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My take is this.  The only QB rookies that seem to play well are running QBs.  The pass first guys tAke a few years.  Jacoby is a slow runner a d is forced to read defenses his rookie year.  That is great experience and I think he is doing well.  Taking his lumps though.

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34 minutes ago, LockeDown said:

My take is this.  The only QB rookies that seem to play well are running QBs.  The pass first guys tAke a few years.  Jacoby is a slow runner a d is forced to read defenses his rookie year.  That is great experience and I think he is doing well.  Taking his lumps though.

Two problems with this statement:

1) He is a running QB

2) He isn't a rookie

 

But yes, I agree he is getting good experience and will adjust

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1 minute ago, crazycolt1 said:

He started 2 games prior to coming to the Colts. He was drafted in 2016. So yes he is a rookie.

I mean he's had a year of experience with the New England Patriots last year, practicing behind two veterans learning a lot.. I don't understand how the amount of games played amounts to brissett being a rookie. just saying. 

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9 minutes ago, WarGhost21 said:

Two problems with this statement:

1) He is a running QB

2) He isn't a rookie

 

But yes, I agree he is getting good experience and will adjust

If a Brissett is a running QB then Luck and Wentz are Cam Newton & Michael Vick...  I wouldn’t call what Jacoby does on 9 out of 10 scrambles as running. He’s definitely not as good a runner as Luck. In fact, if he used to be a runner in college, then he gave that up to take on Tom Brady’s running style & speed...

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2 minutes ago, TYtheGHOST said:

I mean he's had a year of experience with the New England Patriots last year, practicing behind two veterans learning a lot.. I don't understand how the amount of games played amounts to brissett being a rookie. just saying. 

Just how many snaps do you think he took with the vets? He was the 3rd string rookie QB.

 

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1 minute ago, crazycolt1 said:

Just how many snaps do you think he took with the vets? He was the 3rd string rookie QB.

 

i see what your saying, all im saying is the experience of being in that locker room with those guys watching them play, along with having bill belichik as a coach makes him not much of a rookie

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3 minutes ago, TYtheGHOST said:

i see what your saying, all im saying is the experience of being in that locker room with those guys watching them play, along with having bill belichik as a coach makes him not much of a rookie

If that was the case then Jim Sorgi should have been an all star. :D

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Brissett is getting better every game, against tough conditions. I would say he would have an entire season of showcasing what he can become and right now, he has far exceeded my expectations of being able to at least give us a "chance" to win most games. You couldn't say that about the Browns QB or the 49ers QB or freaking Brian Hoyer who couldn't win with SF, or with even Eli. Plus, all of those had attended full training camps with their team, for crying out loud, before they stunk.

 

Brissett, along with the others, probably because of a lot of youth infused into this team by design, has to learn to finish and that is to be expected with a team that suddenly got younger, IMO, people tend to ignore that. However, there is a difference between a vet QB Philip Rivers led team not being able to finish games vs a young QB like Brissett not being able to finish games. That is why, when you do an objective comparison, beyond the QB passer rating and stats, he might be the best back up QB in the league when Luck comes back, IMO with a season of weathering under his belt.

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5 hours ago, OLD FAN MAN said:

espn has brissett ranked at 25 out of 32 is he this bad

For a backup under the circumstances, he's done well, but the more games he plays, and with Luck's future in question, you have to start evaluating him differently - as a starter, as a long term starter.  #25?  Low level starter?  That seems about right to me.  Are you competing with him as a starter?  To date, I don't see it.

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6 hours ago, TYtheGHOST said:

i see what your saying, all im saying is the experience of being in that locker room with those guys watching them play, along with having bill belichik as a coach makes him not much of a rookie

Huge difference between holding a clip board for a hall of fame player and playing snaps. See Curtis Painter.  In practice, Defenses aren't usually trying to rip you apart like in game day.

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7 hours ago, WarGhost21 said:

Two problems with this statement:

1) He is a running QB

2) He isn't a rookie

 

But yes, I agree he is getting good experience and will adjust

 

2 problems with that statement.

 

1) He's about as much of a running QB as Peyton was.

 

Jacoby ran a 5.0-second 40-yard dash at the combine.

 

There are offensive linemen that run sub-5.0 40s.

 

2) This is Jacoby's first full season playing, so he's much closer to being a rookie than a veteran.

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50 minutes ago, zibby43 said:

 

2 problems with that statement.

 

1) He's about as much of a running QB as Peyton was.

 

Jacoby ran a 5.0-second 40-yard dash at the combine.

 

There are offensive linemen that run sub-5.0 40s.

 

2) This is Jacoby's first full season playing, so he's much closer to being a rookie than a veteran.

I concur/agree 100%

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10 hours ago, OLD FAN MAN said:

espn has brissett ranked at 25 out of 32 is he this bad

9 hours ago, OLD FAN MAN said:
10 hours ago, OLD FAN MAN said:

espn has brissett ranked at 25 out of 32 is he this bad

espn has brissett ranked at 25 out of 32 is he this bad

 

 

   I would say that is fairly impressive under the circumstances.

 

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23 hours ago, LockeDown said:

My take is this.  The only QB rookies that seem to play well are running QBs.  The pass first guys tAke a few years.  Jacoby is a slow runner a d is forced to read defenses his rookie year.  That is great experience and I think he is doing well.  Taking his lumps though.

Brisset is not a rookie.  He's a second year player.

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7 hours ago, Roger said:

It is fact that last season was his rookie season. People saying he's a rookie does not make him a rookie.

My point is he is inexperienced as an NFL starter and he is slow.  He runs a 4.94 40 yard dash.  There are Olinemen faster than him.  He is forced to make reads early in his development against 1st string NFL starters instead of taking off after his first read is not there.  With that in mind he might develop into a better QB sooner because of this. 

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Kind of hard to evaluate ranking without actually seeing it. 25 might be a bit too low though.

 

On 15.11.2017 at 5:42 AM, crazycolt1 said:

That is ESPN. NFL has him rated at 14th in yardage with a passer rating of 86.7.

 

He has more yards than Rodgers, Carr, Mariota, Eli, Prescott, Watson, etc. Tannehill hasnt played at all this year. He's not better than those guys.

 

 

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8 minutes ago, Finball said:

Kind of hard to evaluate ranking without actually seeing it. 25 might be a bit too low though.

 

 

He has more yards than Rodgers, Carr, Mariota, Eli, Prescott, Watson, etc. Tannehill hasnt played at all this year. He's not better than those guys.

 

 

:scratch:----What are you talking about?

 

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