Gavin Memorial Draft (Post Easter) Round 3

[csmopar]

14 minutes ago, crazycolt1 said:

I think we are back to the assigned times but now you will not go on the clock till that time.

If your pick is ready early we will move along.

ok, thanks

[chad72]

28 minutes ago, crazycolt1 said:

I think we are back to the assigned times but now you will not go on the clock till that time.

If your pick is ready early we will move along.

 

Yep, if @crestmount that I PM'ed a couple of hours ago is not available, we have to wait it out till 4 pm, after which consensus can begin.

 

I will be busy on and off today, so if someone can monitor the picks today, that would be good, at least till 7 pm.

[PureLuck]

I'm not going to be available to make the pick for the Chiefs at 78, Chiefs take either 

BJ Hill or if he's taken by crestmount Chiefs select Tim Settle ;) 

[OffensivelyPC]

15 minutes ago, PureLuck said:

I'm not going to be available to make the pick for the Chiefs at 78, Chiefs take either 

BJ Hill or if he's taken by crestmount Chiefs select Tim Settle ;) 

Personally, I like Settle better than Hill, but I do like both guys.  If I recall, they are both fits for our defense going forward. Settle is just a handful.  I don't know why the reports are concerned about his weight.  Yeah he carries some bad weight, but I might be missing something about his training/conditioning.  Does he have a weightroom and dieting habit?  Or is it they just say, well, he's a on the fat-chunky side, so he needs to be monitored?

[PureLuck]

1 hour ago, OffensivelyPC said:

Personally, I like Settle better than Hill, but I do like both guys.  If I recall, they are both fits for our defense going forward. Settle is just a handful.  I don't know why the reports are concerned about his weight.  Yeah he carries some bad weight, but I might be missing something about his training/conditioning.  Does he have a weightroom and dieting habit?  Or is it they just say, well, he's a on the fat-chunky side, so he needs to be monitored?

Read that Settle could have problems staying in shape, he really is big enough right now, might have to lose a few pounds... he'd be fine playing nose in a 3-4, I think that's where he'd play in KC, while I don't see him as a perfect fit for our new defensive scheme to be honest... Hill on the other hand is someone I could see Ballard targeting in Round 3 or if he's still there with our 4th rounder...

[krunk]

Settle can do whatever he wants in there.  He's big but he pushes the pocket very well.

He moves well.  He's not a plodder like Hankins.

[OffensivelyPC]

26 minutes ago, krunk said:

Settle can do whatever he wants in there.  He's big but he pushes the pocket very well.

He moves well.  He's not a plodder like Hankins.

 

53 minutes ago, PureLuck said:

Read that Settle could have problems staying in shape, he really is big enough right now, might have to lose a few pounds... he'd be fine playing nose in a 3-4, I think that's where he'd play in KC, while I don't see him as a perfect fit for our new defensive scheme to be honest... Hill on the other hand is someone I could see Ballard targeting in Round 3 or if he's still there with our 4th rounder...

I agree with Krunk, he's just as much a fit in a 3-4 as he is a 4-3.  For as big as he is, he does move better than you'd expect.  You wish he was a bit more explosive - or utilized his explosiveness more effectively with better technique - but he's on the raw side and with the right coaching can tap into that ability more than he currently does.

[krunk]

7 minutes ago, OffensivelyPC said:

 

I agree with Krunk, he's just as much a fit in a 3-4 as he is a 4-3.  For as big as he is, he does move better than you'd expect.  You wish he was a bit more explosive - or utilized his explosiveness more effectively with better technique - but he's on the raw side and with the right coaching can tap into that ability more than he currently does.

A comp I saw them give was Vince Wilfork.  Wilfork could have played in either system. Wasn't limited to just being a nose.

[SolidGold]

Consensus time ?

[Yoshinator]

2 minutes ago, SolidGold said:

Consensus time ?

Yep, it's time. Who should crestmount and the Bengals take?

[OffensivelyPC]

Anyone know their needs?  I mean I could look it up but if someone knows, that'd be easier.

[chad72]

3 minutes ago, Jared Cisneros said:

Yep, it's time. Who should crestmount and the Bengals take?

