Colts Depth Chart Released

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[The Fish]

Looking at the D, I get the feeling that the unit is a blue chip LB away from being pretty solid (solid, as in not the sure fire reason the offense will have to score 28 to win).

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[Indy1996]

I still dont understand why not do this darius butler played ss and fs last year why not switch him to ss and let malik hooker to start at fs

[tweezy32]

Quincy Wilson 3rd string???  Though he was doing a good job...  Hooker should be starting with butler...  And hopefully the switching of mewhort works and helps the online become better. 

[Indy1996]

Just now, tweezy32 said:

Quincy Wilson 3rd string???  Though he was doing a good job...  Hooker should be starting with butler...  And hopefully the switching of mewhort works and helps the online become better. 

Bro fr they should switch hooker or butler to ss

[tweezy32]

1 minute ago, Indy1996 said:

Bro fr they should switch hooker or butler to ss

I swear,  this is just the 1st depth chart so it really doesn't mean a whole lot but we know the majority on who's going to start anyways...  But they could just be putting them behind people so they see the chart and make thwm work harder for the spot

[IinD]

On paper I like the Oline. Good had to be demoted unfortunately. The G switch I can understand the logic.

 

D will be fun to watch at a minimum. Can't really judge them yet with no work to show us.

[ProblChld32]

31 minutes ago, Indy1996 said:

I still dont understand why not do this darius butler played ss and fs last year why not switch him to ss and let malik hooker to start at fs

 

Its an early depth chart, dont read much into it. Butler is better suited as a free safety he doesnt have the body/ fram size to play SS.

[ProblChld32]

Mack ahead of ferguson, Spence listed 4th, Rogers and Dorsett both listed 3rd? Very interesting 

[Fisticuffs111]

No surprises really. I think they're trying to keep certain young guys hungry, like Wilson, Hooker, Grover Stewart, and some others.

[deadman]

The only real surprise I see is Wilson being listed as 3rd string corner. Would have expected 2nd. A positive note is we'll get to see a fair amount of him Sunday. 

[crazycolt1]

IMO this depth chart will change from pre season game to game.

[CR91]

Sheesh Spence is buried. What did he do, take a shot at Carley

[IinD]

7 minutes ago, CR91 said:

Sheesh Spence is buried. What did he do, take a shot at Carley

I mean third team in 5 years...You know what I'm saying? I doubt he's a world beater in the nfl.

[ColtsBlitz]

I am surprised Sean Spence is 4th string. Has our lb corps improved that much as to make someone we all thought would start look bad? 

 

Would we ever keep 6 receivers? I'm thinking ty, Moncrief, Dorsett, Rodgers, Aiken, and Bug Howard. 

 

5 minutes ago, crazycolt1 said:

IMO this depth chart will change from pre season game to game.

This will most definitely happen due to performance and most likely injury. 

 

16 minutes ago, Fisticuffs111 said:

No surprises really. I think they're trying to keep certain young guys hungry, like Wilson, Hooker, Grover Stewart, and some others.

I think so as well. They will take this as a message to work harder, and that they are that close to a starting spot. I also think they put them there to get the starters out there, then as preseason games are supposed to be, they throw the backups in for most of the game. Depth chart is probably irrelevant to playing time during the preseason, but just my take. 

 

 

[CR91]

2 minutes ago, IinD said:

I mean third team in 5 years...You know what I'm saying? I doubt he's a world beater in the nfl.

 

But he was mostly injured in Pittsburgh

[ColtsFanMikeC]

58 minutes ago, Indy1996 said:

I still dont understand why not do this darius butler played ss and fs last year why not switch him to ss and let malik hooker to start at fs

 

54 minutes ago, tweezy32 said:

Quincy Wilson 3rd string???  Though he was doing a good job...  Hooker should be starting with butler...  And hopefully the switching of mewhort works and helps the online become better. 

 

52 minutes ago, Indy1996 said:

Bro fr they should switch hooker or butler to ss

 

To the above 3 -- let's keep in mind that Hooker missed OTAs due to recovering from injury and then had a hammy tweak in one of the first practices.  This could simply be to work him into game speed slowly.  One of the easiest ways to get hurt at his position, IMO, is being lost on the field or out of place where you have to compensate to cover ground or take bad angles on tackles.  I assume if he stays healthy and continues to show growth we'll see him with the starters by the 2nd or 3rd preseason game.  Right now, I bet this is just to work him up to game speed, limit his reps a little bit and get a feel for the game before he's going against an opposing team's top talent.

