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Just wondering what this Board thinks about the scenario where 3 QBs and Chubb and Nelson are picked in the first 5 selections of the first round. 

And the trade offers aren’t good enough: 

Do they take Barkley, Smith, Edmunds or someone else? 

Me, I’d take Barkley. Thoughts?

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9 hours ago, Hoose said:

Just wondering what this Board thinks about the scenario where 3 QBs and Chubb and Nelson are picked in the first 5 selections of the first round. 

And the trade offers aren’t good enough: 

Do they take Barkley, Smith, Edmunds or someone else? 

Me, I’d take Barkley. Thoughts?

 

My preference would be to trade back and in that scenario I believe there would be a couple of teams wanting to trade up.  If there is no trade, I am not a fan of taking a rb that high, but if Barkley is the highest player on Ballard's board then take him.

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9 hours ago, NewColtsFan said:

One of the linebackers....

 

Smith or Edmunds.

 

That would be my preference, but if it turns out to be Barkley I'll be perfectly fine with that.

 

I'm pretty much in that same boat.  I don't normally condone a RB that high, but in this case I could live with it.

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6 hours ago, stitches said:

I go :

1. trade back

2. Roquan or Edmunds

3. Minkah of James

4. Landry

 

Stitches I respect your opinion bro, as most times you are very knowledgable. But how can you take Landry over Barkley? I can slightly understand smith or edmunds but Landry? Ballard probally has him ranked in the 15 range and Barkley in the top three. This would be way off the bpa approach 

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8 minutes ago, boo2202 said:

Stitches I respect your opinion bro, as most times you are very knowledgable. But how can you take Landry over Barkley? I can slightly understand smith or edmunds but Landry? Ballard probally has him ranked in the 15 range and Barkley in the top three. This would be way off the bpa approach 

Positional value. Barkley is probably top 3 player in this draft. I just don't think RB provides the value required to be drafted this high. I also seem to like Landry better than most around here. As it happens I'm doing my big board right now and Barkley lands at no. 11 for me. I cannot stress this enough - this is a compliment to him, not a slight. Usually I don't rank RBs in the first at all. 

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7 hours ago, stitches said:

I go :

1. trade back

2. Roquan or Edmunds

3. Minkah or James

4. Landry

 

I am going to have to disagree with Minkah or James, because we already have two high quality safeties on the roster and Minkah isn’t going to make it as a CB in the league anyway, only a safety, and he wouldn’t fit our scheme at CB anyways. Landry, I am also high on, but I still have Barkley over him. I’d go....

 

1. Trade back

2. Ballards preference of LB or RB

3. Landry or Davenport

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7 minutes ago, WarGhost21 said:

 Minkah isn’t going to make it as a CB in the league anyway, only a safety, and he wouldn’t fit our scheme at CB anyways.

i think he would fit our scheme.  hes a zone corner if not playing safety

 

he could even fit better than ward, who i see as a man coverage guy 

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45 minutes ago, stitches said:

Positional value. Barkley is probably top 3 player in this draft. I just don't think RB provides the value required to be drafted this high. I also seem to like Landry better than most around here. As it happens I'm doing my big board right now and Barkley lands at no. 11 for me. I cannot stress this enough - this is a compliment to him, not a slight. Usually I don't rank RBs in the first at all. 

Man it would be hard to take Landry at six.  I think he's a good player but not six overall good. Still can't get the picture of Nelson and the Irish oline manhandling him for two players to get 200 yds rushing a piece. 

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I didn't like McAferey coming out last year and would never have drafted  him in the first round.  I thought he was second round talent based on his tape and my concerns.  Yes,  Barkley is better than Christian , but I see the same type of player.  I know I will get killed for this post hahaha.

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2 minutes ago, Moosejawcolt said:

I didn't like McAferey coming out last year and would never have drafted  him in the first round.  I thought he was second round talent based on his tape and my concerns.  Yes,  Barkley is better than Christian , but I see the same type of player.  I know I will get killed for this post hahaha.

At least you know it. Lol. Completely different players. Especially given Barkley has nearly 30lbs on CMC. Also I think CMC can be a stud but I agree he did go to high. I'd take Cook over him any day 

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4 minutes ago, Moosejawcolt said:

I know Barkley is much heavier.  I just see both as not playing with a lot of power. Guess wat I am trying to say is with Barkely's physical make up, he is  just underwhelming in moving the pile.

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2770090-is-saquon-barkley-really-a-generational-rb-talent.amp.html

I definitely see what you are saying. He's the top RB in the draft I would want with the ball on 3rd and long but definitely not the top RB I would want on 3rd and inches. But I don't see it as a huge issue because he's capable of pounding it in and definitely better than CMC. 

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17 hours ago, Hoose said:

Just wondering what this Board thinks about the scenario where 3 QBs and Chubb and Nelson are picked in the first 5 selections of the first round. 

And the trade offers aren’t good enough: 

Do they take Barkley, Smith, Edmunds or someone else? 

Me, I’d take Barkley. Thoughts?

 LB ..... you can find a RB later. 

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