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ESPN's Bill Barnwell grades every team's entire offseason - Colts get an A-

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Also should be known that he gave us the highest grade in the AFC South (Texans C+, Jags B+, Titans B) and we have the highest grade in the NFL right now with NFC South/West and AFC West coming out later this week, no other team currently is above B+ except us.

 

Edit 5/23: NFC South is out, we still have the best grade and only A-

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This seems pretty accurate.   All could change, but I like it on paper.   

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Based on the way Clark played in the last 2 games of these season and how Haeg and Good developed over the course of the season, I actually feel pretty comfortable with our OL.

 

Kelly was very solid as a rookie and should only improve -- Haeg, I thought, was solid though he needed to add some strength this offseason (which there isn't really reason to believe he couldn't have done that) and showed that he could play both G and T. 

 

Schwenke has also started in this league and can play G or C.

 

There's always room for improvement, but IMO, this is the best line Luck will have had to date in his NFL Career (that's not really saying much, but I am more optimistic about the OL going into this season than I have been in a long time). 

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Around the NFL, there is still great concern about our OL.

 

The reason why I don't share that concern to the same level is one man.....    Joe Philbin.

 

I think Philbin has told Ballard the pieces are here,  they just need time and experience.   

 

So,  in Philbin I trust and I'm impressed that Ballard,  in his first year,  trusted Philbin to this extent.   I like Banner very much and believe he'll be part of our starting OL in the years to come.

 

But all in all,  Philbin is the guy who makes this go.....

 

 

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17 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said:

 

Around the NFL, there is still great concern about our OL.

 

The reason why I don't share that concern to the same level is one man.....    Joe Philbin.

 

I think Philbin has told Ballard the pieces are here,  they just need time and experience.   

 

So,  in Philbin I trust and I'm impressed that Ballard,  in his first year,  trusted Philbin to this extent.   I like Banner very much and believe he'll be part of our starting OL in the years to come.

 

But all in all,  Philbin is the guy who makes this go.....

 

 

I know we are biased but I agree, we see it more granular than they do. 3/5ths of the OL could start on any team. The right side is coming along, but was good enough to win 8 games, and if our defense moves from 30th to even 25 then that is the difference between winning and losing games against Detroit in week 1, Texans on SNF, and Jags in London.

 

Until the Jags aren't picking in the top 5, I do not care how much people are in love with them. Until the Titans can beat us (it's been years), I do not care how much people are in love with them. Until the Texans win a playoff game against a team with an actual QB that we didn't have to take out for them, I do not care how much people are in love with them. 

 

We had what it took to win the division last year and blew it, we had as good of an offseason as you can have on paper, let's hope things start to come together.

 

 

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13 minutes ago, bababooey said:

I know we are biased but I agree, we see it more granular than they do. 3/5ths of the OL could start on any team. The right side is coming along, but was good enough to win 8 games, and if our defense moves from 30th to even 25 then that is the difference between winning and losing games against Detroit in week 1, Texans on SNF, and Jags in London.

 

Until the Jags aren't picking in the top 5, I do not care how much people are in love with them. Until the Titans can beat us (it's been years), I do not care how much people are in love with them. Until the Texans win a playoff game against a team with an actual QB that we didn't have to take out for them, I do not care how much people are in love with them. 

 

We had what it took to win the division last year and blew it, we had as good of an offseason as you can have on paper, let's hope things start to come together.

 

 

And ...

FWIW, I get the feeling players are buying in now, mostly because they see real leadership and decision making in our GM.

No source, just a gut feeling.

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6 minutes ago, BR-549 said:

And ...

FWIW, I get the feeling players are buying in now, mostly because they see real leadership and decision making in our GM.

No source, just a gut feeling.

When you bring in guys from good defensive teams like Hankins, Sheard, and Simon, in addition to Ballard from Kansas City and then have a strong draft and a rejuvenated group of guys that are all Grigson era guys you may see us take a 2015 Carolina/Denver or 2016 Atlanta like step and exceed expectations similar to 2012.