 

I vote for Quenton Meeks, CB, Stanford, fits the zone that the Bengals run.

 

Offensive line - interior is a need for the Bengals too. They got Cordy Glenn for tackle but not sure about interior.

[Yoshinator]

Just now, chad72 said:

 

I vote for Quenton Meeks, CB, Stanford, fits the zone that the Bengals run.

Was going to suggest him. I'm for it.

[OffensivelyPC]

That was my first thought, minus the "fits the zone that the Bengals run" bit lol.  So I'm on board with that.

[OffensivelyPC]

Is the pick made now?  Or is consensus now and then in 2 hours we make his pick plus the guy who named his options above?

[chad72]

I don't know if there is any quality interior OL available compared to Meeks at CB.

[crazycolt1]

1 minute ago, chad72 said:

 

I vote for Quenton Meeks, CB, Stanford, fits the zone that the Bengals run.

There biggest need is offensive linemen and TE.

[chad72]

1 minute ago, crazycolt1 said:

There biggest need is offensive linemen and TE.

 

Who is the best interior OL and TE available? I'd go there after looking at their needs.

[crazycolt1]

They do need a CB as well so I am fine with your choice.

[chad72]

Just now, crazycolt1 said:

They do need a CB as well so I am fine with your choice.

 

OK, let us get done with it.

 

The Bengals select Quenton Meeks, CB, Stanford

[chad72]

Based on @PureLuck's message previously, The Chiefs select B.J.Hill, NC State.

[chad72]

Round 3

 

Pick (overall) 
1 (65). Buffalo Bills from Cleveland Browns - Joseph Noteboom, OT, TCU
2 (66). New York Giants - Jessie Bates, S, Wake Forest
3 (67). Cleveland Browns from Minnesota Vikings via Indianapolis Colts (TRADE) - Luke Falk, QB, Washington State
4 (68). Pittsburgh Steelers from Houston Texans (TRADE) - Josey Jewell, LB, Iowa
5 (69). New York Giants from Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Malik Jefferson, LB, Texas
6 (70). San Francisco 49ers from Chicago Bears - Wyatt Teller, OG, Virginia Tech
7 (71). New Orleans Saints from Denver Broncos (TRADE) - James Washington, WR, Oklahoma State
8 (72). New York Jets - Royce Freeman, RB, Oregon
9 (73). Miami Dolphins - Nathan Shepherd, DT, Fort Hays State
10 (74). San Francisco 49ers - Isaac Yiadom, CB, Boston College
11 (75). Oakland Raiders -  Donte Jackson CB LSU 
12 (76). Green Bay Packers - Dalton Schultz TE Stanford
13 (77). Cincinnati Bengals -  Quenton Meeks, CB, Stanford
14 (78). Kansas City Chiefs from Washington Redskins - B.J.Hill, DT, NC State
15 (79). Arizona Cardinals  - Anthony Averett, CB, Alabama
16 (80). Houston Texans from Seattle Seahawks - Brandon Parker, OT, North Carolina A&T
17 (81). Dallas Cowboys - Duke Dawson CB Florida
18 (82). Detroit Lions - Ogbonnia Okoronkwo, Edge/LB, Oklahoma
19 (83). Baltimore Ravens -  @danlhart87 
20 (84). Los Angeles Chargers -  @IrishColt
21 (85). Carolina Panthers from Buffalo Bills - @WarGhost21 
22 (86). Kansas City Chiefs -  @PureLuck
23 (87). Los Angeles Rams -   @HectorRoberts 
24 (88). Carolina Panthers -  @WarGhost21
25 (89). Tennessee Titans - @Finball
26 (90). Atlanta Falcons -  @chad72 
27 (91). New Orleans Saints -  @SaturdayAllDay 
28 (92). Pittsburgh Steelers -  @NFLfan 
29 (93). Jacksonville Jaguars - @DaveA1102 
30 (94). Minnesota Vikings -  @nfl fan 
31 (95). Minnesota Vikings from New England Patriots - @NFLfan
32 (96). Buffalo Bills from Philadelphia Eagles - @OffensivelyPC
33 (97). Tampa Bay Buccaneers from Arizona Cardinals (Compensatory) (TRADE) -  @WarGhost21 
34 (98). Houston Texans (Compensatory) - @csmopar
35 (99). Denver Broncos (Compensatory) - @Jared Cisneros
36 (100). Cincinnati Bengals (Compensatory) -  @crestmount

[chad72]

With the 79th pick, The Arizona Cardinals select:

 

Anthony Averett, CB, Alabama

[chad72]

With the 80th pick, The Houston Texans select (via PM):

 

Brandon Parker North Carolina A&T, OT

 

The Dallas Cowboys and @Clem-Dog are on the clock next.

