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[rockywoj]

Maurice Jones Drew dissing Luck, calling him a turnover machine ... Fact based on stats MJD throws out = 13.6 ints per year average = NOT a turnover machine.

MJD dissing Manning as having been way over rated.

MJD = former player that has pretty much lost most of my respect.  He is not a guy that knows of what he speaks.

 

Bruce Murray doing his best to discredit MJD.  Go, Bruce Murray, Go.

 

Oh, also, Bruce Murray proclaimed that his pick is the Colts to win the AFC South in 2017.  Bruce Murray, smart.  MJD, not.  They ought to do less MJD and more James Lofton as Bruce Murray's sidekick.

 

[GoColts8818]

not shocking to see a former division rival hate the team that stood in his team's way in terms of success. Just ignore it and move on. 

[will426]

Lol I mean he has a great reason..how often did they beat us? 

[Boiler_Colt]

Well, did MJD ever win a playoff game? And he got really fat, so there's that.

[2006Coltsbestever]

What has MJD ever won? Peyton won 2 SB's with 2 different teams and won 5 League MVP's. Peyton is a Top 5 QB of all-time at worse, I think Top 3. Andrew Luck is already Good and has Great potential and has made a Championship Game. MJD was always sitting on his fat behind watching the Playoffs. Jags never even won the Division while he was there  

[PeterBowman]

He's still bitter because he was told by Dungy that the Colts would draft him in the first but Polian overruled and drafted Addai instead.

[KB]

He's just jealous he didn't become a colt. The way history unfolded I'm happy that he didn't. If we would of grabbed him we would of been a much better team while manning was here but we wouldn't of gotten luck. He demolished us that last game of the year which gave us that number one pick. Funny how things work out.

[csmopar]

7 minutes ago, PeterBowman said:

He's still bitter because he was told by Dungy that the Colts would draft him in the first but Polian overruled and drafted Addai instead.

This^^^

[ColtsBlitz]

Someone say Blitz?

[ColtsBlueFL]

MJD has bitter disputes with Murray all of the time.  But when Murray said the South (AFC) is open for the taking by everyone EXCEPT the Jags, MJD got very defensive.  Began calling Luck a 'turnover machine'..  Bruce admitted that while the Colts, Texans, or Titans could win it (and not the Jaguars) this year, he felt the Colts would be the team to actually do it.  MJD took the Jags.  Just homerism against his on air nemesis.  ;-)

[Dingus McGirt]

Listening to the live broadcast, all I came away with:  They sure brought a Colts-hater on air.  Absolutely blatant disrespect from him.  Can't blame him, though - he was on a crap team his entire career.

 

[GoDeep]

You know, I'm not really bothered by his comments.  The eye test tells me that Luck is an excellent QB...but he is good for one throw every game or two where he hits a DB in the numbers. 

[CR91]

19 hours ago, Boiler_Colt said:

Well, did MJD ever win a playoff game? And he got really fat, so there's that.

 

One in 2007 I think vs the Steelers

[2006Coltsbestever]

1 minute ago, GoDeep said:

You know, I'm not really bothered by his comments.  The eye test tells me that Luck is an excellent QB...but he is good for one throw every game or two where he hits a DB in the numbers. 

What's funny is Peyton Manning had much more INT's in his first 5 seasons than Luck has had. Not only that in 2009 when Peyton won MVP he threw 16 INT's which was more than what Luck had last season. Nobody has ever called Peyton a Turnover machine except in his rookie season.

[2006Coltsbestever]

Just now, CR91 said:

 

One in 2007 I think vs the Steelers

You are correct, his only win.

[CR91]

Maybe he's still butt hurt we passed on him in 06 and took addai

[2006Coltsbestever]

1 minute ago, CR91 said:

Maybe he's still butt hurt we passed on him in 06 and took addai

He probably is because he would've had a Ring.