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5 minutes ago, bababooey said:

When you bring in guys from good defensive teams like Hankins, Sheard, and Simon, in addition to Ballard from Kansas City and then have a strong draft and a rejuvenated group of guys that are all Grigson era guys you may see us take a 2015 Carolina/Denver or 2016 Atlanta like step and exceed expectations similar to 2012.

That would be awesome.

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1 hour ago, bababooey said:

I know we are biased but I agree, we see it more granular than they do. 3/5ths of the OL could start on any team. The right side is coming along, but was good enough to win 8 games, and if our defense moves from 30th to even 25 then that is the difference between winning and losing games against Detroit in week 1, Texans on SNF, and Jags in London.

 

Until the Jags aren't picking in the top 5, I do not care how much people are in love with them. Until the Titans can beat us (it's been years), I do not care how much people are in love with them. Until the Texans win a playoff game against a team with an actual QB that we didn't have to take out for them, I do not care how much people are in love with them. 

 

We had what it took to win the division last year and blew it, we had as good of an offseason as you can have on paper, let's hope things start to come together.

 

 

 

Well said. This is exactly how I feel. I am not too concerned about the AFC South to be completely honest. Yes we blew it against the Texans both times but I think that coming into this year with an improved defense (its impossible to get worse than what we had last year) and improvement along the offensive line, I am feeling good.  The Titans and Jags never scare me too much and as long as Watson in Houston doesn't come out the gate like a Pro-Bowler, we will be fine. We won 8 games last year with a lackluster offensive line and an atrocious defense. Imagine how many we can win with a healthy Luck, an improved O-Line, and a mediocre defense. 

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Now it's time to start focusing on Chuck and his staff.  They need to develop young talent.  We have potentially 3 pro bowl caliber safeties on our roster.  I need to see them develop into that.  I also need to see the DC come up with a scheme to have all those guys on the field on most passing downs if healthy.

 

The bodies (when healthy) are there, the flexibility is there, the athleticism is there, it's just time for the coaching and coaching up to be there as well.

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3 hours ago, lollygagger8 said:

 

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I knew it wouldn't be long... 

 

Looks like me when my wife says she gets overtime this week

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In all the years I have been watching football (more than I like to admit), I consider this off season for Chris Ballard among the best I have seen for filling needs with quality impact players. I can see scenarios where each of the eight draft picks could make significant contributions. The DBs will make or break the defense IMHO. I am worried about the O-line being young but the offense still scored pretty well. I just want to see Monachino and Pagano do their defensive coaching thing. If so, the Colts just might be pretty good.

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I'm just amazed that anybody at ESPN gave our draft & acquisitions an A. Usually, their writers heap all the praise on Luck, slam our owner, & claim we can't win against playoff caliber teams. 

 

This temporary 'love fest' for INDY is just a byproduct of unloading Grigson. They'll be back to ignoring us once the regular season starts. LOL! I like being under estimated. It lowers expectations & makes other squads dismiss us at their own peril. Keep doing it reporters. I prefer the element of surprise anyway. 

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We have to beat the stealers. I would call that success to the offseason. Am I holding a personal grudge against them. Yes I am. I'll PO'd is we lose to them, I hate them lol 

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11 hours ago, southwest1 said:

I'm just amazed that anybody at ESPN gave our draft & acquisitions an A. Usually, their writers heap all the praise on Luck, slam our owner, & claim we can't win against playoff caliber teams. 

 

This temporary 'love fest' for INDY is just a byproduct of unloading Grigson. They'll be back to ignoring us once the regular season starts. LOL! I like being under estimated. It lowers expectations & makes other squads dismiss us at their own peril. Keep doing it reporters. I prefer the element of surprise anyway. 

On the flip side, Peter King and the MMQB have us at 24 while Tennessee is at 4.

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2 hours ago, NewColtsFan said:

 

By the way.....

 

Our A- grade was the HIGHEST in the division.

 

 

I mentioned that in my quote underneath my original post, we currently have the only A- in the entire NFL, with two more division write ups to be published tomorrow and Thursday.

