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  1. 44 points
    I will start by saying there are some great people on youtube. They split the games so you can see every play by a QB in an entire game in 8-15 minutes. And this past weekend my wife got sick, so as I was hanging around to take care of her, I watched every game available of the four QBs. I did not review Burrow, Tua, Herbert or Hurts, the first 3 because I think they will be gone by pick 13 and Hurts because I think the idea that he has a future as an NFL Qb is media hype because he seems like a hard working, likeable kid but he just does not seem like a QB to me. I will say upfront, some strengths or weaknesses cannot be seen on game film, such as leadership, work ethic, ability and desire to improve, etc. Anthony Gordon. Positives - He has great field vision. People talk about he's a product of the system, etc, etc. And it's true, in another system he would not have thrown for 5500+ yards and 48 TDs. On the flip side though, there are not many QBs would have have thrown for 5500+ yards and 48 TDs in Leach's system especially not 1st year starters. I believe he would have been successful in many other systems as well. Yes his receivers were wide open but when you watch multiple games those receivers were not always the first read (like some other Qbs I reviewed), he scans the field quickly, makes a decision and pulls the trigger. Which leads me to his next positive his release. The beauty of a quick release is that is does not give defenders time to react. Tied in with his field vision is he seems to not only see the entire field very quickly but he processes that information quickly. Many times I saw him scan the field then come back to his 1st read again, he was able to spot him instantly and throw the ball. Lastly, his anticipation is top notch. because of his ability to see the field and process the information, not only does he do an excellent job of anticipating where his receivers will be but also he does a great job of anticipating what the defenders will do, so because of that he is able to throw his receivers open on many occasions or put the ball where only his receiver can make a play on it. One last point on his receivers being wide open, for Love people like to blame the talent of his receivers... Gordon did not have any real talented receivers/TEs/Rbs either. they were open a lot because of the offensive system and because Gordon threw them open. Weaknesses - Has not footwork... at all. The coaches did him a disservice by not working on his throwing fundamentals. I don't mean his throwing motion but how to drop back and move while keeping the proper foot spacing and balance so the body can be in the correct position to throw. Mobility is lacking. He can move around in the pocket ok but that is about it, he seems to trip over his own feet when he tries to scramble. No feel in the pocket. He has good peripheral vision so he move when he sees the rush but he doesn't sense with the rush is coming. That was evident on several occasions when he was sacked standing flat footed. He makes some boneheaded decisions but whether they are bone headed decisions or lack of experience decisions I do not know. Overall, I think Gordon is an excellent pro prospect but he is at least a year away from being ready to play an NFL game and probably two years from being counted on as a starter. And that is assuming that A QB coach can work with him and he takes to coaching and is able to apply what he learns. That, combined with his 1 year as a starter in a college system that QBs have not transitioned well in the NFL, his slight stature at 6'2 199lbs, Gordon will probably not be drafted before the 5th round. Jacob Eason At first glance you wonder why Eason is not considered in the top with Burrow, Tua and Herbert but as you watch entire games it becomes obvious. Positives: IMO, Eason is the best QB in the draft at operating under center. I wish I would have kept stats but he looked incredible when operating under center... his drop backs were smooth and consistent, he scanned the field well while dropping back, he made a decision, planted his back foot and then had near perfect form in his throwing motion.... every time. His arm. Not just his arm strength but his throwing motion is nice and fluid and consistent, combined with his strong arm he can place the ball exactly where he wants, anywhere on the field, consistently. His mobility... yeas, I now a lot of people with disagree but he is a fluid, natural runner who can pick up yards with his legs when he needs to but he only has adequate speed. Plus he's a big, strong QB who will plow into the line to pick up a first down on 3rd/4th and short. negatives: He does not do a good job of handling pressure. His first move when the rush was coming was to spin backwards and roll left. In the first couple of games of the season that worked but it was obvious teams learned that was his move and really shut it down in the later games in the season. Since that seemed to be his only move to combat the rush, he will not get away with that in the NFL. And, even when he did escape the rush he was not good throwing while running to his left. His decision making. Several times you could see he had two receivers at two levels, the closer receiver would be very open, the receiver at the deeper level would be well covered, rather than throwing to the short receiver for a good gain, he would try to force the ball into the deeper receiver with very mixed results. Overall: I think Eason will be the 4th QB taken in the draft after Burrow, Tua (assuming he passes his physical) and Herbert. Eason, though reminds me a lot of Jeff George... all the tools and ability in the world it just seems something is lacking between the ears. I will be surprised if he stays in the NFL past his rookie contract. Jordan Love: This one is going to get me the most hate mail because a lot of people on this forum have bought the hype that he is Patrick Mahomes esqe and his poor play is a product of his team and coaches. And it is somewhat true but not totally. Positives: He is a smooth athlete with a good combination of touch and and power and accuracy on a lot of his throws. He is at his best when he's rolling to his right and throwing on the run. He seems to have good pocket awareness and can feel the rush around him even if he doesn't see it. Does not seem to panic under pressure. Has some escapability in him to extend plays when the pass protection breaks down. He seemed to have good control of the offense. Seems to be very competitive negatives: He cannot throw left. When you watch Love throw ahead or to the right, he