 

 

26 minutes ago, ProblChld32 said:

 

Its an early depth chart, dont read much into it. Butler is better suited as a free safety he doesnt have the body/ fram size to play SS.

 

I agree Butler is better suited to play FS, but I think he is a better SS candidate than Hooker who seems like a true FS.  Butler has good tackling ability, has been pretty durable over his career, and seems to have less range than Hooker as a 'center-fielder'.  If/when Geathers gets healthy, I expect we'll see Butler, Geathers, and Hooker on the field at the same time pretty frequently.

 

 

10 minutes ago, CR91 said:

Sheesh Spence is buried. What did he do, take a shot at Carley

 

Spence hasn't really done much in his career (last year was his best year with 54 combined tackles, 17 solo tackles, and 3 sacks).  He has also had major issues with his knee and some other injuries.  Our LBs were bad last year and then we lost DQ, Walden and Mathis so they looked even worse.  Just the fact that Spence had NFL experience was promising, but this comes as no surprise to me that he's not setting the world on fire seeing in the 3 mostly healthy NFL seasons he has played he never lit the world on fire with his performance. 

 

[aaron11]

1 hour ago, Indy1996 said:

I still dont understand why not do this darius butler played ss and fs last year why not switch him to ss and let malik hooker to start at fs

hes too small, butler has the frame of a nickel back, not a strong safety

 

he has never been asked to be a run stopping SS in the box

[ProblChld32]

34 minutes ago, ColtsFanMikeC said:

 

 

 

To the above 3 -- let's keep in mind that Hooker missed OTAs due to recovering from injury and then had a hammy tweak in one of the first practices.  This could simply be to work him into game speed slowly.  One of the easiest ways to get hurt at his position, IMO, is being lost on the field or out of place where you have to compensate to cover ground or take bad angles on tackles.  I assume if he stays healthy and continues to show growth we'll see him with the starters by the 2nd or 3rd preseason game.  Right now, I bet this is just to work him up to game speed, limit his reps a little bit and get a feel for the game before he's going against an opposing team's top talent.

 

 

 

I agree Butler is better suited to play FS, but I think he is a better SS candidate than Hooker who seems like a true FS.  Butler has good tackling ability, has been pretty durable over his career, and seems to have less range than Hooker as a 'center-fielder'.  If/when Geathers gets healthy, I expect we'll see Butler, Geathers, and Hooker on the field at the same time pretty frequently.

 

 

 

Spence hasn't really done much in his career (last year was his best year with 54 combined tackles, 17 solo tackles, and 3 sacks).  He has also had major issues with his knee and some other injuries.  Our LBs were bad last year and then we lost DQ, Walden and Mathis so they looked even worse.  Just the fact that Spence had NFL experience was promising, but this comes as no surprise to me that he's not setting the world on fire seeing in the 3 mostly healthy NFL seasons he has played he never lit the world on fire with his performance. 

 

 

Butler has shown decent tackling ability my worry is his durability when having to play in the box. He got injured here on a simple open field tackle. Imagine him having to thump FBs, TE's and OL every down it's gonna wear his body down. 

 

 

[VaAllDay757]

Wilson better be starting when the season starts...don't want no freaking tevin mitchel starting smh

[jskinnz]

21 minutes ago, VaAllDay757 said:

Wilson better be starting when the season starts...don't want no freaking tevin mitchel starting smh

 

To the bolded, or else what?

 

And if you paid attention at all, Melvin is the more likely starter as it is noted on the depth charts this thread is all about.

[VaAllDay757]

27 minutes ago, jskinnz said:

 

To the bolded, or else what?

 

And if you paid attention at all, Melvin is the more likely starter as it is noted on the depth charts this thread is all about.

