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Gavin Memorial Draft (Post Easter) Round 4 (Final Round)

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1 minute ago, crazycolt1 said:

Just out of curiosity would we have enough interest in doing another mock draft after the draft is done?  If interest was strong enough we might could do a full seven round mock draft?

i dont know if we could pull that off in a week?!

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Just now, crazycolt1 said:

Just out of curiosity would we have enough interest in doing another mock draft after the draft is done?  If interest was strong enough we might could do a full seven round mock draft?

You commish it lol.  That's a tall order, though.  Literally would take one hour picks with nocurfew to even come close to finishing 4 rounds.  Either that or have multiple GMs doing a bevy of teams (i.e. you and nfl fan do 8 teams, me and csmopar do another 8 teams).

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1 minute ago, csmopar said:

i dont know if we could pull that off in a week?!

Nah, I wasn't thinking before I brought that idea up.

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Round 4 Order:

 

Pick (overall) 

1 (101). Green Bay Packers from Cleveland Browns - Mike White, QB, Western Kentucky
2 (102). Tampa Bay Buccaneers from New York Giants - RJ McIntosh, DL, Miami
3 (103). Pittsburgh Steelers from Houston Texans (TRADE) - Kerryon Johnson, RB, Auburn
4 (104). Minnesota Vikings from Indianapolis Colts (TRADE) - Holton Hill, CB, Texas
5 (105). Chicago Bears - Jalyn Holms, DL, Ohio State
6 (106). Denver Broncos - Kyzir White, S, West Virginia
7 (107). New York Jets - Tre'Quan Smith, WR, UCF
8 (108). New York Giants from Tampa Bay Buccaneers -  Uchenna Nwosu, DE/OLB, USC
9 (109). Washington Redskins from Denver Broncos via San Francisco 49ers - Tony Brown, CB, Alabama
10 (110). Oakland Raiders - Derrick Nnadi, DL, Florida State
11 (111). Los Angeles Rams from Miami Dolphins - Shaquem Griffin, OLB, UCF
12 (112). Cincinnati Bengals - @crestmount
13 (113). Denver Broncos from Washington Redskins - @Jared Cisneros
14 (114). Cleveland Browns from Minnesota Vikings via Cleveland Browns via Green Bay Packers (TRADE) - @SolidGold
15 (115). Chicago Bears from Arizona Cardinals - @CR91
16 (116). Dallas Cowboys - @Clem-Dog
17 (117). Detroit Lions - @Track Guy
18 (118). Baltimore Ravens - @danlhart87
19 (119). Los Angeles Chargers - @Irish Colt
20 (120). Seattle Seahawks - @PureLuck
21 (121). Buffalo Bills - @OffensivelyPC
22 (122). Kansas City Chiefs - @PureLuck
23 (123). Miami Dolphins from Cleveland Browns through Carolina Panthers - @stitches
24 (124). Kansas City Chiefs from Los Angeles Rams - @PureLuck
25 (125). Tennessee Titans - @Finball
26 (126). Atlanta Falcons - @chad72
27 (127). New Orleans Saints - @SaturdayAllDay
28 (128). San Francisco 49ers from Pittsburgh Steelers - @Shive
29 (129). Jacksonville Jaguars - @DaveA1102
30 (130). Philadelphia Eagles from Minnesota Vikings - @csmopar
31 (131). Miami Dolphins from New England Patriots through Philadelphia Eagles - @stitches
32 (132). Philadelphia Eagles - @csmopar
33 (133). Green Bay Packers (Compensatory) - @crazycolt1
34 (134). Arizona Cardinals (Compensatory) - @chad72
35 (135). Los Angeles Rams from New York Giants (Compensatory) - @HectorRoberts
36 (136). Los Angeles Rams from New England Patriots (Compensatory) - @HectorRoberts
37 (137). Dallas Cowboys (Compensatory) - @Clem-Dog

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1 minute ago, OffensivelyPC said:

Dream job.  Knowing what I know now, I wish I had used my short stint as an IU football player to get in to player scouting.  Alas, I don't regret it either - you know, pesky little wife and kids that I can't seem to keep myself away from.