has pretty good form (he relies on his arm too much but overall his form is fine) but when he throws to his his mechanics break down and his throw accuracy and velocity drop considerably. He is not good at presnap reads. Several of his interceptions were not because his receivers couldn't get open or because they had not separation, they were because his misread things at the LOS and threw the ball immediately after the snap. The rest of his INTs (not counting a couple that were in the desperation time towards the end of the game) were because he has a blind spot to underneath coverage. He stares down his receiver and the underneath coverage slides over and he is unaware of it. I'm not basing this on just the Wake Forest game but if you want to see multiple examples of this watch that game. He had was appears to be an impressive stat line with over 400 yards and 3 TDs but he also threw 3 INTs (2 of them were all because of Love, not the receivers, 1 was with 17 seconds left in the game and they were trailing) and could have easily had 2 more INTs if the defenders had not dropped the easy INTs. Overall, I do want to point out that even though the negative paragraph is longer than the positive paragraph, if you read closely, I do list more positives than negatives. Love definitely has some tools to work with but he does not work to be ready for the NFL. And personally I think his ceiling is about a Dak Prescott level.. someone who, if he's with a talented team will have some impressive wins but won't be the type of QB to win games when everything is on the line and he needs to outplay and out think the defense. It's funny after watching these games films Friday night and Saturday morning, I think watched the XFL on Saturday. So I'm watching the Houston Roughnecks and out trots, Indy's own practice squad king, P Walker as the starting QB, so I'm watching him play and he's doing well but I keep think that he reminds me of someone... then it hit me, Love plays just like Walker, same pocket movement, same throwing motion/style (Love does not pat the ball like Walker which is why Love may be able to make a career in the NFL), same arm strength, same running style and oddly enough same break down of mechanics when throwing left. Personally I think Love is a 3rd round talent that will be drafted higher and may sneak into the 1st round when team trades up to pick him towards the end of the round. Jake Fromm: Positives: Since I saw a lot of the positives from Fromm that have been discussed... accuracy, touch, anticipation on his throws, understanding of the offense, head for the game, etc. I won't go into great detail about that. Some of the positives I saw that don't seem to get talked about much. His competitiveness, to me this really popped out in watching his games and it's one of his best attributes. One of the ways I think this came through was on 3rd and long (6 yards or greater). All the Qbs above on 3rd and long, the majority of their throws were little 2 or 3 yard dump passes hoping the receiver makes a play. The majority of Fromm's passes on 3rd and long were near or past the sticks. That is someone that wants to keep the drive going not just playing it safe or being a game manager. His does not have scrambling ability like Wilson or Prescott or Watson, but he chooses to run at smart times and has enough speed to make positive yards and first downs when the team needs it. He can make accurate throws from different arm angles. Negatives: His arm strength is not elite but I would classify it is above average and I think it could move into the good category with proper mechanics. He does not consistently engage his hips and core when throwing, he's more of a step and lean thrower. But he made multiple 20-25 yard outs throws from the far hash both to the left and right side while fitting the ball into a tight window. He has enough arm strength for the NFL. The only other real negative I see in his game is if one rusher is pressing the pocket he can handle it well, if two are pressuring the pocket, he doesn't seem to know what to do and he is not the type to run around until he figures it out. Overall: I think Fromm is the most NFL ready QB in this group of 4, and IMO, even more NFL ready than Tue. People say he has a limited ceiling but I don't believe that to be the case (remember people said that about both Andrew Luck and Peyton Manning) but the ceiling is determined by how well he can read and recall defenses which is how all QBs who have long careers in the NFL keep improving and playing well year after year after year. and from all reports that is one of Fromm's greatest strengths. Since he is not ready to be a day one starter because of his throwing mechanics and lack of an elite arm, he could slip to the 2nd round but I could see either the Raiders drafting him at 19 or the Patriots drafting him at 23 if he's available. Which means, if the Colts want him, they will probably have to draft him at 13. 2 Side notes: If you want to see a game to convince yourself that Fromm is an NFL QB, watch the Georgia Notre Dame game, Georgia won that game because of Fromm and his competitiveness and toughness. Also, if you want to see another potential Colts pick watch the Georgia South Carolina game and you will see why Kinlaw would be a great 3T in the Colts D.
  2. 37 points
    I was given tickets to the game yesterday as a very nice Birthday gift. I went into Lucas feeling pretty confident that we would easily beat this this team, and that the Trap game stuff I read on here was just crazy talk. After the first Field goal miss and as our offense began to struggle against a very good Broncos Defense, I started to get nervous. When they scored after halftime I really started to get a bad feeling. The last 3-4 games I’ve been to, they’ve lost, really was starting to get a complex, lol. By the middle of the fourth, some fans were starting to lose faith and shuffle out to beat traffic. The thought never crossed my mind to leave early, but I was having a hard time staying positive and cheering for the team and making noise while the Broncos offense was on the field. Then I looked over at my 9 yr old son. He never lost faith, was screaming off the top of his lungs and saying, “WIN FOR DADDY, WIN FOR DADDY,” lol! That was awesome and got me fired up, then Brissett shrugs off Miller and makes the amazing throw to TY!!! Not going to lie, I shut my eyes when Vinny was kicking the eventual game winner, so glad he redeemed himself with that kick!!!! What a emotional roller coaster of a birthday gift, but thanks Colts!!!!!! Moral of my rant, NEVER LOSE FAITH, at least during a close game!!!!! GO COLTS!!!!
