Pat Kirwan Jim Miller mock #3 w/trades

[ColtsBlueFL]

So Pat Kirwan and Jim Miller put on a 3rd Mock draft yesterday.  They have talked to most players, and GM/Head Coaches of teams.  Scouted needs etc.  They each too alternating picks from their compiled lists for each team. I one chose a player they wanted, they had to go to next best players on list for that team.  They could trade, too.  And, Kirwan put on his be front office suit and put on the Dave Gettleman posture.  He had the G men trade all around (OBJ and #2 in separate deals), including with Colts. We move back to #9 and with more picks (#66 and #135).  Here is how first round went as I listened floating in my swimming pool here in SW FL...

 

Pat Kirwan and Jim Miller mock draft #3, w/trades

NY Giants trade OBJ to 49er's for draft pick #9!  NYG has #2 and #9 picks now.

1.  Cleveland takes- Josh Allen  
NY Giants, trade pick #2 to Broncos for their #5 and next year #1 (NYG have #5 and #9)
2.  Broncos take Sam Darnold
3.  Jets take Baker Mayfield (sorry Miami)
4.  Cleveland takes Saquon Barkley
5.  NY Giants take Quentin Nelson
NY Giants trade pick #9, #66, and #135 to Colts for pick #6
6.  NY Giants take Bradley Chubb
Bucs trade #7 to Bills for #12, #56, and #96
7.  Bills take Josh Rosen
8.  Bears take Denzel Ward
9.  Colts take Roquan Smith
10. Raiders take Minkah Fitzpatrick

11. Miami take Tremaine Edmunds
12. Bucs take Derwin James
13. Redskins take Vita Vea
Packers trade for Giants next year #1 pick, this year #34, #69, #108
14. NY Giants take Calvin Ridley
15. Cardinals take Lamr Jackson
16. Ravens take James Daniels
17. Chargers take Da'Ron Payne
18. Seahawks take Maurice Hurst Jr.
19. Cowboys take Davin Bryant
20. Lions take Derrius Guice

21. Bengals take Harold Landry
22. Bills take Mike McGlinchey
23. Patriots take Leighton Vander Esch
24. Panthers take Jaire Alexander
25. Titans take Marcus Davenport
26. Falcons take Harrison Phillips
27. Saints take Mike Gesicki
28. Steelers take Rashaan Evans
29. Jaguars take D.J. Moore
30. Vikings take Isaiah Wynn
31. Patriots take Conner Williams
32. Eagles 'fans boo' as they take DJ Chark

Colts had picks-
6, 36, 37, 49, 67, 104, 140, 178, 221 going in to their mock draft.

 

Then Kirwan says we trade and thus get-

9, 36, 37, 49, 66, 67, 104, 135, 140, 178, 221.  Kirwan had us take Roquan Smith at #9.  I'll post round 2 later. Thoughts?

[Fisticuffs111]

I know we're all about going for speed on defense, but I have a hard time seeing Ballard pass up on Chubb (or trading back) if he's there.

 

JMO of course. I do like Roquan at #9 though.

[WarGhost21]

I’d personally take Edmunds over Smith, but can’t argue this trade back. 

[MPStack]

Personally, I don't think I pass on Chubb, but that would be a nice haul of  picks and R. Smith would be awesome.

[LockeDown]

Wow, that's interesting.  

[boo2202]

Wow if this happend and your a giants fan you must be happy. They get Chubb, Nelson, and add picks. That's a homerun for them.

[Finball]

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Packers trade for Giants next year #1 pick, this year #34, #69, #108

 

That's one big gamble and potentially horrible trade for the Giants. At least keep it realistic (not shooting the messenger).

 

As for the Colts, I'm okay with it but I think I prefer Edmunds.

[SolidGold]

I'd take Edmunds over Smith.

[GuitarMD]

Roquan is awesome - as a weak side linebacker.

He has great instincts and could be a day 1 starter at Will.

 

Edmunds has awesome potential  and would probably be used as a strong side linebacker.

 

Edmunds will have a big learning curve and will most certainly make some rookie mistakes.

 

Both of these guys would make our team better.

 

[Boiler_Colt]

If we got 3 2nd rounders to move from 3 to 6, it will take a lot more than that to move from 6 to 9 especially with Chubb on the board.

[Track Guy]

If we traded down and were able to snag Roquan Smith, I can dig that. Especially if the best player in the draft, Quenton Nelson, is not available as in this scenario. 

 

My thought is I would've like to see us trade back up into round 1 in this scenario and snag his teammate Isaiah Wynn. He's not Quenton Nelson, but he's seriously good, and I believe he would help our team tremendously. 

 

In any event, the Giants made out like bandits in this mock draft (although I guess it costs them OBJ).

[Hoose]

The trade with the Giants is woefully inadequate. They’d have to pony up a lot more than that. 

[ColtsBlueFL]

6 hours ago, boo2202 said:

Wow if this happend and your a giants fan you must be happy. They get Chubb, Nelson, and add picks. That's a homerun for them.

 

Chubb, Nelson, and Ridley to replace OBJ. They lost other picks and next year #1

 

6 hours ago, Finball said:

 

That's one big gamble and potentially horrible trade for the Giants. At least keep it realistic (not shooting the messenger).

 

As for the Colts, I'm okay with it but I think I prefer Edmunds.

 

Kirwan was an Ex front office/personnel guy for Jets.  He has actually performed these calls/trades. We fans always want more than is offered.  I do as well. He is somewhat more realistic then we fans.

 

Smith projects as WILL for base D, but we will be in Nickel and Dime most of the time and he is a MIKE in that instance.

 

18 minutes ago, Hoose said:

The trade with the Giants is woefully inadequate. They’d have to pony up a lot more than that. 

 

Then the trade doesn't get done, we stay at 6 and Giants try to trade with Bucs etc...

 

I take it you want Chub, and forgo two extra picks and sliding down 3 spots?

[NFLfan]

17 hours ago, Finball said:

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Packers trade for Giants next year #1 pick, this year #34, #69, #108

 

That's one big gamble and potentially horrible trade for the Giants. At least keep it realistic (not shooting the messenger).

 

I agree. The is no way the Giants do that.