Or else the secondary will get beat as usual wilson wasn't drafted in the 2nd round for no reason melvin is wack too

[akcolt]

2 minutes ago, VaAllDay757 said:

Or else the secondary will get beat as usual wilson wasn't drafted in the 2nd round for no reason melvin is wack too

I think Wilson wins that job. There isn't a rookie starting on this depth chart only a couple on 2nd team. The back end wil be Davis Wilson Farley Hooker when the smoke clears IMO.

 

Does anyone think Mitchel can stay healthy through camp? Butler at SS isn't a good idea. He and Hooker are FS.  

 

Keep in mind that's the base D We are likely to see Butler and Hooker together on passing down. 

 

I am surprised Hunt is slotted on the 2nd team haven't heard his name much. Powell has made the switch to CB? Man what happened to Spence? Edwards 6'4 277lbs is our 3rd team Rush OLB That might be the most interesting thing on this chart. Glad Mack is already 3rd at RB 

[krunk]

I'm interested to see if Tyvis Powell can make that transition to cornerback.  Love the size and he has a real good nose for the ball.  Maybe a step slower than TJ.  Personally I think Tevin Mitchel can play ball.  Health is an issue but he's pretty young and early into his career so we'll see on that note.

[bananabucket]

43 minutes ago, VaAllDay757 said:

Or else the secondary will get beat as usual wilson wasn't drafted in the 2nd round for no reason melvin is wack too

 

If Wilson started right away he'd get abused. Better to go with the vet and work Wilson in slowly.  

[krunk]

31 minutes ago, akcolt said:

I think Wilson wins that job. There isn't a rookie starting on this depth chart only a couple on 2nd team. The back end wil be Davis Wilson Farley Hooker when the smoke clears IMO.

 

Does anyone think Mitchel can stay healthy through camp? Butler at SS isn't a good idea. He and Hooker are FS.  

 

Keep in mind that's the base D We are likely to see Butler and Hooker together on passing down. 

 

I am surprised Hunt is slotted on the 2nd team haven't heard his name much. Powell has made the switch to CB? Man what happened to Spence? Edwards 6'4 277lbs is our 3rd team Rush OLB That might be the most interesting thing on this chart. Glad Mack is already 3rd at RB 

So far Mitchels been healthy the whole way so we'll see.   Margus Hunt has gotten some mentions but you missed them I guess.  Pagano spoke of him directly once and then another reporter made a comment.

[krunk]

Our D line looks real deep.  Will look even better once Kendall is back.

[krunk]

Looks like the staff may feel E. Jackson is better than Spence.

[ColtsFanMikeC]

3 hours ago, ColtsBlitz said:

I am surprised Sean Spence is 4th string. Has our lb corps improved that much as to make someone we all thought would start look bad? 

 

Would we ever keep 6 receivers? I'm thinking ty, Moncrief, Dorsett, Rodgers, Aiken, and Bug Howard. 

 

This will most definitely happen due to performance and most likely injury. 

 

I think so as well. They will take this as a message to work harder, and that they are that close to a starting spot. I also think they put them there to get the starters out there, then as preseason games are supposed to be, they throw the backups in for most of the game. Depth chart is probably irrelevant to playing time during the preseason, but just my take. 

 

 

 

I don't know why everyone is so surprised with Spence.  He had a major knee injury to start his career and has had several other injuries since.  He started 6 games in TN last year, which was his best statistical year with 54 combined tackles and 3 sacks.  In 3 years (not counting his injured years) he has 144 combined tackles total.  In 2015 alone, DQwell (a MLB many thought was not much more than average here) had 150 combined tackles.  Not to knock Spence too much, but it's not like the guy has ever done anything for people to expect he was going to come in here and be more than a body to compete for a roster spot in camp. 

 

We had 6 WRs on our final roster in 2014 (well Cribbs was kind of like a Bray in that he was listed as WR but was really a return specialist).  I don't think it's out of the question to keep 6 WRs, so long as we have at least one that shows to be valuable on STs.  I'm thinking right now, with Bray being listed as our PR and KR and higher on the WR chart than Howard that Howard is no more than a practice squad guy this year.  Regardless, when it comes down to those fringe players (whether we keep 4 RBs with Ferguson being our 4th or 6 WRs with Bray or Howard being the 6th, or an extra DB, etc...) they are going to have to show they can provide value to our STs.  For that reason, I see Bray as a more likely guy to make the 53 than Howard at this point.