 

haha You can always use your legal background in sports. 

 

Btw, as an IU alum, how do you like Ian Thomas? I saw some other Hoosiers on the list too. Any players you like? Thanks!

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3 minutes ago, csmopar said:

i dont know if we could pull that off in a week?!

I would do it if I could have the Colts and Broncos. Up to everyone else here though. Tall order.

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Remaining Big Board:

 

74.          Kalen Ballage      Arizona State     RBF        6'1"        228                

76.          Dorance Armstrong         Kansas  EDGE     6'3"        257        

85.          DeShon Elliott    Texas    S              6'1"        207                      

94.          Trevon Young    Louisville              EDGE     6'4"        258        

97.          Poona Ford         Texas    DL3T      6'0"        300           

99.          Steven Richardson       Minnesota          DL3T      6'0"        300        

100.        Terrell Edmunds               Virginia Tech      S          6'0"        217                

105.        Andrew Brown  Virginia DL5T      6'3"        296        

106.        Scott Quessenberry        UCLA     OC          6'4"        315

107.        Mark Walton      Miami (FL)           RBF        5'10"      202             

109.        Ito Smith              Southern Miss   RBC        5'9"        195        

112.        Kameron Kelly   San Diego St       S              6'2"        204        

113.        Trenton Thompson         Georgia DL3T      6'3"        288        

114.        Jeff Holland        Auburn EDGE     6'1"        249        

115.        Allen Lazard        Iowa State           WRF       6'5"        223        

116.        Nyheim Hines    NC State              RBC        5'8"        198

118.        Joshua Frazier    Alabama              DL1T      6'3"        321        

119.        Folorunso Fatukasi          Connecticut        DL1T      6'4"        318        

124.        Akrum Wadley  Iowa      RBF        5'10"      194

126.        Nick Nelson        Wisconsin            CB           5'11"      200        

127.        Brendan Mahon               Penn St OG         6'4"        315        

128.        Marcell Frazier  Missouri               EDGE     6'5"        265        

129.        Keke Coutee      Texas Tech          WRS       5'11"      180        

130.        Deontay Burnett              USC        WRF       6'0"        170        

131.        Josh Adams        Notre Dame       RBF        6'2"        213        

132.        Michael Hill         Ohio State           DL3T      6'2"        295        

133.        Cedrick Wilson  Boise State         WRF       6'3"        188        

134.        Chase Litton       Marshall               QB          6'6"        211        

136.        Deadrin Senat   South Florida      DL1T      6'0"        314        

137.        Kendrick Norton               Miami   DL1T      6'3"        314        

138.        Troy Fumagalli   Wisconsin            TE           6'5"        234        

139.        Dorian O'Daniel Clemson              OLB        6'1"        223        

140.        Bradley Bozeman       Alabama              OC          6'5"        314        

141.        DaeSean Hamilton           Penn State         WRF     6'1"      211        

142.        Marcus Allen      Penn State          S              6'2"        215        

143.        Mike McCray      Michigan              ILB          6'1"        243        

144.        Kevin Toliver II   LSU        CB           6'2"        192        

145.        Christian Sam     Arizona State     ILB          6'1"        244        

146.        Riley Ferguson  Memphis             QB          6'4"        210        

147.        Breeland Speaks               Ole Miss           DL3T      6'3"    283        

148.        Marcell Ateman Oklahoma State WRF       6'4"        220        

149.        Ike Boettger       Iowa      OT          6'5"        307        

150.        Bo Scarbrough   Alabama              RBF        6'1"        228        

151.        Chad Thomas     Miami (FL)           EDGE     6'5"        281        

152.        Tegray Scales     Indiana     ILB          6'0"        230

153.        Durham Smythe               Notre Dame       TE           6'4"        245        

154.        Quin Blanding    Virginia S              6'2"        207        

155.        Lowell Lotulelei Utah      DL1T      6'2"        315        

156.        Justin Jones        NC State              DL1T      6'2"        309        

