Chuck's Presser Today

[Steamboat_Shaun]

Did anyone else catch this? Not sure how to describe it other than it seems that Chuck has completely accepted his fate at this point.

 

https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/nfl/colts/2017/11/27/chuck-pagano-really-loosens-up-news-conference/899482001/

[deedub75]

He’s either accepted his fate or he’s already been given a free pass on this season. 

[dw49]

12 minutes ago, Steamboat_Shaun said:

Did anyone else catch this? Not sure how to describe it other than it seems that Chuck has completely accepted his fate at this point.

 

https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/nfl/colts/2017/11/27/chuck-pagano-really-loosens-up-news-conference/899482001/

 

Sounded like a guy totally frustrated with the world of NFL football. I'm no fan of Pagano's on field coaching but pretty hard to blame him for the 3-8 record. Young team , terrible O line and Brissett is a hot mess when pressured.

[dw49]

Just now, deedub75 said:

He’s either accepted his fate or he’s already been given a free pass on this season. 

 

 

Pretty certain no free pass and he's good as gone.

[dodsworth]

His dumbness is hard to take even if he could regularly field

12 win teams. His lame jokes and excuses aren't funny with only 3

wins in the W column.

 

I'm so ready to move on from this guy even though injuries and

the roster are part of the problem.

[crazycolt1]

13 minutes ago, dw49 said:

 

 

Pretty certain no free pass and he's good as gone.

That is what 90% of this forum said last season too.

[crazycolt1]

2 minutes ago, dodsworth said:

His dumbness is hard to take even if he could regularly field

12 win teams. His lame jokes and excuses aren't funny with only 3

wins in the W column.

 

I'm so ready to move on from this guy even though injuries and

the roster are part of the problem.

Dumbness? Really ? You may question his coaching but calling him dumb?  Just remember when you point a finger and call someone dumb there is three pointing back.

[dw49]

14 minutes ago, crazycolt1 said:

That is what 90% of this forum said last season too.

 

 

I don't know about that 90% figure. Did you actually go back and calculate that ? I'm certain he's going to be replaced and I'll stick by that regardless of what the board thought last year. BTW .. I really didn't have strong feelings on last year . So am I one of the 10% that was right ?

[buccolts]

9 minutes ago, dw49 said:

 

 

I don't know about that 90% figure. Did you actually go back and calculate that ? I'm certain he's going to be replaced and I'll stick by that regardless of what the board thought last year. BTW .. I really didn't have strong feelings on last year . So am I one of the 10% that was right ?

 

No, you were part of the 10% who didn't have strong feelings on it last year.

[2006Coltsbestever]

I want Harbaugh, we win the Division with him and Luck and that is common sense.

[jameszeigler834]

48 minutes ago, deedub75 said:

He’s either accepted his fate or he’s already been given a free pass on this season. 

I just cant see how you can look past this terrible season Brissett has been fairly good a QB the colts can win football games with and under his direction cant finish games no has to go.

[crazycolt1]

12 minutes ago, dw49 said:

 

 

I don't know about that 90% figure. Did you actually go back and calculate that ? I'm certain he's going to be replaced and I'll stick by that regardless of what the board thought last year. BTW .. I really didn't have strong feelings on last year . So am I one of the 10% that was right ?

No I didn't go back and calculate it. Does it really mean that much to you for me to guess or be exact?

Look, most all thought Grigson and Pagano both were going to be fired. It didn't happen so we can all have an opinion what we think will happen but reality tells us we don't know.

All that Irsay has said is Pagano's record would not be the determining factor in him being fired or retained. There is one thing I do know about Irsay after all these years is he does things his way and what he thinks is best for his team regardless of what the fans think.

[OLD FAN MAN]

56 minutes ago, dw49 said:

 

Sounded like a guy totally frustrated with the world of NFL football. I'm no fan of Pagano's on field coaching but pretty hard to blame him for the 3-8 record. Young team , terrible O line and Brissett is a hot mess when pressured.

which happens on every snap

[BlueShoe]

1 hour ago, Steamboat_Shaun said:

Did anyone else catch this? Not sure how to describe it other than it seems that Chuck has completely accepted his fate at this point.

 

https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/nfl/colts/2017/11/27/chuck-pagano-really-loosens-up-news-conference/899482001/

 

I watched it earlier today.

 

He was off quite a bit. 

[crazycolt1]

18 minutes ago, jameszeigler834 said:

I just cant see how you can look past this terrible season Brissett has been fairly good a QB the colts can win football games with and under his direction cant finish games no has to go.

The Colts can't win with any QB who throws pick sixes with adding the turnovers from a couple of key players.

That is something you can't blame Pagano for.