  3. 36 points
    I've seen some stats tossed around about "building" a team that can compete for a Super Bowl. I think some of what has been tossed out is "convenient" cherry picking, so decided to finish a little drill down that I started a few months ago. Anyway, just the facts below. In short, I've looked at Super Bowl teams since 2000, and listed their unit and total ranks. I've also added QBR rank. Below is a summary of some key takeaways and conclusions. Below that, is an easy summary of total and unit tiers, and farther below is the raw data capsules of each team. I've used tiers rather than averages as I think the distribution if far more educational than a simple average (which will hide/blend outliers). I also don't discriminate in W or L in the SB, only that they made it to the SB. Warning: The factual information contained below might be too much for some. If you think stats are unimportant, please ignore this thread. Key Takeaways in general on SB contender data: 1. Having a QB with a Tier 1 QBR is by far the biggest commonality of Super Bowl contenders. 30 of 38 teams had Tier 1 (top 10) QBRs. QBR is far more important than passing YPG, rushing YPG, or any D total or unit stat. 2. Balance in O and D is best, but O is significantly more important. 33 of 38 teams where above the median in Total O, while only 24 of 38 were above the median in Total D. 3. Passing O vs Rushing O was very similar, but Passing O had a slight edge in importance. 4. Passing D vs Rushing D was similar compared to the median, but T1 Rushing Ds were far more prevelant. Colts Current Rank and Contender Comparison: 1. Zero teams have played in a SB with our current Total O and Pass O rank 2. Only 2 of 38 (5%) teams have played in a SB with our current QBR rank or lower. Those QBs were Peyton and Big Ben. 3. Our Rush O is as good or equal to 63% of SB contenders 4. Our Total D is as good or equal to 39% of SB contenders and T2 5. Our Pass D is as good or equal to 24% of SB contenders and T4 6. Our Run D is as good as or equal to 53% of SB contenders and T1 Conclusion / Recommendation 1. QB is by far the most important thing to address (draft or FA) based on our current rank in QBR and Passing 0. 2. Passing D is the second biggest need although almost a quarter of SB teams had the same or worse Tier rank. DT please. 3. Total D while slightly below the SB contender median, was still T2 (current year) 3, Our Rush O and Rush D are both Tier 1, and well within SB contender performance (50+%). Tier Definition Tier 1: 1-10 Good/Great Tier 2: 11-16 AMA (Above Median / Average) Tier 3: 17-22 BMA (Below Median / Average) Tier 4: 23-32 Bad/Horrible Distribution of 38 SB team rankings from 2000-2018 Total O/Pass O/Rush O/Total D/Pass D/Rush D/ QBR T1: 21 / 19 / 18 / 22 / 11 / 23 / 30 T2: 12 / 9 / 7 / 2 / 12 / 4 / 2 T3: 4 / 5 / 5 / 8 / 6 / 8 / 4 T4: 1 / 5 / 8 / 6 / 9 / 3 / 2 Colts Current Rank / Tier / # SB Contenders equal to or below / % of SB teams equal to or worse Total O: 25th / T4 / 0 / 0% Pass O: 30th / T4 / 0 / 0% Rush O: 7th / T1 / 24 / 63% Total D: 16th / T2 / 15 / 39% Pass D: 23rd / T4 / 9 / 24% Rush D: 7th / T1 / 20 / 53% QBR: 20th / T3 / 2 / 5% Team specific data. TO=Total Offense, PO=Pass Offense, RO=Rush Offense, TD=Total Defense, PD=Pass Defense, RD=Rush Offense TO, PO, RO, TD, PD, and RD are all team/unit ranks 1-32. QBR is an individual rank (1-32) with the exception of two years when a team had 2 QBs play 6+ games each (in which case QBR is averaged). 2018W (NE) TO 5 (PO 8/RO 5), TD 21 (PD 22/RD 11), QBR 9 2018L (LAR) TO 2 (PO 5/RO 3), TD 19 (PD 14/RD 23), QBR 10 2017W (PH) TO 7 (PO 13/RO 3), TD 4 (PD 17/RD 1), QBR 1 2017L (NE) TO 1 (PO 2/RO 10), TD 29 (PD 30/RD 20), QBR 3 2016W (NE ) TO 4 (PO 4/RO 7), TD 8 (PD 12/RD 4), QBR 2 2016L (ATL) TO 2 (PO 3/RO 5), TD 25 (PD 28/RD 17), QBR 1 2015W (DEN) TO 16 (PO 14/RO 17), TD 1 (PD 1/RD 3), QBR 25 2015L (CAR) TO 11 (PO 24/RO 2), TD 6 (PD 11/RD 4), QBR 9 2014W (NE) TO 11 (PO 9/RO 18), TD 13 (PD 17/RD 9), QBR 3 2014L (SEA) TO 9 (PO 27/RO 1), TD 1 (PD 1/RD 3), QBR 6 2013W (SEA) TO 17 (PO 1/RO 4), TD 1 (PD 1/RD 8), QBR 7 2013L (DEN) TO 1 (PO 26/RO 15), TD 19 (PD 27/RD 7), QBR 2 2012W (BAL) TO 16 (PO 15/RO 11), TD 17 (PD 17/RD 20), QBR 18 2012L (SF) TO 11 (PO 23/RO 4), TD 3 (PD 4/RD 4), QBR 8* 2011W (NYG) TO 8 (PO 5/RO 32), TD 27 (PD 29/RD 19), QBR 9 2011L (NE) TO 2 (PO 2/RO 20), TD 31 (PD 31/RD 17), QBR 3 2010W (GB) TO 9 (PO 5/RO 24), TD 5 (PD 5/RD 18), QBR 6 2010L (PIT) TO 14 (PO 14/RO 11), TD 2 (PD 12/RD 1), QBR 7 2009W (NO) TO 1 (PO 2/RO 6), TD 25 (PD 26/RD 21), QBR 1 2009L (IN) TO 9 (PO 4/RO 32), TD 18 (PD 14/RD 24), QBR 2 2008W (PIT) TO 22 (PO 17/RO 23), TD 1 (PD 1/RD 2), QBR 26 2008L (AZ) TO 4 (PO 2/RO 32), TD 19 (PD 22/RD 16), QBR 3 2007W (NYG) TO 16 (PO 21/RO 4), TD 7 (PD 11/RD 8), QBR 18 2007L (NE) TO 1 (PO 1/RO 13), TD 4 (PD 6/RD 10), QBR 1 2006W (IN) TO 3 (PO 2/RO 18), TD 21 (PD 2/RD 32), QBR 1 2006L (CHI) TO 15 (PO 14/RO 15), TD 5 (PD 11/RD 6), QBR 19 2005W (PIT) TO 15 (PO 24/RO 5), TD 4 (PD 16/RD 3), QB-R 3 2005L (SEA) TO 2 (PO 13/RO 3), TD 17 (PD 25/RD 5), QB-R 4 2004W (NE) TO 7 (PO 11/RO 7), TD 9 (PD 17/RD 6), QB-R 9 2004L (PH) TO 9 (PO 7/RO 24), TD 10 (PD 12/RD 16), QB-R 4 2003W (NE) TO 17 (PO 9/RO 27), TD 7 (PD 15/RD 4), QB-R 10 2003L (CAR) TO 16 (PO 18/RO 7), TD 8 (PD 9/RD 11), QB-R 14 2002W (TB) TO 24 (PO 15/RO 27), TD 1 (PD 1/RD 6), QB-R 3 2002L (OAK) TO 1 (PO 1/RO 18), TD 11 (PD 23/RD 3), QB-R 2 2001W (NE) TO 19 (PO 22/RO 13), TD 24 (PD 24/RD 19), QB-R 6 2001L (LAR) TO 1 (PO 1/RO 5), TD 3 (PD 11/RD 3), QB-R 1 2000W (BAL) TO 16 (PO 22/RO 5), TD 2 (PD 8/RD 1), QB-R 20 2000L (NYG) TO 13 (PO 13/RO 11), TD 5 (PD 16/RD 2), QB-R 12 Note, "QB Rating" was used in place of QBR for years prior to 2006 (ESPN created QBR in advance of the 2006 season) Note2, I did those over a few sittings, and eyeballs going cross towards the end.... so, let me know if you find any errors or have any questions.