157.        Kylie Fitts             Utah      EDGE     6'4"        263        

158.        Mason Cole        Michigan              OC          6'4"        307        

159.        D.J. Reed             Kansas St             CB           5'9"        188        

160.        Kentavius Street               NC State              DL3T      6'2"        280        

161.        Jaleel Scott          NMSU   WRF       6'6"        215        

163.        Jordan Lasley     UCLA     WRF       6'1"        209        

164.        Justin Jackson    Northwestern   RBC        6'0"        199

165.        Jordan Whitehead      Pittsburgh           S              5'10"      198        

166.        Jaylen Samuels  NC State              FB           5'11"      236

167.        John Kelly            Tennessee          RBF        5'10"      216        

168.        J.C. Jackson         Maryland             CB           5'10"      201        

169.        Roc Thomas        Jacksonville St    RBF        5'10"      198        

170.        Ryan Izzo             Florida State       TE           6'5"        245        

171.        Armani Watts    Texas A&M         S              5'10"      202        

172.        DeQuinton Osborne       Oklahoma State DL3T      6'1"        305        

173.        Auden Tate         Florida State       WRF       6'5"        225        

174.        Marquis Haynes               Ole Miss               EDGE     6'2"        235        

175.        David Moa          Boise State         DL3T      6'3"        271         

177.        Mike Ramsay     Duke     DL3T      6'2"        290        

178.        J'Mon Moore     Missouri               WRF       6'3"        190        

180.        Will Geary           Kansas State       DL3T      6'0"        298        

181.        Dalyn Dawkins   Colorado State  RBC        5'9"        185        

182.        Du'Vonta Lampkin           Oklahoma           DL1T      6'4"        335        

183.        De'Asian Richardson       Louisville              DL1T      6'3"        322        

184.        Jack Cichy            Wisconsin            ILB          6'2"        238        

185.        Griffin Oakes      Indiana PK           5'10"      198        

186.        P.J. Hall SHSU     DL3T      6'1"        308        

187.        Justin Crawford West Virginia      RBF        5'11"      199        

188.        Cam Phillips        Virginia Tech      WRF       6'0"        203        

190.        Brandon Facyson              Virginia Tech      CB           6'1"        203        

191.        Christian LaCouture        LSU        DL5T      6'4"        307        

192.        Kahlil McKenzie Jr            Tennessee          DL1T      6'3"        314        

193.        Eddy Pineiro       Florida  PK           5'11"      178        

194.        Ethan Wolf          Tennessee          TE           6'5"        248        

195.        James Looney    Cal          DL3T      6'3"        287        

196.        Antonio Callaway             Florida  WRS       5'11"      197        

197.        Taron Johnson  Weber State       CB           5'11"      192        

198.        Michael Dickson               Texas    P             6'2"        209        

199.        Dylan Cantrell    Texas Tech          WRF       6'3"        225        

200.        Daylon Mack      Texas A&M         DL1T      6'0"       

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1 minute ago, Jared Cisneros said:

I would do it if I could have the Colts and Broncos. Up to everyone else here though. Tall order.

I am not computer savvy enough to commish it myself. But you are correct in the tall order.

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1 minute ago, Jared Cisneros said:

I would do it if I could have the Colts and Broncos. Up to everyone else here though. Tall order.

256 picks total. only 185 hours remaining before the start of the draft.  Even at an hour a pick, no curfew, I don't think we could pull that off

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Just now, csmopar said:

256 picks total. only 185 hours remaining before the start of the draft.  Even at an hour a pick, no curfew, I don't think we could pull that off

Me neither.

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Not sure about 7 rounds for me, I have just been guessing at players since we left Round 2!! haha

 

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23 minutes ago, DaveA1102 said:

Not sure about 7 rounds for me, I have just been guessing at players since we left Round 2!! haha

 

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Gene Smith... is that you?