 

I am off till about 8 pm, so someone can handle commish duties in my absence. Thanks.  

[chad72]

Top players available:

 

48.          Uchenna Nwosu               USC        OLB        6'2"        251        

53.          Kyzir White         West Virginia      S              6'2"        218                

57.          Harrison Phillips              Stanford             DL1T     6'3"     307                          

69.          M.J. Stewart       North Carolina   CB           5'11"      200         S

70.          Desmond Harrison           West Georgia     OT       6'6"       292           

73.          Kerryon Johnson            Auburn RBF        5'11"      213        

74.          Kalen Ballage      Arizona State     RBF        6'1"        228                

76.          Dorance Armstrong         Kansas  EDGE     6'3"        257        

77.          Mark Andrews  Oklahoma           TE           6'5"        253        

78.          Jerome Baker    Ohio State           ILB          6'1"        229         OLB    

80.          Simmie Cobbs Jr.              Indiana WRF       6'4"        220        

83.          Mike White         Western Kentucky           QB          6'3"        215              

85.          DeShon Elliott    Texas    S              6'1"        207        

86.          Anthony Miller  Memphis             WRS       5'11"      190                

88.          Michael Gallup  Colorado St         WRF       6'1"        195        

89.          Holton Hill           Texas    CB           6'2"        196        

90.          Tyrell Crosby      Oregon OT          6'5"        309        

93.          Tre'Quan Smith UCF        WRF       6'1"        209        

94.          Trevon Young    Louisville              EDGE     6'4"        258        

95.          Tarvarus McFadden        Florida State       CB      6'2"        204        

96.          RJ McIntosh       Miami   DL3T      6'4"        286        

97.          Poona Ford         Texas    DL3T      6'0"        300           

99.          Steven Richardson       Minnesota          DL3T      6'0"        300        

100.        Terrell Edmunds               Virginia Tech      S          6'0"        217                

102.        Derrick Nnadi     Florida State       DL1T      6'1"        317        

103.        Tony Brown        Alabama              CB           6'0"        199        

104.        Darius Leonard  S Carolina State OLB        6'2"        234        

105.        Andrew Brown  Virginia DL5T      6'3"        296        

106.        Scott Quessenberry        UCLA     OC          6'4"        315         OG

107.        Mark Walton      Miami (FL)           RBF        5'10"      202        

108.        Jalyn Holmes      Ohio State           DL5T      6'5"        283        

109.        Ito Smith              Southern Miss   RBC        5'9"        195        

110.        Ian Thomas         Indiana TE           6'5"        248         

112.        Kameron Kelly   San Diego St       S              6'2"        204        

113.        Trenton Thompson         Georgia DL3T      6'3"        288        

114.        Jeff Holland        Auburn EDGE     6'1"        249        

115.        Allen Lazard        Iowa State           WRF       6'5"        223        

116.        Nyheim Hines    NC State              RBC        5'8"        198         RBF

117.        Rashaan Gaulden        Tennessee          CB           6'1"        197        

118.        Joshua Frazier    Alabama              DL1T      6'3"        321        

119.        Folorunso Fatukasi          Connecticut        DL1T      6'4"        318        

120.        Micah Kiser         Virginia ILB          6'0"        238        

121.        Tim Settle           VA Tech                DL1T      6'3"        329           

123.        Kyle Lauletta      Richmond            QB          6'3"        216        

124.        Akrum Wadley  Iowa      RBF        5'10"      194         RBC

126.        Nick Nelson        Wisconsin            CB           5'11"      200        

127.        Brendan Mahon               Penn St OG         6'4"        315        

128.        Marcell Frazier  Missouri               EDGE     6'5"        265        

129.        Keke Coutee      Texas Tech          WRS       5'11"      180        

130.        Deontay Burnett              USC        WRF       6'0"        170        

131.        Josh Adams        Notre Dame       RBF        6'2"        213        

