Ian Rapoport: Colts coaching search down to McDaniels or Vrabel

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I thought this is kind of big so I am making a separate thread about it. 

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000905745/article/where-things-stand-for-cardinals-colts-giants-lions-vacancies

 

 

 

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Indianapolis Colts

 

Indianapolis has narrowed its search to two candidates: Patriotsoffensive coordinator Josh McDaniels and Texans defensive coordinator Mike Vrabel. The plan is to gather intel this weekend, meet, then proceed on Monday with either second interviews or simply by making a choice. McDaniels figures to be the front-runner, in part because if it was Vrabel the Colts would have made a move already. Based on the relationship between GM Chris Ballard and McDaniels, as well as McDaniels' prowess with the quarterback position, McDaniels has long been in the lead. The only issue is, the hire may not be made until early February.

 

 

 

 

Thoughts? 

[IndyD4U]

I just came here to post this. 

 

I'm in the McDaniel's fanclub. Sounds like Monday may be the day we at least have an idea. 

[adubb84]

I’m all for Mcdaniels. That snippet already explains why it’s going to be him. Vrabel is ready and available for hire right now. 

 

Only worrisome part is the pats going on a run and not finalizing things until February.  Hoping he already has his coordinators lined up

[UKColt13]

Both good options!

 

McDaniels brings the offensive expertise.

But Vrabel brings the intensity and leadership. As long as he brings in a good OC I’m good with this.

[GoDeep]

I like it. Both have kicked our butts for some time.

 

[Case]

Better not be Vrabel. Sounds like the exact same situation Pagano was in when we hired him

[#12.]

Maybe Vrabel's a great interview.  We have no idea.

 

Or, maybe as others have speculated, he's the next assistant head coach.  

[1959Colts]

Here is my theory that the Colts HC decision will play out between three candidates. 

 

McDaniels

Vrabel

Patricia (indirectly)

 

The article by Rapoport says the Colts are down to McDaniels or Vrabel.

He mentions McDaniels is in the mix for the Giants as is Patricia.

The Lions seem to prefer Patricia but Vrabel is their other option.

 

If the Colts want Vrabel he could sign with us at any time, so if Vrabel is the man they want it's possible he signs soon...

 

However, if the Colts prefer McDaniels we have to wait, and then the Giants may compete with us.

 

So assuming the Giants first choice ends up being McDaniels (over Patricia)...

Once NE is done playing, it would come down to McDaniels to either Indy or NY

 

If McDaniels then chooses NY

Detroit then would be able to get Patricia and the Colts end up with Vrabel.

[Fluke_33]

If this is true I’ll take vrabel.  He sounds like a real leader.   It may be early for him to be an hc but they can get the right oc and dc for that support.  

 

I worry that McDaniels can’t hold a team together when the it hits the fan. 

[#12.]

Belichick's assistants have failed as head coaches.  Maybe the key is to hire one of his players.  

[BleedBlue4Shoe86]

I feel like I can’t argue with either choice. I see positives in both. 

 

McDaniels:

-hell of a play caller

-did great things with Orton in Denver

-seems to have really learned from his mistakes in Denver

-Relationship with Dungy

-Coached Bradford, Brady, Brissett, Jimmy G, Cassell

 

Vrabel

-leader of men

-well respected

-coached under Belichick, Urban Meyer, Romeo Crennel and Bill OBrien

-coached Dline, linebackers and D Coordiantor

 

lol, I may have just talked myself into Vrabel. Who knows. Truly would be happy with either. 

[Crunked]

46 minutes ago, stitches said:

I thought this is kind of big so I am making a separate thread about it. 

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000905745/article/where-things-stand-for-cardinals-colts-giants-lions-vacancies

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thoughts? 

So our choices are between a current Pats coach or a former Pat player.....It feels a little wrong lol

 

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[TheRustonRifle#7]

17 minutes ago, BleedBlue4Shoe86 said:

I feel like I can’t argue with either choice. I see positives in both. 

 

McDaniels:

-hell of a play caller

-did great things with Orton in Denver

-seems to have really learned from his mistakes in Denver

-Relationship with Dungy

-Coached Bradford, Brady, Brissett, Jimmy G, Cassell

 

Vrabel

-leader of men

-well respected

-coached under Belichick, Urban Meyer, Romeo Crennel and Bill OBrien

-coached Dline, linebackers and D Coordiantor

 

lol, I may have just talked myself into Vrabel. Who knows. Truly would be happy with either. 

 

I have similar feelings.

[Fisticuffs111]

I really hope it's not Vrabel. Don't think he's ready at all.

6 years of coaching. 1 as a DC. I don't really want our next HC's best trait to be "a leader of men." And that seems like his best trait by far. 

When people describe him as a coach I envision Pagano, pretty much.