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7 minutes ago, crazycolt1 said:

I am not computer savvy enough to commish it myself. But you are correct in the tall order.

I'll continue to Commish, but it's up to everyone else if we continue.

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1 minute ago, Finball said:

 

Gene Smith... is that you?

 

Not me, although I am now worried you are all getting a bit too close to my real identity....

 

Image result for ryan grigson

 

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1 minute ago, NFLfan said:

 

haha You can always use your legal background in sports. 

 

Btw, as an IU alum, how do you like Ian Thomas? I saw some other Hoosiers on the list too. Any players you like? Thanks!

I watched film on Ian Thomas and Cobbs, but haven't seen film on Tegray Scales.  I didn't get to watch a ton of college this year because I was in a hospital from Mid-September to December, so what I've watched has been on draftbreakdown.com.

 

I really like Ian Thomas, I think he's an underrated sleeper in this year's draft and not enough people are talking about him.  I see a some David Njoku in him, though not quite as athletically gifted (though still very gifted).  He's got some developing he will need to go through, but there's no reason to think he couldn't come into his own by year 3 (year 2 if he stays healthy and advances rapidly).

 

I've come around on Simmie Cobbs, I didn't see him as the Day 2 talent as some saw him very early in the draft process, but I do think he can be a solid redzone target and a guy who can really move the chains in tight spots - but I think he needs a top tier QB to make that happens.  The catch radius on that guy is the best in this draft if you ask me.  If Aaron Rodgers throws him the ball, he will be very difficult to defends.   

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2 minutes ago, OffensivelyPC said:

The catch radius on that guy is the best in this draft if you ask me.  If Aaron Rodgers throws him the ball, he will be very difficult to defends.   

 

The Packers will be looking to draft WRs. They don't have much at the position. 

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12 minutes ago, DaveA1102 said:

Not sure about 7 rounds for me, I have just been guessing at players since we left Round 2!! haha

 

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Hell, that's no different than some of the real GMs? :billiejean:

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Bears select Jalyn holmes

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7 minutes ago, DaveA1102 said:

Not sure about 7 rounds for me, I have just been guessing at players since we left Round 2!! haha

 

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lol if you just picked cool names no one would know the difference at this point.  Once we get to round 4, but especially round 5, no one knows what will happen to an even greater extent compared to Rounds 1-3

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9 minutes ago, WarGhost21 said:

I'll continue to Commish, but it's up to everyone else if we continue.

It's fine by me. I haven't got anything better to do. If anything, this mock has been entertaining.

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2 minutes ago, NFLfan said:

 

The Packers will be looking to draft WRs. They don't have much at the position. 

He's got the soft hands and extension and body control to take on the types of throws Rodgers utilizes down in the redzone - back shoulder throws, extending out of bounds on outs and the like.  That is absolute best case scenario in my eyes.  If Drew Brees were 31, the Saints would be the second best landing spot.  No one is more accurate with a football than Drew Brees in his prime - plus you get the added bonus of Purdue QB throwing to an IU WR.

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13 minutes ago, DaveA1102 said:

Not sure about 7 rounds for me, I have just been guessing at players since we left Round 2!! haha

 

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Participating in the Mock draft is a good way to learn about players you are unfamiliar with. Check out the other threads in the scouting section for information about other players and draft resources.

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2 minutes ago, Jared Cisneros said:

Nice steal buddy. Thought we were friends all this time! haha

 

Haha. Sorry bears need some more pass rushers

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With the 106th pick of the 2018 NFL Draft, the Denver Broncos select Kyzir White, S, West Virginia.

Guy is a true leader and an absolute physical bruiser. Also a very good playmaker. Just what Denver needs in the 4th round after taking offense early.

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7 minutes ago, CR91 said:

 

Haha. Sorry bears need some more pass rushers

You know what they say, never have too many pass rushers!