132.        Michael Hill         Ohio State           DL3T      6'2"        295        

133.        Cedrick Wilson  Boise State         WRF       6'3"        188        

134.        Chase Litton       Marshall               QB          6'6"        211        

135.        Shaquem Griffin               UCF        S              6'2"        229         OLB

136.        Deadrin Senat   South Florida      DL1T      6'0"        314        

137.        Kendrick Norton               Miami   DL1T      6'3"        314        

138.        Troy Fumagalli   Wisconsin            TE           6'5"        234        

139.        Dorian O'Daniel Clemson              OLB        6'1"        223        

140.        Bradley Bozeman       Alabama              OC          6'5"        314        

141.        DaeSean Hamilton           Penn State         WRF     6'1"      211        

142.        Marcus Allen      Penn State          S              6'2"        215        

143.        Mike McCray      Michigan              ILB          6'1"        243        

144.        Kevin Toliver II   LSU        CB           6'2"        192        

145.        Christian Sam     Arizona State     ILB          6'1"        244        

146.        Riley Ferguson  Memphis             QB          6'4"        210        

147.        Breeland Speaks               Ole Miss           DL3T      6'3"    283        

148.        Marcell Ateman Oklahoma State WRF       6'4"        220        

149.        Ike Boettger       Iowa      OT          6'5"        307        

150.        Bo Scarbrough   Alabama              RBF        6'1"        228        

151.        Chad Thomas     Miami (FL)           EDGE     6'5"        281        

152.        Tegray Scales     Indiana ILB          6'0"        230         OLB

153.        Durham Smythe               Notre Dame       TE           6'4"        245        

154.        Quin Blanding    Virginia S              6'2"        207        

155.        Lowell Lotulelei Utah      DL1T      6'2"        315        

156.        Justin Jones        NC State              DL1T      6'2"        309        

157.        Kylie Fitts             Utah      EDGE     6'4"        263        

158.        Mason Cole        Michigan              OC          6'4"        307        

159.        D.J. Reed             Kansas St             CB           5'9"        188        

160.        Kentavius Street               NC State              DL3T      6'2"        280        

161.        Jaleel Scott          NMSU   WRF       6'6"        215        

163.        Jordan Lasley     UCLA     WRF       6'1"        209        

164.        Justin Jackson    Northwestern   RBC        6'0"        199         RBF

165.        Jordan Whitehead      Pittsburgh           S              5'10"      198        

166.        Jaylen Samuels  NC State              FB           5'11"      236         TE

167.        John Kelly            Tennessee          RBF        5'10"      216        

168.        J.C. Jackson         Maryland             CB           5'10"      201        

169.        Roc Thomas        Jacksonville St    RBF        5'10"      198        

170.        Ryan Izzo             Florida State       TE           6'5"        245        

171.        Armani Watts    Texas A&M         S              5'10"      202        

172.        DeQuinton Osborne       Oklahoma State DL3T      6'1"        305        

173.        Auden Tate         Florida State       WRF       6'5"        225        

174.        Marquis Haynes               Ole Miss               EDGE     6'2"        235        

175.        David Moa          Boise State         DL3T      6'3"        271        

176.        Kemoko Turay   Rutgers EDGE     6'5"        253        

177.        Mike Ramsay     Duke     DL3T      6'2"        290        

178.        J'Mon Moore     Missouri               WRF       6'3"        190        

180.        Will Geary           Kansas State       DL3T      6'0"        298        

181.        Dalyn Dawkins   Colorado State  RBC        5'9"        185        

182.        Du'Vonta Lampkin           Oklahoma           DL1T      6'4"        335        

183.        De'Asian Richardson       Louisville              DL1T      6'3"        322        

184.        Jack Cichy            Wisconsin            ILB          6'2"        238        

185.        Griffin Oakes      Indiana PK           5'10"      198        

186.        P.J. Hall SHSU     DL3T      6'1"        308        