 

2 hours ago, ProblChld32 said:

 

Butler has shown decent tackling ability my worry is his durability when having to play in the box. He got injured here on a simple open field tackle. Imagine him having to thump FBs, TE's and OL every down it's gonna wear his body down. 

 

 

 

I don't disagree with you here.  Butler's small size (plus fairly old age) do seem like liabilities in terms of injuries at SS.  That said, as it stands right now (especially with Geathers hurt), I think Hooker and Butler make up 2 of our top 3 DBs on this team (behind Vontae).  I will not be shocked at all, if Hooker develops, to see Butler go back to Nickel or to see us using a lot of hybrid systems where Butler and Hooker are used as safeties with primarily pass-defense obligations with Geathers, Farley or Green on the field as sort of hybrid LB/SS types. 

 

We'll see.  I just don't think Monachino/Pagano/Ballard are gonna want to keep Butler off the field if Hooker emerges and Butler still ranks as our 3rd best DB.

[Steamboat_Shaun]

3 hours ago, ColtsBlitz said:

 Would we ever keep 6 receivers? I'm thinking ty, Moncrief, Dorsett, Rodgers, Aiken, and Bug Howard. 

 

I've been following along pretty closely, and I have yet to hear much positive about Aiken. I've seen good reports about every other guy listed here except for him, I wouldn't be surprised if he ended up being the odd man out unless he just balls out in the preseason games.

[krunk]

11 minutes ago, Steamboat_Shaun said:

 

I've been following along pretty closely, and I have yet to hear much positive about Aiken. I've seen good reports about every other guy listed here except for him, I wouldn't be surprised if he ended up being the odd man out unless he just balls out in the preseason games.

Aiken was the best receiver in the night scrimmage.  He's been coming along, he'll be here.

[akcolt]

2 hours ago, krunk said:

So far Mitchels been healthy the whole way so we'll see.   Margus Hunt has gotten some mentions but you missed them I guess.  Pagano spoke of him directly once and then another reporter made a comment.

Guess so I'm not sure how Hunt is a guy I wanted to see if the move to the 3-4 could unlock his potential. I know he's 29 but stranger things have happened. 

 

I heard the coaches talk about Powell's versatility but missed the move to CB. He has the size 6'2 212lbs ball skills and athleticism. I think his better suited for CB. I like this move. He should be PS eligible too.  

 

I like Mitchel have always thought he had the tools to play on Sunday. It's difficult to believe I think you have to go back to his freshman year at Arkansas to find a healthy season. 

 

I hope Milton makes a jump similar to the one it looks like Morrison is making. I didn't see that coming. I thought Jackson would be in the mix and I like Rhodes. Spence is the real head scratcher.This is still the group I will be watching closely. 

 

There is still a lot of questions to be answered. The depth chart is fun for conversation but it was put together without playing a game. 

[LJpalmbeacher2]

Banner is the backup RT?

So if Clark goes down with a injury Banner is our RT?

[RockThatBlue]

7 hours ago, tweezy32 said:

Quincy Wilson 3rd string???  Though he was doing a good job...  Hooker should be starting with butler...  And hopefully the switching of mewhort works and helps the online become better. 

Eh, preseason depth charts practically mean nothing. They always change.

[PrincetonTiger]

Just now, RockThatBlue said:

Eh, preseason depth charts practically mean nothing. They always change.

Nicely put

[SaturdayAllDay]

2 minutes ago, LJpalmbeacher said:

Banner is the backup RT?

So if Clark goes down with a injury Banner is our RT?

While its possible, it is more likely that we move Haeg/Mewhort/Good over in that situation. Depth charts wont have players listed in multiple positions when you have 90 man rosters and have to fit them all on it somehow. 

[RockThatBlue]

1 minute ago, PrincetonTiger said:

Nicely put

Preseason depth charts are good for conversation I guess. But as I said they always change. The meaningful depth chart will be the one before the Rams game.

[PrincetonTiger]

1 minute ago, RockThatBlue said:

Preseason depth charts are good for conversation I guess. But as I said they always change. The meaningful depth chart will be the one before the Rams game.

IMO they are not even good for that