Giants Trade Pierre-Paul to Bucs [Merge]

[Indy Fan]

Just reported JPP and 4th round to Bucs for 3rd and 4th round picks.

[krunk]

Not a good sign to me.   I wonder if the Giants have their eyes on Chubb?

[TdungyW/12]

Just now, krunk said:

Not a good sign to me.   I wonder if the Giants have their eyes on Chubb?

Gosh damn it ..... this is exactly what I was thinking!!!! 

 

If if they do this it’ll screw up the entire draft order lol! But they need a QB More! 

[Barry Sears]

https://www.profootballrumors.com/2018/03/breaking-giants-trade-jason-pierre-paul-to-buccaneers

 

Are they going to draft Chubb at #2???

[Mr. Irrelevant]

Not good. 

[krunk]

 

Adam Schefter
(@AdamSchefter)

Now that the Giants have traded Jason Pierre-Paul to the Buccaneers, maybe they consider Bradley Chubb at No. 2.

 

https://nypost.com/2018/03/20/inside-giants-draft-thinking-which-is-leaning-away-from-a-qb/

[buccolts]

4 minutes ago, TdungyW/12 said:

Gosh damn it ..... this is exactly what I was thinking!!!! 

 

If if they do this it’ll screw up the entire draft order lol! But they need a QB More! 

Later, or next year?

Chubb SEEMS fairly obvious right now.

They told everyone they were comfy with Eli, and we're famous for ignoring what we're told, and acting shocked when they do what they told us........ Just ask Mr. Ballard.

[gacker65]

Sounds like Chubb is gone

[Boiler_Colt]

Chubb gone for sure. I wonder if Ballard knew this was the Giants plan when he decided to trade down.

[21isSuperman]

If Barkley goes #1 and Chubb goes #2, the Jets could look like geniuses for moving to #3 and being able to get any of the QBs they want.  Frankly, I'm not concerned.  There will still be plenty of good talent available at #6, and it could even leave the door open to another trade down.

[Fluke_33]

A blue chip talent will fall to 6.   Fitzpatrick would give us a great secondary.  

[austriancolt]

Quenton Nelson all the way baby. Just hope the Broncos don't draft him with their pick before...

[PeterBowman]

give the Bucs a "thumbs up" for pulling this off.

[21isSuperman]

Even if Chubb is gone, drafting Nelson at #6 would be a pretty great consolation prize.  There are tons of options available for Indy.

[buccolts]

1 minute ago, 21isSuperman said:

If Barkley goes #1 and Chubb goes #2, the Jets could look like geniuses for moving to #3 and being able to get any of the QBs they want.  Frankly, I'm not concerned.  There will still be plenty of good talent available at #6, and it could even leave the door open to another trade down.

 

It also bodes well for the Browns at 4, unless their heart is set on Darnold.

[Virtuoso80]

Looks like the draft picks are becoming more clear now.

[Jdubu]

This option seems to make the board fall out to us having Nelson as our choice or a trade with Buffalo perhaps. I’d take Nelson everyday here. 

[Yoshinator]

We can either be the big losers, or the big winners to come out of this, depending on what happens with the Broncos before us. I believe Ballard will take Nelson or trade down if he's gone now. The chances of Chubb being there if the Giants pick are almost 0 now IMO. Someone could trade up for a QB, but the options are trade down or take Nelson IMO now.

[krunk]

5 minutes ago, 21isSuperman said:

If Barkley goes #1 and Chubb goes #2, the Jets could look like geniuses for moving to #3 and being able to get any of the QBs they want.  Frankly, I'm not concerned.  There will still be plenty of good talent available at #6, and it could even leave the door open to another trade down.

I think Darnold is going #1

[JColts72]

Looks like Chubb to NYG, Now Nelson at 6 at least I hope.

[ColtJ82]

Pretty clear indicator there. I believe we will take Fitzpatrick. Too versatile and valuable to pass up. 

[Yoshinator]

Either way, with this trade happening, I think there will be a chain reaction soon. Someone will probably trade up with the Giants or Broncos, or the Broncos may just trade up with the Giants. However, this puts us in a tough spot as far as getting one of the top three non-qb prospects now.

[krunk]

Maybe a small chance Barkley could be around at our pick.

[Yoshinator]

Just now, krunk said:

Maybe a small chance Barkley could be around at our pick.

I disagree, almost 100% see Barkley going to the Browns at 4.

[Indy Fan]

Yeah, definitely is going to be interesting! I could see another trade down with the Bills now if they pony up more.

