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The one thing that scares me about elite wrs is that 4 years later u r paying them 30 mill plus. U have to consider that if u going to trade up for one of the elite guys. I would prefer a role wr who can be replaced if and when his 2nd contract comes around. Say get a guy like Worthy and u r scheming him to get open. That's where a guy like Bowers is in some ways a better pick if u want to move up. Not nearly as expensive long term based on te salaries and he is a true weapon.

If he trades out of the first, I will likely jump on the fire him wagon

Hmmmm, back in 1996 the Jets drafted a mega hyped receiver 1st overall Keyshawn Johnson. Pretty good career 13 years over 10,000 yds. 64 TD. Guess who the Colts drafted at 19 that year? A hint, his son is the guy everybody wants this year. I think Marv Jr. will be at the least very good. Just pointing out, that sometimes the best in a class, aren't always the most hyped.

If they stay at 15 and grab a guy like Thomas, then they should take 2 more right after in case they miss. At this point, we need receivers so go get some.

I juat don't think with how this draft is loaded, they need to throw all their resources at one guy when u could get one at 15 who could be that guy and still retain your picks. Just not a smart move.

I knew someone would bring that up. Julio Jones was seen as a freak of nature. In terms of physical traits, Marvin and Nabers r not quite there. Jones was just a man amongst boys and that is a very rare trade to go up that far.

The 2 year c ame after punishment was handed down to Rodgers. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39437034/suspended-nfl-player-isaiah-rodgers-sr-says-bets-were-made-others They all were suspended indefinitely for at least 2023 season while being able to file for reinstatement after conclusion of 2023 season https://www.stampedeblue.com/2023/6/28/23777123/colts-isaiah-rodgers-suspended-2023-season-gambling-violations so I guess it was kinda open ended, but I think most people thought it would just be the 1 season. I know the Eagles did. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcsportsphiladelphia.com/nfl/philadelphia-eagles/jeff-lurie-optimistic-isaiah-rodgers-cleared-soon-nfl-suspension-gambling-policy/573635/%3famp=1 Now I agree he should've got more, just wasn't expecting the league to treat it differently from initial suspension (even though it was kinda left open ended, they were all looped together) Every case is different and he clearly did worse things than pretty much all the other guys that were suspended. Either way, the Eagles need to plan on not having him which will likely effect their draft plans.

We need a WR1, not just another receiver no matter how deep it is. If the Colts believe that Marvin, Malik, or Rome is a true WR1 then it does not matter the cost. You go get him and stop wasting time trying to see if guys picked out of round 1 will pan out. Sometimes they do, but it's rare they become elite ones.

If he knew who you were, I would bet he would think you suck, so there's that. He is a millionaire that has spent his career employed by NFL teams. What have you done?

Did you have a stroke? Are you ok,

The Falcons and Julio Jones disagree

I think waiting a few years is pumping the brakes

I love Flowers as a returner I was the lone person in his corner his rookie year, just not sure he is a true corner at this level, thought Jones played above his draft spot last year but if we can get an elite Zone Corner would help a bunch. I hate zone as do many here and everywhere else but Gus isnt changing.

They received the same punishment but the length of the suspension was "open ended." Really difficult to say "they received the same punishment " as the "punishment was not specified. But it's obvious that they view Rodgers violation to be more serious as last September , they specified the following... "Under the new policy, as disclosed in a memo from commissioner Roger Goodell that was obtained by ESPN on Friday, a player who places a bet involving his own team will be suspended at least two years. Bets placed by players on any NFL game will result in at least a one-year suspension." After reading this , I would think at least half this year and good chance the entire year.

Agreed. Guys will be left after the top 3 r gone. Agreed. Guys will be left after the top 3 r gone. Agreed. Guys will be left after the top 3 r gone. Agreed. Guys will be left after the top 3 r gone. Agreed. Guys will be left after the top 3 r gone.

We don't have anyone on the team that rules Bowers out for the Colts as a draft pick. A guy that could do that would be Kelce or Kittle.

This is a question that could go many ways. It depends on how the draft goes.

I agree with a possible trade up. I just don't think u move up from 15 to number 5 to get a wr. Teams moving up that far is always for a qb. Also, it is a rich wr draft. U r going to have to give up a haul to get him. I would rather a scenario fo maybe sliding back a little and getting Worthy if they are intent on getting that explosive wr with their 1st pick. Also, I would like to know what u think the Colts would have to move up that far? I got my own idea but wondering what u think.

Woulda gone with Quinyon Mitchell and the top flanker-type WR in the 2nd. Roman Wilson, maybe.

I think you went for Kinchens too early. From most of the mocks and Twitter talk I see he’s a round 3-4 guy. If you had to pick a safety in round 2, I would have said go with Dadrion Taylor-Demerson.

This has me kind of happy. I’m glad Ogletree was cleared and he showed some great flashes during the season, but this *probably* rules out any thought of Bowers. I’m also assuming Woods will be back and healthy this season.

So the Colts wouldn't move up from #4 to #1 last year to secure either Stroud or Young ( who Irsay liked) but we now think they are going to shell out all this draft capital to move up to # 4. ( Btw...why does everyone think the Cards are going to trade the pick?....it's not happening)

That’s a fair price considering we don’t have many needs. We still have this years 2nd.

Let's pump the brakes on him and see how he is as a pro first.

I think that is far too steep with the needs we have. Maybe Irsay makes a play in a few years to get him here in free agency