I am a Dr. Suess fan and can recite many of his stories word for word. And sometimes, on these boards, the story of the Zax comes to mind.

In "The Zax", a north-going Zax and a south-going Zax meet face to face. Because they stubbornly refuse to move east, west, or any direction except their respective headings around each other, the two Zax become stuck. The Zax stand so long that eventually a highway overpass is built around them, and the story ends with the Zax still standing there "unbudged in their tracks." (from wikipedia)

In the past, the Brady v Manning debate was the most 'Zax-like'. But the new circular argument here is that of Manning v Luck.

It is a pointless and endless and circular argument that at times gets ugly. And some people seem determined that they shall win it. And in doing so, at times resort to 'name calling" and obsessed with arguing with people on the other side.

Now these names may not be bad, however our experience is that once people start using a 'name', offense is taken and the fight escalates.

So, please do not stereotype or categorize fans here. It tends to inflame arguments and that is the reason we don't allow it.

"And I'll prove to YOU," yelled the South-Going Zax, "That I can stand here in the prairie of Prax For fifty-nine years! For I live by a rule That I learned as a boy back in South-Going School. Never budge! That's my rule. Never budge in the least! Not an inch to the west! Not an inch to the east! I'll stay here, not budging! I can and I will If it makes you and me and the whole world stand still!"

Don't be a Zax!