  4. 35 points
    It has been said here recently that Ballard and Dodds have not drafted well and that they have failed to provide us fans a solid team from 1-63 on the roster. It is widely considered among NFL GM's and pundits that if you draft and develop 2-3 starters/contributors in every draft then you are doing well. This is not even getting into the rest of roster construction through savvy trades, shrewd free agent signings and good scouting on waiver wire pick-ups. 2017 NFL Draft (Drafting for a Lame Duck Coach) Starters: Hooker (Rated as 5th best Safety in NFL), Mack, Walker Contributors: Wilson (Spot Starter/Nickel/Dime), Stewart (Starting this year) Out of the NFL: None Not on the Roster: Basham and Hairston with Jets, Banner with Steelers Impact Player: Hooker (Rated as 5th best Safety in NFL after 2018 Season) and Mack is on the verge of being that true bellcow back UDFA's of Note: Kenny Moore II (CB - Rated Number 2 Nickelback in NFL after 2018 season), Rigoberto Sanchez 1/15 - Malik Hooker, FS. Ohio State 2/46 - Quincy Wilson, CB, Florida 3/80 - Tarell Basham, OLB - Ohio University - With NY Jets 4/137 - Zach, Banner, OT, USC - With Pittsburgh Steelers 4/143 - Marlon Mack, RB, South Florida 4/144 - Grover Stewart, DT, Albany State 5/158 - Nate Hairston, CB, Temple - Traded to NY Jets for 2020 sixth-round pick 5/161 - Anthony Walker, LB, Northwestern Draft Maneuvering to acquire more talent thru the draft: 49ers receive: » 2017 fourth-round pick (No. 121): Joe Williams, RB, Utah Colts receive: » 2017 fourth-round pick (No. 143): Marlon Mack, RB, South Florida » 2017 fifth-round pick (No. 161): Anthony Walker Jr., LB, Northwestern Colts receive: » 2017 fourth-round pick (No. 137): Zach Banner, OT, USC Patriots receive: » 2017 sixth-round pick (No. 200): Traded to Titans » Dwayne Allen, TE (Cutting ties with 4.5 Million owed) 2018 NFL Draft (Drafting for his preferred 4-3 Defense and his preferred Offensive minded coach) Starters: Quenton Nelson, Darius Leonard, Braden Smith Contributors: All but Daurice Fountain so far (So 7 total) Out of the NFL: 0 Not on Roster: 0 Impact Player: Quenton Nelson (All-Pro), Darius Leonard (All-Pro) UDFA's of Note: George Odum, Mo Ali-Cox 1/6 - Quenton Nelson, OG, Notre Dame 2/36 - Darius Leonard, OLB, South Carolina State 2/37 - Braden Smith, OG, Auburn 2/52 - Kemoko Turay, DE, Rutgers 2/64 - Lewis, Tyquan, DE, Ohio State 4/104 - Nyheim Hines, RB, NC State 5/159 - Daurice Fountain, WR, UNI 6/169 - Jordan Wilkins, RB, Ole Miss 6/185 - Deon Cain, WR, Clemson 7/221 - Matthew Adams, LB, Houston 7/235 - Zaire Franklin, LB, Syracuse Draft Maneuvering to acquire more talent thru the draft: Jets receive: » 2018 first-round pick (No. 3) -- Sam Darnold, QB, USC Colts receive: » 2018 first-round pick (No. 6) -- Quenton Nelson, G, Notre Dame » 2018 second-round pick (No. 37) -- Braden Smith, G, Auburn » 2018 second-round pick (No. 49) -- traded to Philadelphia » 2019 second-round pick (No. 34) -- Rock Ya Sin, CB, Temple Eagles receive: » 2018 second-round pick (No. 49) -- Dallas Goedert, TE, South Dakota St. Colts receive: » 2018 second-round pick (No. 52) -- Kemoko Turay, DE, Rutgers » 2018 fifth-round pick (No. 169) -- Jordan Wilkins, RB, Mississippi Colts receive: » 2018 second-round pick (No. 64) -- Tyquan Lewis, DE, Ohio State Browns receive: » 2018 third-round pick (No. 67) -- Chad Thomas, DE, Miami » 2018 sixth-round pick (No. 178) -- traded to Patriots Colts receive: » 2018 sixth-round pick (No. 235) -- Zaire Franklin, LB, Syracuse Jets receive: » Henry Anderson, DE Raiders receive: » 2018 fifth-round pick (No. 140) -- Maurice Hurst, DT, Michigan Colts receive: » 2018 fifth-round pick (No. 159) -- Daurice Fountain, WR, Northern Iowa » 2018 sixth-round pick (No. 185) -- Deon Cain, WR, Clemson 2019 NFL Draft (Drafting for Depth): Keep in mind we are 5 games into these players first season as Rookies Starters: Rock Ya Sin, Khari Willis Contributors: Ben Banogu, Parris Campbell, Bobby Okereke, Marvell Tell, E.J. Speed ****(Green and Barton are on the PS & Patterson is IR'd) Out of the NFL: 0 Not on the Roster: 0 Impact Player: None UDFA's of Note: None 2/34 - Rock Ya Sin, CB, Temple 2/49 - Ben Banogu, DE, TCU 2/59 - Parris Campbell, WR, Ohio State 3/89 - Bobby Okereke, LB, Stanford 4/109 - Khari Willis, SS, Michigan State 5/144 - Marvell Tell III, DB, USC 5/164 - E.J. Speed, LB, Tarleton State 6/199 - Gerri Green, DE, Mississippi State 7/240 - Jackson Barton, OT, Utah 7/246 - Javon Patterson, C, Ole Miss Draft Maneuvering to acquire more talent thru the draft: Redskins receive: » 2019 first-round pick (No. 26; select Edge Montez Sweat) Colts receive: » 2019 second-round pick (No. 46; trade to Browns) » 2020 second-round pick Browns receive: » 2019 second-round pick (No. 46; select Greedy Williams) Colts receive: » 2019 second-round pick (No. 49; select LB Ben Banogu) » 2019 fifth-round pick (No. 144; select S Marvell Tell III) Colts receive: » 2019 fourth-round (No. 109; select S Khari Willis) Raiders receive: » 2019 fourth-round (No. 129; select CB Isaiah Johnson) » 2019 fourth-round (No. 135; trade to Atlanta) Eagles receive: » Hassan Ridgeway, DT Colts receive: » 2019 seventh-round (No. 246; select G Javon Patterson) 2020 NFL Draft (Ballard has added 