TJ Green at CB

[GusBus24]

Heard TJ Green got 1st team reps as a CB opposite of Davis today. This could be nice at 6'3 211 pounds. Sounds like he is all for it to. 

[BR-549]

JMV talking about it now.... hmmm.  If he can do it and do it well at the NFL level then great.... I have my doubts though.

 

Wonder if that means they are not happy with his progress at safety.

[stitches]

I have no idea what part of Green's performance in college, in his NFL rookie year or in this year's camp and preseason makes Pagano think he can cover as a safety, let alone as a corner. This feels like he's trying to throw % at the wall and see what sticks. SMH

[crazycolt1]

10 minutes ago, stitches said:

I have no idea what part of Green's performance in college, in his NFL rookie year or in this year's camp and preseason makes Pagano think he can cover as a safety, let alone as a corner. This feels like he's trying to throw % at the wall and see what sticks. SMH

It's called taking a chance with a project player.

[BR-549]

1 minute ago, crazycolt1 said:

It's called taking a chance with a project player.

Thats cool and I would be happy if it works out, but really... how many projects do we need right now?

[Bravo]

I think Green actually played pretty well in the first preseason game for the little he did.

 

Ted also said very good things about Green in camp.

[crazycolt1]

9 minutes ago, BR-549 said:

Thats cool and I would be happy if it works out, but really... how many projects do we need right now?

We have a 90 man roster right now. That has to be cut down to 53 plus 10. That leaves 27 project players.

[Jason_]

13 minutes ago, stitches said:

I have no idea what part of Green's performance in college, in his NFL rookie year or in this year's camp and preseason makes Pagano think he can cover as a safety, let alone as a corner. This feels like he's trying to throw % at the wall and see what sticks. SMH

 

Which is what a lot of teams do during preseason and training camp to see which players are going to make the final roster and which ones won't.  

[Andrew Luck fan club]

Rather see Hairston get snaps there over Green. 

[TKnight24]

29 minutes ago, GusBus24 said:

Heard TJ Green got 1st team reps as a CB opposite of Davis today. This could be nice at 6'3 211 pounds. Sounds like he is all for it to. 

"I heard...."?

 

So you just not gonna credit me & my thread? Gus, I'm hurt..... deeply 

 

You now owe me apple juice 

 

 

(Joking...... about the feelings. I still want the apple juice)

 

[TKnight24]

 

 

 

 

[BR-549]

1 minute ago, TKnight24 said:

"I heard...."?

 

So you just not gonna credit me & my thread? Gus, I'm hurt..... deeply 

 

You now owe me apple juice 

 

 

(Joking...... about the feelings. I still want the apple juice)

 

You seem to be a pretty loose dude.... apple juice related 

[Colts_Fan12]

Dude just needs to work on getting better at safety so he can be a SS next to Hooker 

[crazycolt1]

19 minutes ago, Majin Vegeta said:

Rather see Hairston get snaps there over Green. 

True but having some depth is a pretty good idea too. I wish we had a whole team that could play any position!

[Shadow_Creek]

1 minute ago, crazycolt1 said:

True but having some depth is a pretty good idea too. I wish we had a whole team that could play any position!

lol Andrew Luck Aka QB RB DT CB he can do it all!!!

[crazycolt1]

7 minutes ago, Shadow_Creek said:

lol Andrew Luck Aka QB RB DT CB he can do it all!!!

That does remind me of McAfee. In camp I seen him play DB, WR and QB. When I ask him about it later he just laughed and said he was a jack of all trades.

[Douzer]

Wilson and Hairston most likely need rest after the reps they put in Sunday. Plus TJ had a good showing Sunday. He's hungry, athletic and young. Why not take a look and see if he has a little position flexibility. It's practice...

[bananabucket]

47 minutes ago, stitches said:

This feels like he's trying to throw % at the wall and see what sticks. SMH

 

 What's wrong with that?

[dgambill]

I'm going to assume this was just to get him some extra secondary work. Not reading anymore into it until he lines up in preseason out there.

[NannyMcafee]

I want to love green. But I have seen a lot of potential go no where. Hopefully he proves everyone wrong. 

[Shadow_Creek]

I wonder. Are there any differences when playing corner in a 3-4 defense  vs a 4-3 style? I ask because i assume playing man to man is taught in both styles of defense right?

[will426]

Well they're possibly trying to find a place for him on the field and the way our backup corners looked why not give him a chance to see what he can do..plus if he somehow shows he can play corner then for sure he has ability to play safety 

[will426]

2 minutes ago, Shadow_Creek said:

I wonder. Are there any differences when playing corner in a 3-4 defense  vs a 4-3 style? I ask because i assume playing man to man is taught in both styles of defense right?

Yeah I believe you can switch up into zone or man in either styles..he is a big guy and him pressing at the los could work out lovely buttttt I won't get my hopes up till I see it on film 

[Malakai432]

I expect Green to get a lot of reps in the PS, we'll see how he fairs and if he's capable of making that improvement.  The guy does seems to have extreme athletic talent.  I'm pulling for him.

[Douzer]

They want TJ to improve his cover skills, so they line him up over TY and let them go at it all day.  What's not to like?

[crazycolt1]

With his talent and ability I don't understand why a few are so negative about giving him a chance.

If it don't work out there is nothing gambled or lost.