[Boiler_Colt]

43 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

What's funny is Peyton Manning had much more INT's in his first 5 seasons than Luck has had. Not only that in 2009 when Peyton won MVP he threw 16 INT's which was more than what Luck had last season. Nobody has ever called Peyton a Turnover machine except in his rookie season.

Yeah, not to mention Brees, Eli Manning, and Rivers never get called that when all three of them throw high numbers of INT's every year. Peyton just generated a lot of jealousy and hate for this franchise and it's bled over to Luck.

[2006Coltsbestever]

1 minute ago, Boiler_Colt said:

Yeah, not to mention Brees, Eli Manning, and Rivers never get called that when all three of them throw high numbers of INT's every year. Peyton just generated a lot of jealousy and hate for this franchise and it's bled over to Luck.

I agree, Luck is far from a Turnover machine. I cringe when people in the media call him that. There are many other QB's that throw way more INT's. Luck IMO is put at a different standard than most because he was drafted #1 and was being compared to Elway out of college.

[jseg18]

He's lucky Bob Sanders wasn't healthy his whole career.

 

 

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[TheMarine]

Luck is a "What the flying BarfWagonSnotRiderFlamboozle was that throw?" at least once a game. Not the same as a turn-over machine. 

 

He'll then follow up the BarfWagonSnotRiderFlamboozle with clutch throw, of course

[Yoshinator]

20 minutes ago, Boiler_Colt said:

Yeah, not to mention Brees, Eli Manning, and Rivers never get called that when all three of them throw high numbers of INT's every year. Peyton just generated a lot of jealousy and hate for this franchise and it's bled over to Luck.

Brees put up 40 points a game a lot of the time and just dominates games, so he gets a pass from the media. Eli, despite being worse than Luck, has beaten the Pats to win 2 SBs, so he is given the benefit of the doubt. Rivers I disagree with you on. I hear everybody call him a turnover machine all the time. He gets roasted as much as Luck. Luck is a turnover machine because of his COMBINED int's and fumbles, not just the former. He's cost us a handful of games turning the ball over.

[2006Coltsbestever]

17 minutes ago, Jared Cisneros said:

Brees put up 40 points a game a lot of the time and just dominates games, so he gets a pass from the media. Eli, despite being worse than Luck, has beaten the Pats to win 2 SBs, so he is given the benefit of the doubt. Rivers I disagree with you on. I hear everybody call him a turnover machine all the time. He gets roasted as much as Luck. Luck is a turnover machine because of his COMBINED int's and fumbles, not just the former. He's cost us a handful of games turning the ball over.

You seem to be giving guys a pass because they won a SB. So they shouldn't be labeled Turn Over Machines? Would you label Brett Favre and Peyton Manning Turn Over Machines? If you combine Fumbles and INT's both had more than Luck in their first 5 years than Luck has had. Luck has had some head scratching Turnovers but he isn't a Turn Over Machine compared to many of the greats of all-time actually. Terry Bradshaw won 4 SB's and had 212 TD's and 210 INT's during his career . He had some silly fumbles too.

[Yoshinator]

Just now, 2006Coltsbestever said:

You seem to be giving guys a pass because they won a SB. so they shouldn't be labeled Turn Over Machines. Would you label Brett Favre and Peyton Manning Turn Over Machines? If you combine Fumbles and INT's both had more than Luck in their first 5 years than Luck has had. Luck has had some head scratching Turnovers but he isn't a Turn Over Machine compared to many of the greats of all-time actually. Terry Bradshaw won 4 SB's and had 212 TD's and 210 INT's during his career . He had some silly fumbles too.

If Andrew Luck could be Brett Favre or Peyton Manning, I would take that 100 out of 100 times. Right now, he is like them without anywhere near the accomplishments (most importantly a SB win), that's why he doesn't get the benefit of the doubt like other QBs do. That and his hype coming out of the draft compared to what he has and hasn't done. We haven't even beat the Steelers or Pats in a game with him at QB yet, so he doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt.

