not sold on Erik Walden when you really haven't even seen him play yet. Stop going by the rumors you hear and give the guy a chance!
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My think is also the teams ahead of us that will also take WRs Allen may be gone and Austin will be plus Austin is another slot guy we have Ty I personally do want a WR at 24 so it won't bother me our biggest needs are now WR and OG and you can get good guards deeper in the draft
Agreed. After FA we now have the ability to go BPA, so I don't care what position we draft as long as he's the best player on the board and isn't a QB, TE or Tackle (I believe in AC).
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His hands aren't horrible and route running can improve behind Reggie and you can always improve strength he can work out with Landry lol but seriously he can get stronger all of the flaws you see can get better
It's very possible they can..the question that remains to be seen is will they..?? that's why I would perfer a more proven player in the draft, and not really a player that needs developing with our 24th pick. I personally, think keenan allen, cordarrelle patterson, deandre hopkins, and tavon austin would all be much more solid additions at 24..Assuming we don't trade back or even go wr with this pick. And for the record I'm not locked in about going wr in the first anyways.
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Naw he's past his prime..might need to hang em up.
who will ultimately become the best wr and cb from the draft
in NFL Draft, Scouting, and Free Agent Talk
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Keenan Allen and Dee Millner