Jump to content
Indianapolis Colts
Indianapolis Colts Fan Forum

CB Phillip Gaines to visit Colts


Fisticuffs111

Recommended Posts

Just now, HectorRoberts said:

I was so excited at first I thought it said E.J. Gaines...

 

Yeah, I thought the same too. He played pretty darn well opposite Tre'Davious White.

 

However, the Patriots are notorious for signing gems of divisional opponents - Chris Hogan, Stephon Gilmore, Wes Welker, to name a few, and he might end up another one, I am hearing, to replace Malcolm Butler. :( 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Philip Gaines is the guy I remember Peyton picking on along with that Fleming CB guy with the Chiefs when Peyton was playing for the Broncos in 2014. They were mainly avoiding Marcus Peters' side and picking on whoever was on the other side. 

 

Can someone tell me who was the Chiefs CB that fought for the ball vs Moncrief to come up with an INT vs Luck when the Chiefs came here to LOS? That was the game Nick Foles filled in for Alex Smith.

 

Does anyone remember?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

52 minutes ago, csmopar said:

Gotta say, this is the first FA prospect that has me truly shaking my head.  Wasn't that great and with injury histories. Yikes.

 

I seriously doubt he's being brought in for anything else other than a special teams role. He's not beating out Quincy Wilson or Pierre Desir for a starting job LOL.

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 minutes ago, Steamboat_Shaun said:

 

I seriously doubt he's being brought in for anything else other than a special teams role. He's not beating out Quincy Wilson or Pierre Desir for a starting job LOL.

I think Desir is an Unrestricted Free Agent. Currently, he’s not a Colt.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

29 minutes ago, krunk said:

He could be good depth. Also the Chiefs play a lot of man coverage. We are a zone team. Gaines could be a better zone player.

That could definitely be his problem. Nnamdi Asomugha was THE top man corner and was completely embarrassed when he went to Philly and played in their zone scheme. Not to say Gaines is anywhere near that level, but just to illustrate how much a scheme can make or break a CB.

 

His NFL.com draft profile:

Strengths

Nice length. Terrific timed speed, blazing sub-4.4 times at the combine. Can be deployed in zone coverage. Plays the pocket. Good production on the ball, with 35 passes defended the last two seasons. Tough and competitive. Is hardworking and well respected by coaches and teammates. Recorded second-quickest three-cone drill among cornerbacks at the combine (6.62 seconds).

Weaknesses

Durability is a concern. Has been dinged up. Underdeveloped and underpowered. Does not play to timed speed. Not equipped to handle man-to-man responsibility. Poor run supporter and tackler. Does not project as a core special-teams player. Tweener traits.

Bottom Line

Lean, active zone corner whose ball skills will have to carry him. Could earn a roster spot on pure measurables but lacks desirable functional speed, strength and physicality.


-Nolan Nawrocki
  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

7 minutes ago, Shive said:

 

 

His NFL.com draft profile:

Bottom Line

Lean, active zone corner whose ball skills will have to carry him. Could earn a roster spot on pure measurables but lacks desirable functional speed, strength and physicality.


-Nolan Nawrocki


We think alike, was just about to post this.

Sounds like @krunk could be right, he could do better in a zone based defense. At the very least, seems like an okay depth option since at this point we just need bodies.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

17 minutes ago, Steamboat_Shaun said:

 

I seriously doubt he's being brought in for anything else other than a special teams role. He's not beating out Quincy Wilson or Pierre Desir for a starting job LOL.

Desir isn't even on the team so what are you saying

Link to comment
Share on other sites

9 minutes ago, Gabriel Alexander Morillo said:

Oh man. You guys that are banking on him randomly being good in a zone shame despite him sucking the big one in Man are a special kind of Optimistic lol 


I'm not acting like he's gonna come here and play at a starter level or even close to it. All I'm saying is that he might be better, meaning not terrible, in a zone based defense.

Besides we're so thin at CB that we just need bodies at this point.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

33 minutes ago, krunk said:

Something tells me there's something going on with EJ Gaines pricing because nobody has been calling him in for visits. Wouldn't surprise me if that's our issue on him.