[Defjamz26]

I still wonder if the Bills trade up to 2 with NY. But if Chubb is gone, I’ll take Tremaine Edmunds. Sam Hubbard in the 2nd round or just wait until 2019. Nick Bosa and Clelin Ferrell will be available.

[Defjamz26]

Time to re-do my mock draft again.

[Fisticuffs111]

I still think the Giants are going QB. Even their fans don't think this means they're drafting Chubb.

They think this is just a cap saving move, he was on a terrible contract, to make space for re-signing Collins and OBJ. Plus they're switching to a 3-4, not exactly Chubb's best fit. Not to mention the Giants brass has seemingly been courting Josh Rosen pretty hard.

[Yoshinator]

At this point:

1.) Darnold

2.) Chubb

3.) Rosen

4.) Barkley

5.) Nelson/QB

6.) Nelson/wildcard/trade down

 

this is pretty accurate IMO as of now.

[Mel Kiper's Hair]

This could be one of the most active drafts ever! Some must see TV for sure. These moves make being a football fan fun. I don't know about anyone else, but I am loving the unpredictability.

[krunk]

7 minutes ago, Jared Cisneros said:

I disagree, almost 100% see Barkley going to the Browns at 4.

You never know

[Yoshinator]

Different type of question. I think Ballard said in his interview that there was a drop off after the first 8-10 players and that included QB's. Would anyone here be upset if Ballard took his top ranked guy out of Ward, Edmunds, or Roquan Smith if the top 3 prospects were all gone?

[rockywoj]

Definitely makes it more likely that the Giants select Chubb at # 2, unless they trade out of that spot.

[Boiler_Colt]

8 minutes ago, Fisticuffs111 said:

I still think the Giants are going QB. Even their fans don't think this means they're going to draft Chubb.

They think this is just a cap saving move, he was on a terrible contract, to make space for re-signing Collins and OBJ. Plus they're switching to a 3-4, not exactly Chubb's best fit.

Are they for sure switching to a 3-4? I had wondered about that since they got Bettcher as their DC. Chubb wouldn't be the best fit for that. I still think Buffalo will offer them a haul to try to move up. We'll see if the Giants bite.

[PeterBowman]

if there's a QB taken at 2(Giants, or a trade up), then Colts will be in good shape to get Chubb or Nelson.

[WarGhost21]

Not a big deal, really. Even if Chubb is taken, next years class of pass rushers are much better than this years, and there is more high end, blue chip talent. Just grab BPA at 6 and take one of the pass rushers next season!

[Cynjin]

14 minutes ago, Jared Cisneros said:

Either way, with this trade happening, I think there will be a chain reaction soon. Someone will probably trade up with the Giants or Broncos, or the Broncos may just trade up with the Giants. However, this puts us in a tough spot as far as getting one of the top three non-qb prospects now.

 

I don't know why the Giants would be trading out of #2 now.

[DaveA1102]

I don't think we need to get into panic mode here.  No matter what, we are in an excellent position at 6, even if we don't get Chubb.

 

Nelson would be a great addition at a massive position of need.  I still think Barkley will be off the board at 6.

 

The other option, if Barkley, Chubb and Nelson are all gone, we would be in a phenomenal position to move back for a team that would be willing to sell the farm for one of the remaining QB's.  We could collect a vast amount of draft capital in the first three rounds for this year and next and add some starters at so many positions of need. 

 

There is even an argument for if Barkley is at #6, we can trade back for teams that want him as that generational talent, but likely not the same haul as if QB there.

[krunk]

17 minutes ago, Fisticuffs111 said:

I still think the Giants are going QB. Even Giants fans don't think this means that they're going to draft Chubb.

They think this is just a cap saving move, he was on a terrible contract, to make space for re-signing Collins and OBJ. Plus they're switching to a 3-4, not exactly Chubb's best fit.

who said they are going 3-4?

[Defjamz26]

2 minutes ago, DaveA1102 said:

I don't think we need to get into panic mode here.  No matter what, we are in an excellent position at 6, even if we don't get Chubb.

 

Nelson would be a great addition at a massive position of need.  I still think Barkley will be off the board at 6.

 

The other option, if Barkley, Chubb and Nelson are all gone, we would be in a phenomenal position to move back for a team that would be willing to sell the farm for one of the remaining QB's.  We could collect a vast amount of draft capital in the first three rounds for this year and next and add some starters at so many positions of need. 

 

There is even an argument for if Barkley is at #6, we can trade back for teams that want him as that generational talent, but likely not the same haul as if QB there.

Not sure Nelson makes it past Denver.