Jump to content
Indianapolis Colts
Indianapolis Colts Fan Forum

Why does it seem the Colts are anxious to sign a Center


indyagent17

Recommended Posts

23 minutes ago, crazycolt1 said:

I understand that. But there is nothing to do about it till we see how long it will take.

There is no quick gratification in rebuilding a team.

I understand it is tough.  

The thing with Luck is that he can make a mediocre team have a decent record.    That's why I would have liked to see Ballard do more in free agency while still building through the draft.   Not even Luck could get this current team to 10 wins.  

Link to comment
Share on other sites

5 minutes ago, Myles said:

I understand it is tough.  

The thing with Luck is that he can make a mediocre team have a decent record.    That's why I would have liked to see Ballard do more in free agency while still building through the draft.   Not even Luck could get this current team to 10 wins.  

the current team is actually really bad.  defense was bad last year and we let two of our best players go.  we need to add multiple starters on the line and line backers.

 

on offense, the oline is as bad as ever. skill positions are weak outside of ty

 

i dont like how we are going to rely on rookies for so much

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

38 minutes ago, aaron11 said:

the current team is actually really bad.  defense was bad last year and we let two of our best players go.  we need to add multiple starters on the line and line backers.

 

on offense, the oline is as bad as ever. skill positions are weak outside of ty

 

i dont like how we are going to rely on rookies for so much

 

Yeah, we are a couple years away from competing.   We are way too thin at almost every position.   WR really worries me.  

Link to comment
Share on other sites

On ‎3‎/‎19‎/‎2018 at 1:38 AM, NewColtsFan said:

 

I'm sorry,  but this is a complete misunderstanding....

 

In one of our later posts here,  you provide two links and one says rounds 1-2 and the other says mid-1 to high 2.

 

Mid first is in the teens.   Ryan Kelly was drafted at 18.

 

And still....   the write-ups are just the write-ups of people who do this on-line.   Some are good and some are less good.

 

The ONLY evaluations that count are the the ones made by the 32 NFL teams.    And NONE of the 32 look alike.

Some might've had Kelly graded in the Mid-First.    Some might have him in the low first.   And some might've had him in the high second.     One of the things that is a trueism of the draft...    any draft in any sport is that everyone sees the same thing differently.     Seriously,  they're not operating from some master list that everyone uses.    32 teams,  32 different Big Boards where players are listed in order of preference.

 

Ryan Kelly was not only the top Center of the draft,  he was one of the top Center's drafted in the last few years leading up to his draft. 

 

Kelly performed like a first round pick his first year.    His second year was mostly lost to injury.     I don't think the Colts have any regrets with the decision to draft him.    I'm not sure why you're arguing Kelly was a reach when the evidence you provided doesn't really say that?

 

I am unsure what you are reading as both links provided have him as a cusp 2nd round talent?  18 isn't cusp 2nd round?  He was a reach and anyone who thinks that a top 20 pick is worthy of a Center or Guard is only fooling themselves as impact positions should be chosen in this range....

 

I also find it funny that some people are willing to give Kelly, and to a greater degree Anderson, a pass for their injuries...but were unwilling to give Moncrief the same, and he provided much more to Indy?  Not saying you my Friend but some do just that...

 

Anyway, sorry for the late reply as this is my busy season building homes down here in south Florida, I hope you are well?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

On ‎3‎/‎19‎/‎2018 at 12:27 AM, rockywoj said:

My recollection differs with your recollection of Kelly’s projected selection spot.  I clearly remember him being projected as a mid first round selection.  Not once do I recall any reputable projections having him fall to the 2nd round.  I still think of him as the perfect melding of need with BPA.  The injury problems of last year are unfortunate, but do not change my endorsement of him being the correct pick.

 

We usually seem to be agreement on things, so I am still always surprised that we disagree on the priority of building the OL with premium picks.  I advocate building from the trenches out and I simply don’t see my opinion on that changing.

I provided links and appreciate your opinion....we just differ and that is okay.  I just don't think a top 20 pick should be used on a Center or Guard...but what do I know, I build homes for a living, not pro football teams:D