187.        Justin Crawford West Virginia      RBF        5'11"      199        

188.        Cam Phillips        Virginia Tech      WRF       6'0"        203        

189.        Jamarco Jones   Ohio State           OT          6'4"        299        

190.        Brandon Facyson              Virginia Tech      CB           6'1"        203        

191.        Christian LaCouture        LSU        DL5T      6'4"        307        

192.        Kahlil McKenzie Jr            Tennessee          DL1T      6'3"        314        

193.        Eddy Pineiro       Florida  PK           5'11"      178        

194.        Ethan Wolf          Tennessee          TE           6'5"        248        

195.        James Looney    Cal          DL3T      6'3"        287        

196.        Antonio Callaway             Florida  WRS       5'11"      197        

197.        Taron Johnson  Weber State       CB           5'11"      192        

198.        Michael Dickson               Texas    P             6'2"        209        

199.        Dylan Cantrell    Texas Tech          WRF       6'3"        225        

200.        Daylon Mack      Texas A&M         DL1T      6'0"       

[Clem-Dog]

With the 81st pick the Cowboys select:

 

Duke Dawson CB Florida

[Clem-Dog]

@Track Guy is on the clock with the Lions pick.

[Track Guy]

With the 82nd pick the Lions select...

 

Ogbonnia Okoronkwo, Edge/LB, Oklahoma

[Track Guy]

 @danlhart87 / Ravens on the clock

[crestmount]

Sorry for delaying everything guys.  I'm currently on sick leave following major spinal surgery so I slept in--also discovered that when you spill coffee on your laptop it doesn't work too well for a while.  Meeks was the guy I was going to pick anyway, so that's all good.

[csmopar]

Good grief folks. Look I don't want to sound unappreciative or whining but can we please pick what way we're going to handle the time allotment and stick to it already?!?! I asked earlier today and was told you didn't go on the clock until the time posted, which wasn't until 10 pm tonight for me. Now I log in and see not only did we blow right thru my pick but multiple others. Granted I did pm my picks to chad72 in case I wouldn't be here, but come on, quit switching the dang timing on people. It's beyond ridiculous now. Don't tell someone their time starts at 10 pm and then move it up 5 hours without telling them. 

 

It's confusing as hell and zaps literally all fun out of it. If you're gonna assign start times, then assign start times and stick to them, if you're gonna go with a 2 he limit from the time the previous pick was made, then do that. I don't care which but dang pick something and stick to it. 

[chad72]

35 minutes ago, csmopar said:

Good grief folks. Look I don't want to sound unappreciative or whining but can we please pick what way we're going to handle the time allotment and stick to it already?!?! I asked earlier today and was told you didn't go on the clock until the time posted, which wasn't until 10 pm tonight for me. Now I log in and see not only did we blow right thru my pick but multiple others. Granted I did pm my picks to chad72 in case I wouldn't be here, but come on, quit switching the dang timing on people. It's beyond ridiculous now. Don't tell someone their time starts at 10 pm and then move it up 5 hours without telling them. 

 

It's confusing as hell and zaps literally all fun out of it. If you're gonna assign start times, then assign start times and stick to them, if you're gonna go with a 2 he limit from the time the previous pick was made, then do that. I don't care which but dang pick something and stick to it. 

 

The only reason a pick was made for you was because you PM'ed the pick to us. Crestmount did not, so we let him wait till his allotted time. I am sick and tired of this, to be honest. I did not make a pick you did not want, did I? That was what I did wrong with OffensivelyPC, at least that is what I thought.

 

When I said we will stick to an allotted time, it was meant only if the GM did not PM the pick ahead of time. Maybe I should clarify it now. Darned if I do, darned if I don't. 

 

Tell me, what is actually wrong with moving with the draft if I have your pick PM'ed to me? Some of you, in the name of being stickler for rules, are creating more issues than necessary. 

 

I am no longer going to be the commish of this draft. You sticklers are the ones zapping the fun out of this draft. This will be the last you will hear from me in this thread. 