 

I can understand this either. Himself and White were one of the top CB duos in the league last year. I mean EJ Gaines was rated the 13 best CB in the league last year by PFF. Would be a great pick up. 

 

Im not high on this Gaines though.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, chad72 said:

Philip Gaines is the guy I remember Peyton picking on along with that Fleming CB guy with the Chiefs when Peyton was playing for the Broncos in 2014. They were mainly avoiding Marcus Peters' side and picking on whoever was on the other side. 

 

Can someone tell me who was the Chiefs CB that fought for the ball vs Moncrief to come up with an INT vs Luck when the Chiefs came here to LOS? That was the game Nick Foles filled in for Alex Smith.

 

Does anyone remember?

Philip Gaines was the one who ripped the ball away from Moncrief. He’s terribke though, ranked second worst CB last year by PFF

Link to comment
Share on other sites

42 minutes ago, krunk said:

Something tells me there's something going on with EJ Gaines pricing because nobody has been calling him in for visits. Wouldn't surprise me if that's our issue on him.

I saw somewhere that DRC is waiting until April to start taking offers, so I'm assuming he wants to wait til after the draft to leverage a team with a CB need that wasn't able to fill it in the draft. Gaines may be doing the same if nobody wants to sign him for what he thinks he's worth right now. It's a gamble to do that though..

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Thread of the Week

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • I can too. And that will tell us everything we need to know about how the view him. It will tell us their feelings on the tight end room, and what direction they pick from there will tell us even more.    but if they take him at 15, we won’t know much about what might have happened, as they will be landing someone they had rated highly and fell to them. 
    • Glad that’s over…    if I wanted to argue about it, I would have responded far more in depth than pointing out how you were attempting to gaslight me. I did not. Meaning I was ending my part of whatever the argument was. You “putting a finality to it” and then listing bullet points tells me it was the argument you wanted all along, which makes sense why you brought Grigson up in the first place. Bait, hook, gaslight. Almost got me buddy. You are a funny guy, Doug 
    • Putting a finality on an argument you want to have.   There is a theory that Ballard won't draft a OL high because ARs injuries were not caused by a poor oline.  I felt it important to note that since Luck's major injuries were also not caused by his oline, Ballard could still want to improve it like he did in 2018 simply because AR is The Franchise. And its important to point that out because there has been a running (false) narrative for about 9 years that Luck's oline was the (main) reason for his injuries that kept him out of games.  The (false) narrative is based upon, IMO, a detest of Grigson, and not reality about the facts (or strong rumors) behind the kidney laceration and snowboarding shoulder. Therefore, mentioning Grigson and the (false) narrative was germain to the point about Ballard possibly drafting Oline high this draft to protect AR. Mentioning Grigson shouldn't trigger a CB vs RG discussion, unless people reading it are gaslighted by their own reading lens.
    • That is a very inaccurate description of what happened.  At this point it’s history and doesn’t need to be revisited but I will say Chloe adds value to this board and should be and is by most encouraged to post, even if people don’t always agree with her.  
    • My response was in regards to another posted suggesting that the Colts need to get the pick right when it comes to picking a WR. I agree with you .
  • Members

    • Moosejawcolt

      Moosejawcolt 5,180

      Senior Member
      Joined:
      Last active:
    • IndyEV

      IndyEV 81

      Member
      Joined:
      Last active:
    • coltsfanej

      coltsfanej 738

      Senior Member
      Joined:
      Last active:
    • throwing BBZ

      throwing BBZ 3,738

      Senior Member
      Joined:
      Last active:
    • ColtStrong2013

      ColtStrong2013 3,482

      Senior Member
      Joined:
      Last active:
    • krunk

      krunk 8,302

      Senior Member
      Joined:
      Last active:
    • indyagent17

      indyagent17 1,785

      Senior Member
      Joined:
      Last active:
    • Hawkeyecolt

      Hawkeyecolt 1,028

      Senior Member
      Joined:
      Last active:
    • DougDew

      DougDew 8,951

      Senior Member
      Joined:
      Last active:
    • Powerslave

      Powerslave 52

      New Member
      Joined:
      Last active:
×
×
  • Create New...