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Popular Now

  • Thread of the Week

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • My sleepers: (meaning, the kind of players coaches would like to have, more than what consensus big board gives credit to them. Some of them might need couple of years to attain their high potential, if drafted into suitable coaching environment, so a lot depends on that. Some of them have injury concerns too).   Most of them are high IQ players or high-effort, high-motor players - two traits I look for from the Drafted players, list is long but I like these guys.. gonna be interesting to see where they land and how it works out for them in long run.    Payton Wilson, LB, NC State Caelen Carson, CB, Wake Forest Kiran Amegadjie, OT, Yale Maason Smith, IDL, LSU Christian Mahogany, OG, Boston College Max Melton, CB, Rutgers Zak Zinter, OG, Michigan Bucky Irving, RB, Oregon Khyree Jackson, CB Oregon Dylan McMahon, C, NC State (good fit for Browns)  Tykee Smith, SAF, Georgia Ainias Smith, WR, Texas A&M Cam Hart, CB, Notre Dame Michael Barrett, LB Michigan Malachi Corley, WR, Western Kentucky Beaux Limmer, IOL, Arkansas   Kamren Kinchens, S, Miami McKinnley Jackson, IDL, Texas A&M Kalen King, CB, Penn State Justin Eboigbe, IDL, Alabama    Jacob Cowing, WR, Arizona Beau Brade, SAF, Maryland Isaac Guerendo, RB, Louisville Jalyx Hunt, EDGE, Houston Christian (I'm hoping for day 3 Vikings pickup, as Flores could work wonders with him)  Jaheim Bell, TE, Florida State Brennan Jackson, EDGE, Washington State  Delmar Glaze, OT, Maryland Myles Cole, EDGE, Texas Tech Kristian Boyd, DT, Northern Iowa Javontae Jean-Baptiste, DL, Notre Dame Jordan Magee, LB, Temple Myles Harden, CB, South Dakota Jalen Green, EDGE, James Madison (UDFA Target prospect)  Trey Taylor, S, Air Force (UDFA prospect) Eyabi Okie-Anoma, EDGE, Charlotte Qwan'tez Stiggers, CB, Toronto  Sundiata Anderson, EDGE, Grambling State  Daequan Hardy, CB, Penn State (Special Teams, Returner)  Emani Bailey, RB, TCU   As for Vikings, I don't wanna rush to draft QB if the team isn't confident in the guys they could move up in draft range, and I'd like to just draft impact players that build the roster at this point.   Build the team, draft a franchise QB at right time, don't rush and ruin years trying to make someone work out in the NFL. 
    • If you are relying upon history, does accuracy matter?  I think the reason Smith ended up at RT is because the coaches tried him there out of necessity and he played well, and stayed there due to the coaches wishes.  I don't think that FO guys had much to say about it, because Smith was in fact drafted to be a G, not the RT.  Ballard's own words after day 2 of that draft was that they drafted Smith a bit higher than they had him ranked, because he was the "last remaining starting caliber G on the board".   So it does fit that Smith was not drafted by Ballard or the FO to be a RT...in part because of the measurables and arm length.   Also directing this response to @Matthew Gilbert
    • Same. And that's because over time that level of depth eventually decays. 
    • I don't think players like Davis (and especially Bryan, who I don't think will make the final 53) should impact our draft strategy at all. Not even a little bit. If we like Byron Murphy, figure out what to do with those other guys later. The other versatile guys you mention don't scratch the itch the way Murphy would be expected to -- he should be looked at as a disruptive 3T who plays there every down, not a matchup guy or passing downs guy.    If anything, maybe it's the other way around. The Colts already had a feel for the DTs in draft class and knew they wouldn't get what they want in the draft, so they addressed the position in free agency. And after this weekend, that might help people better understand the strategy at DB and WR...    The bolded really gets at the heart of it. I like Murphy, but I'm not offering him as a great player that you just have to take a chance on. But when it comes to draft strategy, I think taking the best players is the way to go. I'm directly opposed to needs-based drafting, and to passing on a really good prospect because you have backup level veterans already on the roster. 
    • I suppose Murphy being the next Donald is possible, but I wouldn’t think it’s likely.     As for Smith playing right tackle, I believe I was simply echoing Ballard’s initial viewpoint.  That Smith’s short arms made him an unlikely RT.  And that he had to be talked into it by Morocco Brown and Ed Dodds.   I don’t think I was stating MY personal view.    As for skillset vs measurements.  I think it’s been an issue for all of us because Ballard has such specific requirements for each position.  So we factor that into our judgements. 
  • Members

    • ChuggaBeer

      ChuggaBeer 1,756

      Senior Member
      Joined:
      Last active:
    • DynaMike

      DynaMike 153

      Member
      Joined:
      Last active:
    • boo2202

      boo2202 672

      Member
      Joined:
      Last active:
    • VikingsFanInChennai

      VikingsFanInChennai 2,990

      Senior Member
      Joined:
      Last active:
    • Hark

      Hark 978

      Senior Member
      Joined:
      Last active:
    • John Hammonds

      John Hammonds 4,928

      Senior Member
      Joined:
      Last active:
    • ShuteAt168

      ShuteAt168 961

      Member
      Joined:
      Last active:
    • B~Town

      B~Town 311

      Senior Member
      Joined:
      Last active:
    • stitches

      stitches 19,313

      Senior Member
      Joined:
      Last active:
    • C0LT5

      C0LT5 86

      Member
      Joined:
      Last active:
×
×
  • Create New...