[csmopar]

4 minutes ago, chad72 said:

 

The only reason a pick was made for you was because you PM'ed the pick to us. Crestmount did not, so we let him wait till his allotted time. I am sick and tired of this, to be honest. I did not make a pick you did not want, did I? That was what I did wrong with OffensivelyPC, at least that is what I thought.

 

When I said we will stick to an allotted time, it was meant only if the GM did not PM the pick ahead of time. Maybe I should clarify it now. Darned if I do, darned if I don't. 

 

Tell me, what is actually wrong with moving with the draft if I have your pick PM'ed to me? Some of you, in the name of being stickler for rules, are creating more issues than necessary. 

 

I am no longer going to be the commish of this draft. You sticklers are the ones zapping the fun out of this draft. This will be the last you will hear from me in this thread. 

So it's my fault for being confused since you keep changing the process/rules? I'm simply asking for clarification as to how things were. Because it seems to change multiple times per day. If asking for clarification and to be consistent is too much, go ahead and have someone else take over the Texans and Eagles. I'm done. Too damn confusing when the rules keep changing.

[SolidGold]

The real draft will be underway before this is over. People are asking for more time when it is already taking forever. It seems like before the draft started every GM was on the forum multiple times a day. Once the draft starts everyone seems to be really busy and has every excuse in the world. The commissioners job is difficult enough already. He shouldn't have to be the GM of your teams as well but when he is forced to do so it's pretty inconsiderate to complain when YOU didn't show up to do your job. Not trying to start a bickering war , im just being honest.

[NFLfan]

9 hours ago, chad72 said:

 

The only reason a pick was made for you was because you PM'ed the pick to us. Crestmount did not, so we let him wait till his allotted time. I am sick and tired of this, to be honest. I did not make a pick you did not want, did I? That was what I did wrong with OffensivelyPC, at least that is what I thought.

 

When I said we will stick to an allotted time, it was meant only if the GM did not PM the pick ahead of time. Maybe I should clarify it now. Darned if I do, darned if I don't. 

 

Tell me, what is actually wrong with moving with the draft if I have your pick PM'ed to me? Some of you, in the name of being stickler for rules, are creating more issues than necessary. 

 

I am no longer going to be the commish of this draft. You sticklers are the ones zapping the fun out of this draft. This will be the last you will hear from me in this thread. 

 

I agree but you should continue to participate. 

[NFLfan]

9 minutes ago, csmopar said:

So it's my fault for being confused since you keep changing the process/rules? I'm simply asking for clarification as to how things were. Because it seems to change multiple times per day. If asking for clarification and to be consistent is too much, go ahead and have someone else take over the Texans and Eagles. I'm done. Too damn confusing when the rules keep changing.

 

This was the first post of this thread:

 

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[SolidGold]

10 minutes ago, csmopar said:

So it's my fault for being confused since you keep changing the process/rules? I'm simply asking for clarification as to how things were. Because it seems to change multiple times per day. If asking for clarification and to be consistent is too much, go ahead and have someone else take over the Texans and Eagles. I'm done. Too damn confusing when the rules keep changing.

It keeps changing because GM's keep complaining about things they have control over. It's  easy , check in throughout the day , make your pick , if something comes up PM your pick. If you do none of the above don't complain. 

[csmopar]

Just now, SolidGold said:

It's keeps changing because GM's keep complaining about things they have control over. It's  easy , check in throughout the day , make your pick , if something comes up PM your pick. If you do none of the above don't complain. 

I did check in. I asked specifically and was told we were going to assigned times... but it's whatever, don't want to be the cause of drama so I'm bowing out of this mock. Carry on

[crazycolt1]

9 hours ago, csmopar said:

so im confused, are we back to sticking to the assigned times?

 

9 hours ago, crazycolt1 said:

I think we are back to the assigned times but now you will not go on the clock till that time.

If your pick is ready early we will move along.

This was explained to you last night. Sorry, you are the one confused.

[crazycolt1]

8 minutes ago, csmopar said:

I did check in. I asked specifically and was told we were going to assigned times... but it's whatever, don't want to be the cause of drama so I'm bowing out of this mock. Carry on

So what you are saying is none of us can pick earlier than our assigned time?  And when we do you want to whine?