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When did he consult you about who they think is elite?

I have heard one GM who says he thinks LTs and defensive players may go earlier than expected. Interesting ro see who wil Bowers won't be there at 15. He is special if u watch the tape.

If we stay at 15 and pick a player I would expect that player to be one of 19 he graded as a 1st rd talent. The only WR’s I have seen in the top 20 of the entire draft are Harrison, Nabors and Odunze. He can sit and hope if he wants but when he’s that close to possibly getting elite seems like it would be smart to move up and get one of them. And who cares if we have to pay him a big second contract. You should be happy you hit on a pick. You really prefer a role player instead of elite? Because of money. Omg that’s an unbelievable take. I can’t believe it. Wow!

It’s hard to get a read from Ballard's presser. It almost seemed liked he co-signed his young DB room and said they’re just going to roll the dice with what they have but maybe add some competition. I get that he feels they can take a leap, but I’m not sure I can be convinced that Flowers or Jones will ever be better than Quinyon Mitchell or Cooper DeJean. Of all of Ballard’s philosophies regarding team building (specifically related to the draft) the one I have the most issue with is the over confidence and eagerness to bank on low round players and UDFA’s as long term solutions. You have a projected starting secondary consisting a 7th round pick from Yale who did not play well last season, a 7th round corner who well outplayed his draft position, but has clear limitations athletically, a 3rd round safety who is gifted athletically, but we still don’t know if he’s better as FS or SS, and a 2nd round pick who showed great flashes when healthy but is still a question mark. I get rolling the dice with JuJu, but I don’t see why you wouldn’t look for upgrades for Thomas and Jones/Flowers. I know he said he’d like to add competition there, but drafting a guy 4th round likely isn’t going to give your CB group a boost. I know he said they’re technically not young in his eyes, but they are young. If you’re going to add another “young” corner, add one with high end traits and skills. I’m not dead set on Mitchell or DeJean in round 1 or bust because I also like a couple day 2 corners. I’m just saying I’d much rather take a shot with one of them than just run it back with the same group. Where we really need talent at for sure though is Edge.

This place will implode no matter what.

On DB: Q: "Are you worried you're too young?" A: "No, not anymore, they've grown up."

Ballard on character: "Who they are is important. ... We're dealing with young men here, who are not fully developed into men yet. We're talking about 20, 21, 22 year old young men that make mistakes... and I can live with some of those mistakes. ... But to me... when they fail is when they don't love the game. ... You've been around players who are not fully mature off the field, but on the field, they love football, so they're gonna do everything in their power to get better. ... And it's the hardest part to figure out. ... How are they gonna handle their time, cause they've got more of it, and how are they gonna handle their money. ... The hardest thing is getting the character right. ... There's a lot of times we'll pass on guys in the draft and I know people freak out... well there's usually something we found out or didn't like and we ended up passing. It wasn't a good fit for us, it might be a good fit for somebody else and they might make it work, but for us it wasn't." Football character.

The one thing that scares me about elite wrs is that 4 years later u r paying them 30 mill plus. U have to consider that if u going to trade up for one of the elite guys. I would prefer a role wr who can be replaced if and when his 2nd contract comes around. Say get a guy like Worthy and u r scheming him to get open. That's where a guy like Bowers is in some ways a better pick if u want to move up. Not nearly as expensive long term based on te salaries and he is a true weapon.

If he trades out of the first, I will likely jump on the fire him wagon

Hmmmm, back in 1996 the Jets drafted a mega hyped receiver 1st overall Keyshawn Johnson. Pretty good career 13 years over 10,000 yds. 64 TD. Guess who the Colts drafted at 19 that year? A hint, his son is the guy everybody wants this year. I think Marv Jr. will be at the least very good. Just pointing out, that sometimes the best in a class, aren't always the most hyped.

If they stay at 15 and grab a guy like Thomas, then they should take 2 more right after in case they miss. At this point, we need receivers so go get some.

I juat don't think with how this draft is loaded, they need to throw all their resources at one guy when u could get one at 15 who could be that guy and still retain your picks. Just not a smart move.

I knew someone would bring that up. Julio Jones was seen as a freak of nature. In terms of physical traits, Marvin and Nabers r not quite there. Jones was just a man amongst boys and that is a very rare trade to go up that far.

The 2 year c ame after punishment was handed down to Rodgers. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39437034/suspended-nfl-player-isaiah-rodgers-sr-says-bets-were-made-others They all were suspended indefinitely for at least 2023 season while being able to file for reinstatement after conclusion of 2023 season https://www.stampedeblue.com/2023/6/28/23777123/colts-isaiah-rodgers-suspended-2023-season-gambling-violations so I guess it was kinda open ended, but I think most people thought it would just be the 1 season. I know the Eagles did. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcsportsphiladelphia.com/nfl/philadelphia-eagles/jeff-lurie-optimistic-isaiah-rodgers-cleared-soon-nfl-suspension-gambling-policy/573635/%3famp=1 Now I agree he should've got more, just wasn't expecting the league to treat it differently from initial suspension (even though it was kinda left open ended, they were all looped together) Every case is different and he clearly did worse things than pretty much all the other guys that were suspended. Either way, the Eagles need to plan on not having him which will likely effect their draft plans.

We need a WR1, not just another receiver no matter how deep it is. If the Colts believe that Marvin, Malik, or Rome is a true WR1 then it does not matter the cost. You go get him and stop wasting time trying to see if guys picked out of round 1 will pan out. Sometimes they do, but it's rare they become elite ones.

If he knew who you were, I would bet he would think you suck, so there's that. He is a millionaire that has spent his career employed by NFL teams. What have you done?

Did you have a stroke? Are you ok,

The Falcons and Julio Jones disagree

I think waiting a few years is pumping the brakes

I love Flowers as a returner I was the lone person in his corner his rookie year, just not sure he is a true corner at this level, thought Jones played above his draft spot last year but if we can get an elite Zone Corner would help a bunch. I hate zone as do many here and everywhere else but Gus isnt changing.

They received the same punishment but the length of the suspension was "open ended." Really difficult to say "they received the same punishment " as the "punishment was not specified. But it's obvious that they view Rodgers violation to be more serious as last September , they specified the following... "Under the new policy, as disclosed in a memo from commissioner Roger Goodell that was obtained by ESPN on Friday, a player who places a bet involving his own team will be suspended at least two years. Bets placed by players on any NFL game will result in at least a one-year suspension." After reading this , I would think at least half this year and good chance the entire year.

Agreed. Guys will be left after the top 3 r gone. Agreed. Guys will be left after the top 3 r gone. Agreed. Guys will be left after the top 3 r gone. Agreed. Guys will be left after the top 3 r gone. Agreed. Guys will be left after the top 3 r gone.

We don't have anyone on the team that rules Bowers out for the Colts as a draft pick. A guy that could do that would be Kelce or Kittle.

This is a question that could go many ways. It depends on how the draft goes.

I agree with a possible trade up. I just don't think u move up from 15 to number 5 to get a wr. Teams moving up that far is always for a qb. Also, it is a rich wr draft. U r going to have to give up a haul to get him. I would rather a scenario fo maybe sliding back a little and getting Worthy if they are intent on getting that explosive wr with their 1st pick. Also, I would like to know what u think the Colts would have to move up that far? I got my own idea but wondering what u think.