Is it because he was a Grigson pick or what? There are players all over the league who end up playing different positions that what was originally thought. The more versatile players can be the better they are.

[ColtsBlueFL]

Sometimes, i think the fans here that talk up so much about Landon Collins might well have tried to run him out of town... in his rookie year.

 

PFF had Collins rated as the NFL's worst safety in his rookie 2015 season.  Then in 2016, he turned it around and became the straw that stirs the Giants D drink.

I am not one to write of any rookie, especially on that has incredible measurables and intangibles.  I'll make my decision on T.J. at the end of next season.  I'll know if he can learn and make his athleticism work anywhere in the scheme.

 

I know (one of) my goal(s) was for him to be  'Big Nickel' safety in both 11 and 12 (especially when the other team motions one of their big athletic TE's out wide) personnel looks.

 

I can't wait to see in what innovative defensive looks Pagano and the DB coaches do with Green as he learns and develops his game.

 

[GusBus24]

54 minutes ago, Majin Vegeta said:

Rather see Hairston get snaps there over Green. 

REALLY? Hairston looked like a little boy among men on Sunday. He looked horrible

[GusBus24]

52 minutes ago, TKnight24 said:

"I heard...."?

 

So you just not gonna credit me & my thread? Gus, I'm hurt..... deeply 

 

You now owe me apple juice 

 

 

(Joking...... about the feelings. I still want the apple juice)

 

Sorry. I just saw it come across my phone

[Andrew Luck fan club]

10 minutes ago, ColtsBlueFL said:

Sometimes, i think the fans here that talk up so much about Landon Collins might well have tried to run him out of town... in his rookie year.

 

PFF had Collins rated as the NFL's worst safety in his rookie 2015 season.  Then in 2016, he turned it around and became the straw that stirs the Giants D drink.

I am not one to write of any rookie, especially on that has incredible measurables and intangibles.  I'll make my decision on T.J. at the end of next season.  I'll know if he can learn and make his athleticism work anywhere in the scheme.

 

I know (one of) my goal(s) was for him to be  'Big Nickel' safety in out 11 and 12 (especially when the other team motions one of their big athletic TE's out wide) personnel looks.

 

I can't wait to see in what innovative defensive looks Pagano and the DB coaches do with Green as he learns and develops his game.

 

Landon had great college film at S though. He also had the 7th most defensive stops for a S his rookie year. He atleast showed some flashes. 

[Andrew Luck fan club]

7 minutes ago, GusBus24 said:

REALLY? Hairston looked like a little boy among men on Sunday. He looked horrible

He has potential. 

[The Peytonator]

Have him cover TY in practice so when he covers some big, fat TE in a game, he'll be able to shut him down. Pagano is just playing 13D Korean Starcraft, while Billy B is still playing checkers. 

[TheRustonRifle#7]

31 minutes ago, Douzer said:

They want TJ to improve his cover skills, so they line him up over TY and let them go at it all day.  What's not to like?

The voice of reason...kudos!

[TheRustonRifle#7]

26 minutes ago, ColtsBlueFL said:

Sometimes, i think the fans here that talk up so much about Landon Collins might well have tried to run him out of town... in his rookie year.

 

PFF had Collins rated as the NFL's worst safety in his rookie 2015 season.  Then in 2016, he turned it around and became the straw that stirs the Giants D drink.

I am not one to write of any rookie, especially on that has incredible measurables and intangibles.  I'll make my decision on T.J. at the end of next season.  I'll know if he can learn and make his athleticism work anywhere in the scheme.

 

I know (one of) my goal(s) was for him to be  'Big Nickel' safety in out 11 and 12 (especially when the other team motions one of their big athletic TE's out wide) personnel looks.

 

I can't wait to see in what innovative defensive looks Pagano and the DB coaches do with Green as he learns and develops his game.

 

Woulda, coulda, shoulda......the answers to all of life's complexities.

[BR-549]

13 minutes ago, TheRustonRifle#7 said:

Woulda, coulda, shoulda......the answers to all of life's complexities.

You forgot  "but dint"... my football (and wrestling ) coach in HS said it all the time.  He would say why didn't you ______???.... after your response his would be.... "you woulda, you coulda and you SHOULDA.... but you dint" and then the evil eye would burn you to the ground, lol.  He was a good sized man and played NT semi-pro.... would demand your respect questions or challenges were not necessary.

[RockThatBlue]

46 minutes ago, GusBus24 said:

REALLY? Hairston looked like a little boy among men on Sunday. He looked horrible

I don't think he was that bad. Mitchell was the CB that was terrible.

[krunk]

There was nothing wrong with Hairston.  Some people just have a need to call somebody awful just because of a love for the word.  LOL

[AKB]

I didn't notice hairston too much. I feel as if he wasn't targeted too often. Which in my book, is a success.

[crazycolt1]

6 minutes ago, krunk said:

There was nothing wrong with Hairston.  Some people just have a need to call somebody awful just because of a love for the word.  LOL

It's easier to call someone awful or bad when they don't take the time to watch and understand what is going on.

[BR-549]

11 minutes ago, crazycolt1 said:

It's easier to call someone awful or bad when they don't take the time to watch and understand what is going on.

I thought he did fine, particularly given his draft status and that most didn't/ don't have high expectations of him.  

 

I am of the opinion he may be one of those diamond in the rough type players.... we'll see, its early.