[RockThatBlue]

39 minutes ago, buccolts said:

 

No, you were part of the 10% who didn't have strong feelings on it last year.

10% of the time, it works every time. 

[IndySouthsider]

34 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

I want Harbaugh, we win the Division with him and Luck and that is common sense.

But not the Buckeyes?

[RockThatBlue]

12 minutes ago, crazycolt1 said:

The Colts can't win with any QB who throws pick sixes with adding the turnovers from a couple of key players.

That is something you can't blame Pagano for.

Pagano and the staff do deserve some (and probably most) blame for the Colts failing in 2nd halves. I'm sure Pagano and the staff have tried to figure out ways to fix it, but its clearly not working. The team makes the same mistakes game after game.

[lollygagger8]

Pagano: 

[crazycolt1]

2 minutes ago, RockThatBlue said:

Pagano and the staff do deserve some (and probably most) blame for the Colts failing in 2nd halves. I'm sure Pagano and the staff have tried to figure out ways to fix it, but its clearly not working. The team makes the same mistakes game after game.

Every coach needs the personnel to have any scheme or adjustment to work. When the depth and talent level is so poor no matter what Chuck or any other coach does it's not going to be successful. Going into this season we all knew it was rebuilding year and those who are familiar with the NFL knew it would take time. To expect Pagano or any other coach to make this team a winner was unrealistic from the start.

[dw49]

41 minutes ago, OLD FAN MAN said:

which happens on every snap

 

Those blitz pick ups are really insane ?

 

[Jaric]

I think I like this approach better than reciting the same platitudes that didn't work when the team was winning.  

[IndyD4U]

That's a guy who knows his day is coming. 

[dw49]

47 minutes ago, crazycolt1 said:

No I didn't go back and calculate it. Does it really mean that much to you for me to guess or be exact?

Look, most all thought Grigson and Pagano both were going to be fired. It didn't happen so we can all have an opinion what we think will happen but reality tells us we don't know.

All that Irsay has said is Pagano's record would not be the determining factor in him being fired or retained. There is one thing I do know about Irsay after all these years is he does things his way and what he thinks is best for his team regardless of what the fans think.

 

Above is true and all well and fine. However a person can feel "certain" that something is going to happen or not happen. I'm certain my wife is flying to NIH tonight and not shacking up with a gigolo at the LA airport. Can you be certain and be wrong ?... "certainly." My point was I'm certain Chuck Pagano will not coach Indianapolis for the 2018 season. It means I am confident and without doubt he'll be gone. Does that make it fact ? No.

[WoolMagnet]

1 hour ago, crazycolt1 said:

Dumbness? Really ? You may question his coaching but calling him dumb?  Just remember when you point a finger and call someone dumb there is three pointing back.

Its dumb to think a guy who has reached the pinnacle of his profession and makes millions of dollars is dumb.

i gues a walmart greeter might make the mistake, but seriously?  Dumb?  Its more like some of these posts are dumb.

chuck may be several things, but i'm pretty sure DUMB isnt ne of them. And you might not wanna use math problems when explaining things to some people.

 

[crazycolt1]

12 minutes ago, dw49 said:

 

Above is true and all well and fine. However a person can feel "certain" that something is going to happen or not happen. I'm certain my wife is flying to NIH tonight and not shacking up with a gigolo at the LA airport. Can you be certain and be wrong ?... "certainly." My point was I'm certain Chuck Pagano will not coach Indianapolis for the 2018 season. It means I am confident and without doubt he'll be gone. Does that make it fact ? No.

That is very true of your opinion but there is doubt because Chuck is still here. Maybe Irsay plans on keeping Chuck through his contract? We just don't know.

With that said we all have to wait and see what Irsay and Ballard does. Ballard may see Pagano's hands were tied this season and give him the benefit?  We have all seen stranger things happen.

In an earlier statement I said we all knew this was a rebuilding year so expecting Pagano to make a winner out of this team was pretty much a lost cause from the beginning. The old saying you can't make a silk purse out of a pig's ear holds true for Pagano.

[WoolMagnet]

1 hour ago, crazycolt1 said:

. There is one thing I do know about Irsay after all these years is he does things his way and what he thinks is best for his team regardless of what the fans think.

Thank god 

[dw49]

1 minute ago, crazycolt1 said:

That is very true of your opinion but there is doubt because Chuck is still here. Maybe Irsay plans on keeping Chuck through his contract? We just don't know.

With that said we all have to wait and see what Irsay and Ballard does. Ballard may see Pagano's hands were tied this season and give him the benefit?  We have all seen stranger things happen.

In an earlier statement I said we all knew this was a rebuilding year so expecting Pagano to make a winner out of this team was pretty much a lost cause from the beginning. The old saying you can't make a silk purse out of a pig's ear hold true for Pagano.