2 extra picks and a conditional trade moving up draft spots in the 7th) 1 2 (From Washington) 2 3 4 5 6 (From N.Y. Jets) 6 7 Draft Maneuvering to acquire more talent thru the draft: Redskins receive: » 2019 first-round pick (No. 26; select Edge Montez Sweat) Colts receive: » 2019 second-round pick (No. 46; trade to Browns for No. 49) » 2019 second-round pick (No. 49; select DE Ben Banogu) » 2020 second-round pick Colts receive: » 2020 sixth-round pick Jets receive: » Nate Hairston Colts receive: » 2020 conditional 6th or 7th round pick Dolphins receive: » Evan Boehm Overall Draft Stats thru three drafts as Colts GM: Draft Picks: 29 Still With Team: 26 <-------- 90% still on the roster Out of the NFL: 0 <-------- This is huge for any GM On another Team: 3 Starters: 8 <-------- Averaging over 2.5 per draft (So far) Impact Players: 4.5 <-------- Hooker, Moore, Leonard, Nelson and I gave a half for Mack because he's becoming that bellcow back we needed Contributors: 14 IR or PS: 4 UDFA Starters: 2 UDFA Contributors: 2 For those that think his drafts have been unsuccessful, the stats play out differently at this point - and we're only 5 games into the 3rd Draft. If Brissett (which was a savvy trade in and of itself) can lead this team of mostly draft picks to a winning record this year then even the overall success of the team will spell out he has drafted well.
  5. 33 points
  6. 31 points
    When I see some of the garbage going on with AB, Jalen Ramsey, Zeke, etc. I’m just really glad the Colts emphasize character. No one is perfect and I can see a little diva in Ebron at times, but for the most part, the current team is a band of “team first” guys and I’ll take that anyday over guys primarily concerned about their “brand”. I heard Rick Venturi say the Colts are overemphasizing character and making the point that “you don’t have to game plan for character”, but character was a big reason the Colts won 9 out of 10. Character is what keeps guys from pointing fingers, when adversity comes. Give me TY over AB, Mack over Zeke and Desir over Ramsey. Humility + talent > arrogance + talent. Human beings are at their best when they become a part of something bigger than themselves, be it a marriage, band, family, church or team.
  7. 30 points
    Because we'd be 13-0 likely if we had Luck. I'm not a Ballard worshiper, but this isn't on him. He's upgraded or made solid attempts to upgrade every unit after inheriting what was mostly a dumpster fire in terms of depth and talent. Even the JB fan club knows this boils down to the change of QB. Not saying we don't need upgrades in several areas, but who here thinks we're not at least at 11-2 had Luck not left and playing for a 1 seed right now, even with all the injuries.
  8. 28 points
    I know this post will probably wind up getting folded in with another thread, but I was so wow'ed, that I had to share. I still have my 2016 Lindy's Draft Guide. Here is their evaluation of JB: Jacoby Brissett, NC State 6-4, 236 projected 4th round In Our View: Brissett sat out the 2013 season as a transfer from Florida and earned the starting job in '14, opening eyes with his performance against Florida State as NC State almost pulled the upset. He finished the 2014 season with 26 total touchdowns (23 passing, three rushing), 2,606 passing yards and only five interceptions. Set career-bests in 2015 with 237 completions and 2,662 passing yards, earning All-ACC honorable mention and a spot on the Senior Bowl roster. Brissett is well-built with physical traits for the next level with size, mobility and arm talent. He can make NFL throws, but is also slow to read and showed gun-shy tendencies as a downfield thrower -- was the king of dink-and-dunk passes and checkdowns inflated his completion percentage. Will get a chance as a backup but short of major improvement as a downfield passer that's his ceiling. Strengths: Built for the NFL with a filled-out frame. Has some Houdini to him with his mobility and physicality to brush off contact and keep plays alive. Natural body power in short-yardage situations (902 career rushing yards). Functional movement in the pocket and square to his target to deliver on the run. Strong arm to spin spirals and can execute the entire route tree. Understands touch, controlling his ball speed to add juice or trajectory. Experienced making decisions in NFL-style offense, anticipating windows and reading coverage. Tough and durable. Takes care of the ball with a career 45-to-15 touchdown-to-interception ratio. Weaknesses: Not confident as a downfield thrower; inconsistent with deep ball accuracy. Too comfortable throwing on the run or delivering with his momentum going backwards. Shaky platform and needs to set his base when given the time. Inconsistent footwork leads to inaccurate ball placement (59.5 percent career completion percentage). Low career interception numbers because he is too careful, not consistently pushing the ball downfield or fitting throws into tight windows. Not an explosive athlete and tends to be indecisive on non-designed runs. Doesn't understand how to use his eyes, leading defenders with late throws. Pressure disrupts his tempo and late to climb the pocket. Is there anything in there that isn't still true, 3 years later?
