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Desir is still young and got a pick against Ben on one of the faster and taller receivers in the league of Martavis. I think he'll develop into someone really good next year. Could start over Wilson and that's fine with me. Imagine the depth of Melvin, Desir, Wilson, and Hairston. 

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1 hour ago, ColtsBlitz said:

Desir is still young and got a pick against Ben on one of the faster and taller receivers in the league of Martavis. I think he'll develop into someone really good next year. Could start over Wilson and that's fine with me. Imagine the depth of Melvin, Desir, Wilson, and Hairston. 

 

dnt understand the 'imagine the depth' implication. When that's literally what we have today. 

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Desir is the starter now and someone is going to have to take that spot away from him.  Assuming he continues to play great ball the Colts are going to want to bring both Desir and Melvin back to be our starters.  It looks like our secondary is becoming one of the teams strengths.  I guess iron sharpens iron or something like that. 

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Desir is someone I wanted to draft and love that we finally got him.  To me we resign him and Melvin and they become our starters.  I would not mind to grab someone like Trumaine Johnson in FA and maybe not resign someone but if we want to save money and just keep these two I am happy with that.  Wilson, in my eyes if he is not able to play his way onto the field he can be trade bait or maybe just sit as depth.  I just hope the knee was a key issue and now Desir is playing his way into a starter.

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23 minutes ago, indyagent17 said:

I understand they are playing fine but we should still consider we need depth as well

 

Desir was a high draft pick of the Browns but got lost there, he looks to be getting his confidence back 

I would not say he was a high draft pick.  He was picked towards the end of the 4th round.  

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Guys....

 

Not be a Debbie downer here, but let’s not fall into this trap again. We’ve been down this road many times with players who probably aren’t in the league anymore.

 

While I agree about Hairston, let’s pump the breaks on Desir. He’s had a couple nice moments, but future starter is jumping the gun for him. Let’s wait and see what the rest of the season is like for Desir. There was a time last year when the OL was “fixed”. I’m all in on Hairston who has been exceptional every week but one step at a time.

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1 hour ago, Gabriel Alexander Morillo said:

How can you say they’re playing fine when our coverage is so bad. Maybe they’re giving up one or two big plays a game but that’s how you lose football games. Lol 

I would say our coverage has been getting better, but when the QB has all day you are asking a lot for a CB to guard a WR for 5 or 6 seconds.  Doing this without any penalties as well.

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Assuming we continue to see good solid play the rest of the way,  it feels like the quartet of Melvin, Wilson,  Desir and Wilson is a nice group to start with.

 

Props to Ballard and the coaching staff.

 

I wouldn't call the group a finished product...   we wouldn't be done...  but it's very much improved...

 

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6 hours ago, ColtsBlitz said:

Desir is still young and got a pick against Ben on one of the faster and taller receivers in the league of Martavis. I think he'll develop into someone really good next year. Could start over Wilson and that's fine with me. Imagine the depth of Melvin, Desir, Wilson, and Hairston. 

I agree 100% they have both been pretty good.

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Hairston, has been very good, Melvin has been very solid for 1 1/2 years now not sure why he bounced around early in his career but glad we got him. Desir, I also liked him coming out of college hes playing well now, still would like to see a bigger sample size before saying he is good, but he has been so far. Wilson I like, wanted the Colts to draft him, I think hes going to be pretty good. All in all I think Colts corners the arrow finally might be pointing UP! 

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12 minutes ago, indyagent17 said:

I know but someone in the fourth round should become a starter eventually unless your GM's last name begins with Grig....

I would say that is a bit of a reach.  You hope a 4th round pick becomes a starter but that is no guarantee at all.  I would venture to say the 4th and 5th rounds lead to more depth and rotational guys.  Players that get some good PT when others are hurt.  Important players non-the-less but not a guaranteed starter.  Grigson clearly was not great at finding or evaluating talent with the draft though.

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21 minutes ago, Dark Superman said:

If the Colts can get Hooker and Geathers back healthy in 2018, plus bring in another strong CB I think it's safe to say a lot of people here will be feeling good about our secondary.

Add to that one solid passrusher plus Simon and Sheard hopefully continuing to improve, and you have a strong defense.

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34 minutes ago, DaColts85 said:

I would say that is a bit of a reach.  You hope a 4th round pick becomes a starter but that is no guarantee at all.  I would venture to say the 4th and 5th rounds lead to more depth and rotational guys.  Players that get some good PT when others are hurt.  Important players non-the-less but not a guaranteed starter.  Grigson clearly was not great at finding or evaluating talent with the draft though.

ofcourse no guarantee, but one would hope that after months of accumulating data and watching endless film on a player a fourth rounder SHOULD be starting on your team over time

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7 minutes ago, indyagent17 said:

ofcourse no guarantee, but one would hope that after months of accumulating data and watching endless film on a player a fourth rounder SHOULD be starting on your team over time

I agree you would hope that they are starting or at least playing.  Here is an article I have saved based on when we hired Ballard.  Found it interesting for the numbers and then the ties with Chiefs and Ballard was there.  Take a look just for the fun of it.  Some good knowledge and research in the numbers for draft and success rates.

 

https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2015/2/20/8072877/what-the-statistics-tell-us-about-the-draft-by-round 

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3 hours ago, Defjamz26 said:

Guys....

 

Not be a Debbie downer here, but let’s not fall into this trap again. We’ve been down this road many times with players who probably aren’t in the league anymore.

 

While I agree about Hairston, let’s pump the breaks on Desir. He’s had a couple nice moments, but future starter is jumping the gun for him. Let’s wait and see what the rest of the season is like for Desir. There was a time last year when the OL was “fixed”. I’m all in on Hairston who has been exceptional every week but one step at a time.

 

Thanks.  Way to early. Hold off on Desir as a HOMER All-Pro. It's not like i didn't just watch him get smoked in his last half of FB.

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1 hour ago, indyagent17 said:

ofcourse no guarantee, but one would hope that after months of accumulating data and watching endless film on a player a fourth rounder SHOULD be starting on your team over time

That's just not the reality of how things work. Some players just don't pan out in the NFL. Look at Zach Banner, We drafted him round 4 and he was gone by the start of the season. 

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6 hours ago, Defjamz26 said:

Guys....

 

Not be a Debbie downer here, but let’s not fall into this trap again. We’ve been down this road many times with players who probably aren’t in the league anymore.

 

While I agree about Hairston, let’s pump the breaks on Desir. He’s had a couple nice moments, but future starter is jumping the gun for him. Let’s wait and see what the rest of the season is like for Desir. There was a time last year when the OL was “fixed”. I’m all in on Hairston who has been exceptional every week but one step at a time.

Never bought the O-line hype from last year.  In 6 games, I might buy in on the secondary, though.  I like what I've seen, minus Vontae 

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On 11/17/2017 at 3:27 PM, DaColts85 said:

I agree you would hope that they are starting or at least playing.  Here is an article I have saved based on when we hired Ballard.  Found it interesting for the numbers and then the ties with Chiefs and Ballard was there.  Take a look just for the fun of it.  Some good knowledge and research in the numbers for draft and success rates.

 

https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2015/2/20/8072877/what-the-statistics-tell-us-about-the-draft-by-round 

Good Read, but I am being hopeful a 4th rounder SHOULD contribute as a starter if your scouting is good.

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