[2006Coltsbestever]

4 minutes ago, Jared Cisneros said:

If Andrew Luck could be Brett Favre or Peyton Manning, I would take that 100 out of 100 times. Right now, he is like them without anywhere near the accomplishments (most importantly a SB win), that's why he doesn't get the benefit of the doubt like other QBs do. That and his hype coming out of the draft compared to what he has and hasn't done. We haven't even beat the Steelers or Pats in a game with him at QB yet, so he doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt.

I disagree, he won 11 games his first 3 seasons and led us to an AFC Championship Game so he deserves some benefit of the doubt IMO. Nobody thought the Colts would win more than 5 games in 2012 and we won 11. You like many others just look at Championships won by players as the all important thing in judging a player. While I agree winning Championships is the most important thing and what players play for, it shouldn't define a QB's career, Marino never won a SB and he's Top 10 ever. So basically, you are telling me if Luck wins 1 SB but throws 16 INT's and Fumbles 4 times a season on average that he shouldn't be considered a Turn Over Machine? because he has a SB win.

[Yoshinator]

3 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

I disagree, he won 11 games his first 3 seasons and led us to an AFC Championship Game so he deserves some benefit of the doubt IMO. Nobody thought the Colts would win more than 5 games in 2012 and we won 11. You like many others just look at Championships won by players as the all important thing in judging a player. While I agree winning Championships is the most important thing and what players play for, it shouldn't define a QB's career, Marino never won a SB and he's Top 10 ever. So basically, you are telling me if Luck wins 1 SB but throws 16 INT's and Fumbles 4 times a season on average that he shouldn't be considered a Turn Over Machine? because he has a SB win.

If Luck does that, but has a career close to Manning's and wins a SB, I will still consider him a turnover machine, but probably also consider him top ten all time. Marino is one of the greatest of all time, but he also got very unlucky and was well ahead of his time. Luck hasn't shown anything close to Marino, and hasn't even beat either of the top 2 teams in the AFC in 5 years at QB so far. As long as Brady plays, there's nothing that makes me think Luck can even have a chance. Derek Carr made Luck look like a rookie when we played the Raiders last year. The AFC South is becoming competitive. Luck is going from elite to above average very quickly, and if he doesn't improve to the next level quickly, the Colts will become just another team. 11 wins in 3 years straight doesn't mean much when you can't beat the top two teams in the conference (maybe top 3 with the Raiders now).

[2006Coltsbestever]

1 minute ago, Jared Cisneros said:

If Luck does that, but has a career close to Manning's and wins a SB, I will still consider him a turnover machine, but probably also consider him top ten all time. Marino is one of the greatest of all time, but he also got very unlucky and was well ahead of his time. Luck hasn't shown anything close to Marino, and hasn't even beat either of the top 2 teams in the AFC in 5 years at QB so far. As long as Brady plays, there's nothing that makes me think Luck can even have a chance. Derek Carr made Luck look like a rookie when we played the Raiders last year. The AFC South is becoming competitive. Luck is going from elite to above average very quickly, and if he doesn't improve to the next level quickly, the Colts will become just another team. 11 wins in 3 years straight doesn't mean much when you can't beat the top two teams in the conference (maybe top 3 with the Raiders now).

Denver has been better than Pittsburgh since Luck's rookie season actually and Luck is 3-1 vs them, so he has beaten great competition. He beat them in the Divisional Round at Denver as well. Peyton wasn't 100% but he still played and threw an early TD on us. Their Defense was completely healthy with Von miller as well. So Luck has beaten a Top team. We also beat the Seahawks the year they won the SB in 2013 and the Seahawks were awesome that season.

[Boiler_Colt]

48 minutes ago, Jared Cisneros said:

Brees put up 40 points a game a lot of the time and just dominates games, so he gets a pass from the media. Eli, despite being worse than Luck, has beaten the Pats to win 2 SBs, so he is given the benefit of the doubt. Rivers I disagree with you on. I hear everybody call him a turnover machine all the time. He gets roasted as much as Luck. Luck is a turnover machine because of his COMBINED int's and fumbles, not just the former. He's cost us a handful of games turning the ball over.