  9. 28 points
    Frankly, I can't wait to talk about this. Since Reich is already game planning, we can talk about it too. I know many of you are eager to turn the tide against the Pats. I understand. But my ghosts go way back. I want the Colts to get a W at Heinz Field more than any other place, against any other team. Jimmy struggled against them. So did Peyton. So did Luck. Pittsburgh Steelers lead series 24-6-0 Need I say more? Ok, I will. The Colts played them 25 times between 1950 and 2008. In those games, we scored more the 24 points.......2 times. How many times have we won in Pittsburgh in 69 years?.........................Twice. With all the mojo I can muster, Go Colts!!!!
  10. 27 points
    I wonder how much JB paid "The Blast" to publish this article...
  11. 27 points
    You gave us hope and you gave your all, yet your injuries made you see the other things that were important to you and your life moving forward. I always felt this was an option for him and can respect it. I appreciate what he gave us Colts fans and wish him a lifetime of happiness and joy.
  12. 26 points
    Disclaimer: This thread is being made in a lighthearted way. There will be some funny math involved. Don't take it too seriously. So I saw in another thread that someone said Andrew Luck was worth 5 wins. That got me thinking about how many wins per season you could rely on a QB for. Think back to when Peyton Manning missed 2011. The Colts went from a perennial 12-win team to a 2-win team. You could say Manning was worth 10 wins a season. The Colts went from a perennial 11-win team with (healthy) Luck to a 4-win team in 2017. You could say Luck was worth 7 wins a season. Our Colts QBs have carried some bad teams to good seasons. When Elway retired, the Broncos went from a perennial 13-win team to a 6-win team, so you could say Elway was worth 7 wins a season. Now when Brady missed 2008, the Pats went from a perennial 14-win team to an 11-win team... so is Tom Brady only worth 3 wins a season? Both of those teams were thought to be complete teams with good run-games and good defenses, so how was there such a dropoff for the Broncos, but barely any dropoff for the Pats? So my main point is this: having a QB like Elway or Luck that you can basically rely on for 7 wins is REALLY good, but having Manning, who we could basically rely on for 10 wins is as good as it gets. We will probably never see a QB like Manning ever again. He put this franchise on his shoulders and carried it to the top of the mountain, and for all his accolades, I'm not sure he gets enough credit for that.
  13. 26 points
    Baldy loves him so much he gets 2 breakdowns!
  14. 26 points
    It was an outstanding play that shows why Hooker is viewed as an elite talent. Not a perfect throw by Rivers, but it took Hooker flashing from out of the frame to snatch the ball away with one hand to stop a back-breaking TD. This is the type of play that you said he didn't make in 2018 (setting aside his injury recovery). He's a playmaker with insane range and excellent ball skills, and that play shows a sample of those traits. You're going out of your way to downplay how outstanding that pick was. By the way, I was at the game (humblebrag), sitting right behind that end zone (it was great for the pick and the Mack TD, not so great in OT). Hooker made an amazing play. I thought it was a sure TD, and then #29 comes out of nowhere, looking like a superhero. It was a very impressive play by any standard.
  15. 26 points
    This is my first time being on the forum since Andrew retired. It took me a long time to accept it and get past it, as I was basically heartbroken for a multitude of reasons. All the respect in the world to him, I'll miss him, and I wish him happiness and health in life above all. But, looking ahead to 2019, Jacoby's extension, etc... This may be kinda long because I haven't said much in a while. Before I get to my main topic of discussion, I'd like to reiterate some points that have been made by others here that I agree with. 1. The length and price of Jacoby's extension is perfect. Team takes care of him, but protects themselves and has a chance for that deal to be a major bargain. 2. This team is loaded and cannot and will not tank for a QB. 3. The fact that they extended Jacoby now vs after the season shows their belief in him isn't hyperbole, it wasn't just smoke to try to drum up a trade. It's real. 4. If Ballard and Reich believe in Jacoby, they have earned our trust up to this point, and therefore we need to trust their evaluation of him and put our faith in him as well. 5. My biggest point of emphasis...Ballard and Reich did the best they could with the Luck situation. Things moved quickly, they tried to handle it internally, they hoped Andrew would reconsider, but he didn't. Ballard is always as direct and honest with us as he can be. He obviously should never come out and say "Andrew is considering retirement" and putting everyone into a panic... he needed to let that process play out before he involved us. I trust him completely...and if anything, I feel absolutely terrible that this happened to him. But I know he will navigate us through it and we will win. But, onto my actual topic... While I do believe Jacoby is a very good QB, I think his extension actually tells us what they're thinking internally. "We trust you, but we don't know for sure what your ceiling is, so go out and prove it and then you'll be compensated." But what makes me excited about this is that, yes, this is an evaluation year for Jacoby, and the team could not be set up more perfectly to see how good he can actually be. The roster is loaded. Top 5 O-line, tons of weapons on offense, an offensive head coach with a high end scheme and playcalling, a top 12 defense with all the starters returning, along with big additions like Houston and Rock. There are zero excuses for Jacoby. In 2017 there were A LOT. Just traded to the team, new playbook, new teammates, new scheme, new terminology, terrible o-line, no weapons outside of TY and Doyle, beyond awful coaching and playcalling... I mean... literally everything that could go wrong did go wrong for Jacoby in that season. Yet we had 4th Quarter leads in 9 games. With a much much much worse roster. This year, he's had virtually every single starting rep all offseason, 2nd year in the system, and the team is better at every level. Regardless of how this season plays out (which I think we will be successful and still make the playoffs), we will have a definitive, black and white answer about our future at the QB position.