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Where do folks believe the guy with one hand will go? Would you like the Colts to take a chance on him (Shaq Griffin)?

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24 minutes ago, NFLfan said:

Where do folks believe the guy with one hand will go? Would you like the Colts to take a chance on him (Shaq Griffin)?

 

He's probably going around this area IMO. Early day 3 pick.

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3 minutes ago, NFLfan said:

Where do folks believe the guy with one hand will go? Would you like the Colts to take a chance on him (Shaq Griffin)?

late 4th. Colts have 2 4ths, i could see them taking a flyer on him, he's driven/hungry. 

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Just now, NFLfan said:

Where do folks believe the guy with one hand will go? Would you like the Colts to take a chance on him?

Shaquem Griffin looked great at the combine, however, he has the biggest bust potential of anyone in the draft. I think he will struggle when the action gets physical. I'd avoid him as a Colts fan, but I hope he succeeds in the NFL. Really enjoy his story.

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7 minutes ago, Jared Cisneros said:

Shaquem Griffin looked great at the combine, however, he has the biggest bust potential of anyone in the draft. I think he will struggle when the action gets physical. I'd avoid him as a Colts fan, but I hope he succeeds in the NFL. Really enjoy his story.

agree

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One last question from me. Anyone besides me like DaeSean Hamilton? He is a WR on Penn State. One scout thinks he will go undrafted. :scratch:  I'd like my team to select him. He is a high character guy. He played well at the Senior Bowl. The Vikes have 3 sixth round picks. If he is still there in the 6th, I want us to draft him.

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23 minutes ago, NFLfan said:

One last question from me. Anyone besides me like DaeSean Hamilton? He is a WR on Penn State. One scout thinks he will go undrafted. :scratch:  I'd like my team to select him. He is a high character guy. He played well at the Senior Bowl. The Vikes have 3 sixth round picks. If he is still therein the 6th, I want us to draft him.

 

Highly unlikely he's there at 6th round unless he really lacks drive.. one of the best route runners in the class.

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2 minutes ago, NFLfan said:

One last question from me. Anyone besides me like DaeSean Hamilton? He is a WR on Penn State. One scout thinks he will go undrafted. :scratch:  I'd like my team to select him. He is a high character guy. He played well at the Senior Bowl. The Vikes have 3 sixth round picks. If he is still there in the 6th, I want us to draft him.

I don't think he'll last to round 6.  He's not one of those guys who will light up the stat box, but he's got plus route running ability, good (not great) hands, and he knows how to get open.  He will be a solid #2 type of receiver, or at least that's his ceiling, but he's got a good chance to stick on a roster because his transition to the NFL has a clearer path, even if you shouldn't expect him to be much more than a 5-7 receptions 75 yards a game when he's at his best.

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25 minutes ago, OffensivelyPC said:

I don't think he'll last to round 6.  He's not one of those guys who will light up the stat box, but he's got plus route running ability, good (not great) hands, and he knows how to get open.  He will be a solid #2 type of receiver, or at least that's his ceiling, but he's got a good chance to stick on a roster because his transition to the NFL has a clearer path, even if you shouldn't expect him to be much more than a 5-7 receptions 75 yards a game when he's at his best.

 

75 yards per game... is a lot. 1200 in a full season. Less than 10 receivers averaged more than 75 yds per game last year. He probably won't get to that or even close and I'm a fan of the kid.

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6 minutes ago, Finball said:

 

75 yards per game... is a lot. 1200 in a full season. Less than 10 receivers averaged more than 75 yds per game last year. He probably won't get to that or even close and I'm a fan of the kid.

I didn't mean as a per average game, I meant that is as much as you can expect when he's at his best.

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23 minutes ago, OffensivelyPC said:

I didn't mean as a per average game, I meant that is as much as you can expect when he's at his best.

 

Ah, my bad. That I can agree with though many starting receivers usually have game or few per season where they get over 100 yds.

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