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On 5/22/2017 at 9:59 AM, Myles said:

This seems pretty accurate.   All could change, but I like it on paper.   

 

4 hours ago, bababooey said:

I mentioned that in my quote underneath my original post, we currently have the only A- in the entire NFL, with two more division write ups to be published tomorrow and Thursday.

 

Let the Paper Tiger roar!

 

I joke, but this team looks much better on paper.  I just hope it translates to on-field success.

 

If Pagano can't get this team over the hump in the next year or two, he may be following Grigson.  And if Pagano follows Grigson, what does that say about Irsay and his decisions in 2011/2012?  Besides the obvious "Hey new GM guy, draft Luck, or else..."  has he done anything that Carlie couldn't have done better?

 

:dunno:

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10 hours ago, bababooey said:

I mentioned that in my quote underneath my original post, we currently have the only A- in the entire NFL, with two more division write ups to be published tomorrow and Thursday.

 

No one from AFC west should get A- but from NFC west, 49ers have pretty strong case.

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5 hours ago, Finball said:

 

No one from AFC west should get A- but from NFC west, 49ers have pretty strong case.

True, the only thing they were missing was trading for Cousins.

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AFC West is in, we still have the best grade. Raiders, Chiefs, Chargers all got C+ and Denver got a B.

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14 minutes ago, bababooey said:

AFC West is in, we still have the best grade. Raiders, Chiefs, Chargers all got C+ and Denver got a B.

 

I'm trying to temper my optimism, but I think this has been the best off-season in Colts history.

 

I can't wait to see the results!

 

But we could still end up 8-8 and miss the playoffs.  Again.

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A- sounds about right. And Barnwell seems to be one of the few analysts who actually has a clear understanding of the Colts as he understands how Grigson set us back and how it's his fault Luck hasn't reached his potential. I think an A- is accurate. The Colts took the most strides on defense in one Ballard offseason than they took all 5 years of Grigson's reign. He also got rid of a very bad contract with Allen and got a 4th in return. He also completely changed the culture by cutting under achieving veterans like Jackson, Cole, and Jones while also bringing in a bunch of young competition. He avoided bringing in old guys past their prime, which was a big issue. IMO it's easily the 2nd best offseason of any team in the NFL. They didn't just get new players, they got better as an organization.

 

Ballard was the best offseason acquisition IMO

 

 

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On 5/24/2017 at 3:58 AM, Finball said:

 

No one from AFC west should get A- but from NFC west, 49ers have pretty strong case.

Niners got a B-, nobody got an A- except us so there's that...

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21 hours ago, Coffeedrinker said:

Woo hoo the Colts are off season winners.  Next stop Superbowl.

 

My sarcasm senses are all tingly right now.

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On ‎5‎/‎24‎/‎2017 at 4:33 PM, Coffeedrinker said:

Woo hoo the Colts are off season winners.  Next stop Superbowl.

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On 5/22/2017 at 0:35 PM, tikyle said:

Now it's time to start focusing on Chuck and his staff.  They need to develop young talent.  We have potentially 3 pro bowl caliber safeties on our roster.  I need to see them develop into that.  I also need to see the DC come up with a scheme to have all those guys on the field on most passing downs if healthy.

 

The bodies (when healthy) are there, the flexibility is there, the athleticism is there, it's just time for the coaching and coaching up to be there as well.

 

TBH, I am a bit concerned about Geathers' neck.  Regardless, with a healthy Hooker I think we can be OK there as Butler and Green should be able to at least have positive contributions (ideally, I'd like to see Butler back in the slot with Hooker as a true FS and Green/Geathers acting as hybrids).

 

What we really need to help the secondary is a pass rush.  There is not much for me to believe we can possibly be worse than last year and the additions of Hankins (to eat up blockers) as well as Sheard, Basham, Simon, and the return to form of Anderson (and hopefully Langford) ought to really bode well for us compared to last year.  If we're not at least putting fear into opposing QBs and they are getting all day to go through progressions and get the ball out clean, it won't matter much who is in the secondary. 

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