  16. 25 points
  17. 25 points
    The '5 Stages of Grief' has been upgraded. It now includes an additional stage. Wishful Thinking.
  18. 24 points
    I am utterly convinced you haven’t watched a single down of him. He has absolutely been dominant this year. That push might just have been the only pressure he has allowed this entire season. Not trying to be disrespectful, but Nelson is not at all the problem
  19. 24 points
    Hey, #12, I haven't logged into the ol' Colts forum in... a while. In fact, I think I stopped being a mod right after you got drafted and other than lurking I've made like six posts since. Life got busy, and honestly, being a mod during that down season before we drafted you took my love of the game away, so I get it. I cried twice over your retirement. Once because it's sad to see you go; after your return last year, I was hoping to selfishly get a few more amazing years. Growing up with a Colts team that struggled, I was lucky to get all those years with Peyton and then the years we had with you. I cried when Peyton left, too, even knowing we had you to take over. I'm a weepy fan. The second time I cried, though, was when our fans booed you. I'm not sure who those folks are or what they're all about, but that was heartless and reprehensible. I wish those of us who loved and appreciated what you did for the team and the city could somehow erase that moment. We can't, though, and that's the sad part of fandom. Everyone gets to do what they want to do as a fan. Even the jerks. Now I know you're probably never going to see this post; it was super rare for a player to read the board back when the community was much, much smaller. But if you happen upon this, thanks, Andrew. Thanks for coming to a team that was falling apart and losing a legend and stepping up. Thanks for the amazing run of games, for the gutsy playoff comebacks, for the cool moments like you randomly serving as a fan's best-man on the fly. And thank you for stepping away for the good of your life. I think fans sometimes don't get that. If you're hurt, and it's making your life miserable, you need to take care of you. I am glad you had the strength to look out for your future and not be burdened by all of us wanting the wins and maybe not thinking clearly about your safety and your well-being. People need to learn that those who entertain us don't owe us their comfort, their bodies, their lives. You were wise beyond your years to realize you don't owe our fans your happiness. The Colts Nation will miss you, but I know that most of us will remember you with a smile. And the ones who won't... well, we can't choose our family, right? I won't say it doesn't hurt to see you go, but you'll always be one of our finest.
  20. 24 points
    Some of you should be embarrassed by your responses. There is more to life than Football and Luck owes you nothing. He gave this franchise his best every chance he could and put this organization in positions it had no right to be in. I wish him the best, a happy life, and good health. Thanks, Andrew.
  21. 23 points
    there's been articles all over about it, not just on twitter. I know you guys aren't being "too" rough, but remember, some people come to this forum to get their Colts updates. Like me, I don't do Twitter. I don't live in Indy where there is always a radio station talking Colts football. I'm guessing Smoke was just using this forum for some info.
  22. 23 points
    You guys are not looking at this thru the right lenses.....Hoyer is to play the Hasselback role. He's not here to be a starter, he's here to be a mentor and IF he's called upon to play - manage a game. He's a second set of eyes, helps break down game tape, share his experiences both good and bad. Help with dissecting coverages in game in between drives, etc. But MOST NOTABLY he has served as the primary backup to Tom Brady for 5 seasons as well as absorbing info from Josh McDaniels and Bill Belichek on game planning..... That, my friends is what makes him a valuable commodity to the growth and development of Brissett and Kelly.
  23. 22 points
    Really happy for him! https://fox59.com/2020/02/01/edgerrin-james-voted-into-pro-football-hall-of-fame/
  24. 22 points
  25. 22 points
    The "Scary Truth" people always show up after a loss being unreasonable and forecasting doom and gloom.
  26. 22 points
  27. 22 points
    Next two games are against Houston and Titans. Win both, we're 8-4, and 5-0 in the division and 2-0 against HOU and Tenn. Houston has New England right after they play us. If they lose that game too that puts them at 6-6 and 2.5 back of us with just 4 games left. Colts have a huge opportunity to gain a stranglehold on the division. Great win today. I decided to stay off the forum for a week after the Dolphins loss because I ain't gonna lie, some of y'all can become quite insufferable when we lose
  28. 22 points
    First off, losses happen, it doesn’t mean we need to freak out. second, I have no idea why some of you are in complete freak out stage. 6 months ago and all thru the summer, we heard people clamoring about the first 4 games and how tough they were. With Luck, MOST people said they’d be thrilled to be 2-2 or best case, 3-1. Now, we’re without Luck, and suddenly 2-2 means blow it up, we’re done. Seriously folks, there’s gonna be ups and downs with a young team that’s missing several starters. Deep breathes
  29. 22 points
  30. 21 points
    Over the past few days, most of the forum talk I’ve seen mentioning Chris Ballard is saying that he makes bad picks and that he always trades down for second rounders that don’t do anything. I really don’t get it. We are just one draft removed from 2 All-Pro Rookies, both of which were acquired from him making a trade down. Just because not everyone hits one draft doesn’t make him suddenly incapable of making great selections and grabbing impact players. Even Rock Ya-Sin and Bobby Okereke from this class have made early huge impacts on the team, and still it seems that very few are still invested in the process. I’m honestly confused, and if someone could please enlighten me as to where all of this loss of faith is coming from, please tell me so I, and others like me, can understand!! Thanks, and let’s go smash this offseason!! Go Blue!
  31. 21 points
    Hmmm like maybe throwing the ball to open WRs? That sure would be noticeable
  32. 21 points
    Let's get off the cliff please. We can potentially have Brissett Hilton and Funchess back as early as this week and if the Ravens beat the Texans then we can get back on top of the division when we play the Texans next week, but first let's take it easy, handle the jaguars, and get back to what made this team formidable. And for the love of God, get a grip with all the gloom and Doom
  33. 21 points
  34. 21 points
    That final drive to ensure the win after the Falcons put it in question was just a thing of beauty. Used the pass game, used the run game, kept it short not because he had to but because it was the best way to win. Marched down the field using all our weapons. Our OL was battered an struggling but held up just enough to allow us to execute. Well done to Mr. Reich. That was a major strategic victory against a team that, while a bit mentally soft, is no joke to play against. They almost outplayed us, they gashed our D hard, but our HC had them out-thought and it didn't matter
  35. 20 points
    The same Marvin Lewis who coached for 15 seasons in Cincy and never won a playoff game, no thanks . Frank deserves to be here, this has just been a strange season.