 

 

I've said in other threads that you can't blame the 3-8 on Pagano. That said , I feel that Irsay would have replaced him last year but didn't like the options he had. I think this year , he gives Ballard a coach of his choice. But yeah... it's just all opinion. Our disagreement is just semantics and I think we understand our points

[dw49]

1 hour ago, buccolts said:

 

No, you were part of the 10% who didn't have strong feelings on it last year.

 

ha.. was hoping it meant I was right. 

[WoolMagnet]

26 minutes ago, crazycolt1 said:

Every coach needs the personnel to have any scheme or adjustment to work. When the depth and talent level is so poor no matter what Chuck or any other coach does it's not going to be successful. Going into this season we all knew it was rebuilding year and those who are familiar with the NFL knew it would take time. To expect Pagano or any other coach to make this team a winner was unrealistic from the start.

You should change your name to SensibleColt.

you arent nearly as crazy as some around here

[Timo1]

I thought it was great.  He should've said after 4yrs of hurricane ryan swirling around this building we finally got noreaster ballard pushing that crap out of here. 

[crazycolt1]

2 minutes ago, dw49 said:

 

 

I've said in other threads that you can't blame the 3-8 on Pagano. That said , I feel that Irsay would have replaced him last year but didn't like the options he had. I think this year , he gives Ballard a coach of his choice. But yeah... it's just all opinion. Our disagreement is just semantics and I think we understand our points

Exactly. It's good we can not see eye to eye on everything and hold a civil debate. Kind of refreshing after some of the stuff we have all been through in this down year.

[a06cc]

I’m 50/50 on whatever decision is made. Pagano staying or leaving I’m fine. The really problem was Grigson. Now that he’s gone the team has played better. We just don’t have Andrew Luck. The team and players are suited for him. I was done on Moncrief, but Luck is key. Donte is a big red zone target. The team is hurt so if Chuck is given a pass I’m fine. Was mad at him yesterday. However I’m not anymore. He has improved a lot in my opinion. The usage of timeouts and challenges are way better than in years past. We all can’t deny that lol

[Coltfreak]

36 minutes ago, crazycolt1 said:

Every coach needs the personnel to have any scheme or adjustment to work. When the depth and talent level is so poor no matter what Chuck or any other coach does it's not going to be successful. Going into this season we all knew it was rebuilding year and those who are familiar with the NFL knew it would take time. To expect Pagano or any other coach to make this team a winner was unrealistic from the start.

Please tell me all the super players on the Pats D that started out last in the league to start the season and is now one of the best in the league.....  did they go out and bring in a bunch of HOFres or just get coached up with the appropriate scheme for the players available?

 

i honestly think you are gonna cry when Pagcrap and his worthless minions get fired 

[crazycolt1]

2 minutes ago, a06cc said:

I’m 50/50 on whatever decision is made. Pagano staying or leaving I’m fine. The really problem was Grigson. Now that he’s gone the team has played better. We just don’t have Andrew Luck. The team and players are suited for him. I was done on Moncrief, but Luck is key. Donte is a big red zone target. The team is hurt so if Chuck is given a pass I’m fine. Was mad at him yesterday. However I’m not anymore. He has improved a lot in my opinion. The usage of timeouts and challenges are way better than in years past. We all can’t deny that lol

Being 50/50 is a good place to be. We can all have different opinions and or point of views but in the end we have no control.

[crazycolt1]

1 minute ago, Coltfreak said:

Please tell me all the super players on the Pats D that started out last in the league to start the season and is now one of the best in the league.....  did they go out and bring in a bunch of HOFres or just get coached up with the appropriate scheme for the players available?

 

i honestly think you are gonna cry when Pagcrap and his worthless minions get fired 

Why are you even going there? Is that your way of trying to antagonize me?

If you cant see the talent level between the Pats and the Colts then I question your ability to judge any NFL players.

[JColts72]

Rambling man with loose associations. 

[a06cc]

2 minutes ago, crazycolt1 said:

Being 50/50 is a good place to be. We can all have different opinions and or point of views but in the end we have no control.

Thank you. In my opinion looking at the team. Our offensive line needs fixed. 

[Coltfreak]

1 minute ago, crazycolt1 said:

Why are you even going there? Is that your way of trying to antagonize me?

If you cant see the talent level between the Pats and the Colts then I question your ability to judge any NFL players.

Tell me all the great players on the Pats D......   name them.  

[NewColtsFan]

1 hour ago, jameszeigler834 said:

I just cant see how you can look past this terrible season.   Brissett has been fairly good a QB.  The Colts can win football games with and under his direction.  Can't finish games.  No, has to go.

 

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