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[coltsva]

No to Vrabel. I want consistency with the offense and not have to worry about replacing the OC if/when we have success. 

[BOTT]

7 minutes ago, Fisticuffs111 said:

Man, I really don't want Vrabel. Don't think he's ready at all.

6 years of coaching. 1 as a DC. I don't really want our next HC's best trait to be "a leader of men." And that seems like his best trait by far. 

When people describe him as a coach I envision Pagano, pretty much.

I don't think Vrabel is dumb 

[coltsva]

22 minutes ago, crunked said:

So our choices are between a current Pats coach or a former Pat player.....It feels a little wrong lol

 

It does, but winning can right a lot of wrongs.

[Fisticuffs111]

5 minutes ago, BOTT said:

I don't think Vrabel is dumb 

We'd sure find out if he was our next HC though.

[Dr. T]

Apparently there is a connection between McDaniels and Ballard: they share the same agent. 

[Shadow_Creek]

1 minute ago, Dr. T said:

Apparently there is a connection between McDaniels and Ballard: they share the same agent. 

i didnt know GMs had Agents 

[Dr. T]

28 minutes ago, stitches said:

 

 

Why can't we have both?

McDaniels: HC

Vrabel: Assistant HC and DC

AND keep Shotty for the OC

[MarquisJ]

it’s mcdaniels job 

[Buddy Lee]

I think in the end it will be McDaniels.  The unfortunate thing is he will be at a disadvantage hiring assistant coaches so late in the game. We need assistants who can develop young players.

[1959Colts]

2 minutes ago, MarquisJ said:

it’s mcdaniels job 

But what if McDaniels decides on the Giants over Colts?

[richard pallo]

Vrabel is also a candidate in Detroit.  They might move on Vrabel if they think Patricia would choose the Giants over them especially knowing he's a finalist here.  Rap also mentioned we could add another guy.  I guess that's where Toub could come back into the picture.  I know it appears McDaniels is the frontrunner but the fact that two names have emerged tells me Ballard has clearly not made up his mind 100%. 

[maxgamestate]

Josh McDaniels will be available about 10:45 pm on Saturday night after the Titans win

[1959Colts]

If the Colts hire Vrabel, it would be vital to get a good offensive coordinator.

Who would that be?

[Fisticuffs111]

1 minute ago, 1959Colts said:

If the Colts hire Vrabel, it would be vital to get a good offensive coordinator.

Who would that be?

It'd probably be vital to get a good DC with Vrabel too, tbh.

[csmopar]

Well I'm not sure how much to take this with. Rapport is pretty reliable but the way the Colts have kept things quiet, makes me wonder the validity of this

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16 minutes ago, Dr. T said:

 

Why can't we have both?

McDaniels: HC

Vrabel: Assistant HC and DC

AND keep Shotty for the OC

HC: McDaniels

DC: Vrabel

OC: Schottenheimer

ST: Toub

 

[Yoshinator]

2 minutes ago, csmopar said:

Well I'm not sure how much to take this with. Rapport is pretty reliable but the way the Colts have kept things quiet, makes me wonder the validity of this

With us not hiring Wilks, nagy, and the Baylor coach (forgot his name), this seems pretty valid that these could be our last two coaching candidates. Things leak out, that's the way it is these days in the social media world. It makes perfect sense since McDaniels can't be hired yet and Vrabel hasn't been hired yet either.

[Indeee]

HC: Josh

DC: Kris Richard

OC: Mike McCoy

ST: Toub

[1959Colts]

Real risky move if we end up going with Vrabel at HC and Schottenheimer as his OC.

yikes

[Indeee]

Just now, 1959Colts said:

Real risky move if we end up going with Vrabel at HC and Schottenheimer as his OC.

yikes

That's not happening

[#12.]

17 minutes ago, 1959Colts said:

If the Colts hire Vrabel, it would be vital to get a good offensive coordinator.

Who would that be?

 

You're right, we had an elite passing game and offense in 2016, but we need be smarter on offense, protect Luck better and run the ball better.

 

That said, in general the offense is good enough to win games, so if it is Vrabel, maybe he becomes who you had hoped Chuck would be.  Luck and the offense return to form and Vrabel gets the defense in order.

[csmopar]

5 minutes ago, Jared Cisneros said:

With us not hiring Wilks, nagy, and the Baylor coach (forgot his name), this seems pretty valid that these could be our last two coaching candidates. Things leak out, that's the way it is these days in the social media world. It makes perfect sense since McDaniels can't be hired yet and Vrabel hasn't been hired yet either.

And if McDaniels chooses the Giants?

[Colts_Fan12]

Great news let's get it done with McDaniels 

[Horse Shoe Heaven]

1 minute ago, 1959Colts said:

Real risky move if we end up going with Vrabel at HC and Schottenheimer as his OC.

yikes

Could live with that!