  36. 20 points
    When teams avoid you, you have made an impact already, regardless of the impact on the stat sheet. Last night, Baker Mayfield made a conscious effort to avoid Minkah more often knowing his play making ability. I find a lot of folks picking on Malik Hooker here and he has the ability to make the same impact that Minkah does, and is on his way to doing so, IMO. Just like Minkah, he is impacted by QBs not looking his way and I wish people would make their assessment based on much more than the stat sheet for a player's impact. That is all I have to say!!!
  37. 20 points
    I was thinking about this. We could easily have 2 picks in a row. Their first pick in the 2nd round and our last pick in the 1st round
  38. 20 points
    And yes this is a yelling matter. It is amazing me some of the post and threads on this forum after a loss to the raiders. Its like most of you are completely pushing to the side how much of an impact our 3 star players have on this team. Darius leonard was the DROY of the year and you replacing him with a rookie who is just now really getting playing time, yea you are going to see a massive drop off at line backer. We really do not have another true FS on this team so yea we are really going to miss Hooker and you're going to see more yards thrown on us with essentially 2 SS on the field. On top of that there is a 4th round rookie taking the place of him. We also have another rookie playing CB, one of the hardest positions to learn and hes doing a good job but will continue to get picked on. So we have 3 rookies out there starting and 5 that are getting alot of playing time, if you factor in the fact the rest of the rotation pieces where only in their second years with limited snaps we have an incredibly young defense that are still trying to gel together. I dont understand why people think these rookies are just going to immediately be all pros. As far as the offense goes our best receiver not being there of course is going to affect us. We essentially started 2 rookies and a 3rd year UDFA and a QB who throws the ball as hard as he possibly can. Thats a bad combination for drops. I've been very critical privately with Brissett and have lots to say on the matter but I will continue to hold that to myself, but some of you pretend that there is no drop off from Luck to Brissett. IMHO with Luck we are undefeated. We have yet to be completely out of a game and have only lost by the largest margin of 7 points. We are not getting blown out people this is still a very good roster. IMHO we are a good qb and a good DT away from a super bowl. The head calling for Ballard is asinine. Hes built up likely the most talented roster we have seen in nearly a decade, losing our best player at the most crucial position of the game is going to set us back a year or two. Be patient colts family.
  39. 20 points
    I live in NY metro area and have had MUTLIPLE Giants and Jets fans tell me over the last 4 days quite emphatically to "thank my blessings "I am a Colts fan. I have had Giants and Jets fans even envying the circumstances the Colts are in right now as compared to the 2 NY teams …..And Giants fans sound more depressed then I have heard in decades …...So Irsay …..Ballard …...Reich keep up the GREAT work …....GO COLTS !!!!!!!!!!
  40. 20 points
  41. 19 points
    There's already a celebration thread for this at Reddit.
  42. 19 points
    I think I see the problem. TY was running routes that were more than five yards downfield, putting him out of range of Brissett's arm.
  43. 19 points
    Merry Christmas to all. Back in Indy with family for the holidays and wanted to say blessings to all. Sports are fun but never forget what is truly important. Go Colts!
  44. 19 points
  45. 19 points
    The truth is that we simply need a better QB. That is all.
  46. 19 points
    This was embarrassingly bad. OL is supposed to be a strength for the team, but they've gotten pushed around 3 weeks in a row. I have no idea what Hoyer was thinking at the end there, throwing to the end zone 3 times in a row when it wasn't even goal-to-go. This was a brutal loss
  47. 19 points
    One heck of a game to him in a game that mattered a lot. We've desperately needed that WR who can step up and take advantage of defenses overloading on TY. Tonight he was that man. I think you've got to give Pascal a major role in the offense at this point. He's earned it and it looks like he might be able to handle it. He has definitely leapfrogged Cain and Campbell, at least for now.
  48. 19 points
    Enough of focusing on the negative. The run game has been steller two weeks in a row. I could use less of the sweeps to the outside, but Mack and Wilkins looked great between the tackles. Obviously Frank and Nick are trying to figure out what works. Having you're 100 million dollar QB retire two weeks before the season starts throws a wrench into the mix. Going on the road for the first two week against good teams and spitting is not the worst thing. The defense settled in today and played well. Headed to the LUKE next week. Things are not doom and gloom
  49. 19 points
    There was an alarming stat published yesterday or today that between 2012 and 2017 Colts Quarterbacks were pressured/hurried/sacked a WHOPPING 40% of all drop backs.....Brissett himself was sackef 52 times in 2017. 52 times...... In 2017 Brissett led an offense that most of us called a PeeWee League offense for dummies. Run right. Run left. 3rd ond 7 go for a pass. Like clockwork. Fast forward to now. One of the best offensive lines in the league is in front of him. He has weapons all around him in Mack, Hines, T.Y., Ebron, Doyle, Funchess, Campbell and now Cain. We have an up and coming defense that plays hard through the whistle and creates turnovers. Brissett put up 3,098 (in 15 games basically) yards, 13 TD's against only 7 INT's, and a 58.8 completion percentage in an inept offensive scheme. I envision a 30 TD season with 4000 yards out of him and we hold our own to the tune of 9-7 or 10-6 still. Call me crazy or overly optimistic but if he could perform like that with zero knowledge upon arrival in a crappy system he can perform well in a good system with good coaches and talent around him!
  50. 18 points
    Nelson is a monster, but lets give some love to Braden. Holding frank clark in check all game
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