Legit question, do you think being blindsided and strip-sacked is more a function of the QB or the O-line?

[Yoshinator]

1 minute ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Denver has been better than Pittsburgh since Luck's rookie season actually and Luck is 3-1 vs them, so he has beaten great competition. He beat them in the Divisional Round at Denver as well. Peyton wasn't 100% but he still played and threw an early TD on us. Their Defense was completely healthy with Von miller as well. So Luck has beaten a Top team. We also beat the Seahawks the year they won the SB in 2013 and the Seahawks were awesome that season.

Beating Denver was nice. They are kind of a cakewalk now. It doesn't solve our problem though in the playoffs. Seahawks win was also fun, however, we don't face them in the playoffs either, so it's rare that we'll have to face them. I want to beat teams we need to beat.

[Yoshinator]

1 minute ago, Boiler_Colt said:

Legit question, do you think being blindsided and strip-sacked is more a function of the QB or the O-line?

More the O-line if it's really bad like it's been. However, if the QB has poor vision, it can also be on him. I'd say more on the O-Line if it gets dominated, but that shouldn't be a problem this year. Luck seems to fumble a lot whenever he gets sacked (more than the average QB).

[2006Coltsbestever]

3 minutes ago, Jared Cisneros said:

Beating Denver was nice. They are kind of a cakewalk now. It doesn't solve our problem though in the playoffs. Seahawks win was also fun, however, we don't face them in the playoffs either, so it's rare that we'll have to face them. I want to beat teams we need to beat.

Believe me I am as frustrated as you are that we get pounded by the Pats and Steelers every season. Stuff is getting old but Luck still has youth while Ben and Brady are getting older.

[Restored]

MJD is just salty that the Colts won the Super Bowl the same amount of times Jacksonville made the playoffs when he was there.

[Boiler_Colt]

2 minutes ago, Jared Cisneros said:

More the O-line if it's really bad like it's been. However, if the QB has poor vision, it can also be on him. I'd say more on the O-Line if it gets dominated, but that shouldn't be a problem this year. Luck seems to fumble a lot whenever he gets sacked (more than the average QB).

Yeah, I seem to put that on the o-line. If you're blindsided, I can't really fault the QB for that. They aren't in a position to secure the ball like a ball carrier at that point. That said, Andrew doesn't tuck and take the sack like a Brady or Manning used to and that gets him in trouble. So I don't really think he has a fumbling issue, he just gets sacked way too much and it's skewing the results.

 

As far as INT's his total INT numbers are average. It's the type of INT's he throws that are disconcerting. Balls that should have never been thrown. Personally, I think Bruce Arian's offense instilled a lot of bad habits in him. I know that opinion may be unpopular, but when Luck played in the Stanford's West Coast offense, you didn't see nearly the amount of bad throws.

[Mr. Irrelevant]

2 minutes ago, Boiler_Colt said:

Personally, I think Bruce Arian's offense instilled a lot of bad habits in him. I know that opinion may be unpopular, but when Luck played in the Stanford's West Coast offense, you didn't see nearly the amount of bad throws.

I think you're on to something here...

[AZColt11]

He's a member of the media, and media members are PAYED to create interest, be that negative or positive.  Of course positivity is in the eye of the beholder, but either way if you are creating polarity you are creating interest, which in turn creates more of an audience.  He's doing what he's being payed to do, nothing more. 

 

I don't have a problem with it.  i don't need to hear or read that every media member is kissing the Colts' collective butts.  I know what I feel about these players and this guy isn't going to change my mind.  Heck, some of these people don't even believe what they are saying, they are just generating buzz.  And as was pointed out, he has a natural dislike for all things Colts because he was on a team that generally got its butt kicked by the Colts when he was playing.  I wouldn't get too excited about it.