Bust or Pro Bowler or Neither

[danlhart87]

Let's discuss this class and your expectations 

 

Either label them bust pro bowler or neither meaning they will be good

 

Myles Garrett PB

Mitch Trubisky N

Solomon Thomas PB

Leonard Fournette N

Corey Davis N

Jamal Adams B

Mike Williams N

Christian McCaffrey N

John Ross B

Patrick Mahomes PB

Marshon Lattimore N

Deshaun Watson N

Haasan Reddick PB

Derek Barnett B

Malik Hooker N

Marlon Humphrey N

Jonathan Allen B

Adoree Jackson PB

OJ Howard PB

Garrett Bolles PB

Jarrad Davis N

Charles Harris N

Evan Engram N

Gareon Conley N

Jabrill Peppers B

Takk McKinley B

Tre White N

Taco Charlton B

David Njoku B

TJ Watt PB 

Reuben Foster N

Ryan Ramczyk PB

 

[aaron11]

i dont follow enough to do them all but i can see hooker making at least one pro bowl

 

if he can get like 4 ints in a year and be at least average at tackling that should be enough to get the voters attention

[Yoshinator]

Myles Garrett PB

Mitch Trubisky B

Solomon Thomas PB

Leonard Fournette PB

Corey Davis B

Jamal Adams PB

Mike Williams N

Christian McCaffrey N

John Ross B

Patrick Mahomes PB

Marshon Lattimore B

Deshaun Watson N

Haasan Reddick PB

Derek Barnett B

Malik Hooker PB

Marlon Humphrey N

Jonathan Allen B

Adoree Jackson B

OJ Howard PB

Garrett Bolles B

Jarrad Davis N

Charles Harris N

Evan Engram B

Gareon Conley PB

Jabrill Peppers B

Takk McKinley N

Tre White B

Taco Charlton B

David Njoku N

TJ Watt PB 

Reuben Foster N

Ryan Ramczyk N

 

Here are mine. About 1/2 of players drafted in the 1st round are busts, so I graded a little more harsh than you.

[SP_21]

I don't think Solomon Thomas is going to be a bust but he will never live up to his draft position. Doesn't really have a position and probably won't be utilized correctly. 

 

Jarrad Davis is another guy I think is going to disappoint. He can't take on blockers in the run game. 

[Gabriel Alexander Morillo]

How come you think Hooker is a neither player? 

[danlhart87]

47 minutes ago, Gabriel Alexander Morillo said:

How come you think Hooker is a neither player? 

He's going to be a solid contributor but will need to work on tackling. 

 

The PB from the Colts will be Quincy Wilson 

[ColtsBlitz]

Jamal Adams a bust? I thought he was good

[tvturner]

Myles Garrett PB

Mitch Trubisky B

Solomon Thomas PB

Leonard Fournette N

Corey Davis B

Jamal Adams N

Mike Williams B

Christian McCaffrey PB

John Ross B

Patrick Mahomes PB

Marshon Lattimore N

Deshaun Watson B

Haasan Reddick PB

Derek Barnett N

Malik Hooker PB

Marlon Humphrey B

Jonathan Allen N

Adoree Jackson B

OJ Howard PB

Garrett Bolles N

Jarrad Davis N

Charles Harris N

Evan Engram B

Gareon Conley N

Jabrill Peppers PB

Takk McKinley N

Tre White N

Taco Charlton N

David Njoku N

TJ Watt PB 

Reuben Foster PB

Ryan Ramczyk N

[OLD FAN MAN]

dont know till they play against nfl talent

[aaron11]

im bored ill play along now

 

Myles Garrett PB

Mitch Trubisky B

Solomon Thomas N

Leonard Fournette PB- i think he has top 5 potential

Corey Davis N

Jamal Adams N

Mike Williams B

Christian McCaffrey N

John Ross N

Patrick Mahomes B

Marshon Lattimore N

Deshaun Watson N- tough call, anyone's guess

Haasan Reddick N

Derek Barnett B

Malik Hooker PB

Marlon Humphrey B

Jonathan Allen N

Adoree Jackson B

OJ Howard PB

Garrett Bolles N

Jarrad Davis N

Charles Harris B

Evan Engram N

Gareon Conley N

Jabrill Peppers ???

Takk McKinley N

Tre White N

Taco Charlton B

David Njoku N

TJ Watt N

Reuben Foster PB

Ryan Ramczyk N

 

 

[COLTS449]

I'll do mine in a minute.....But why the hate on the wide outs, Engram, and the pass rushers? I think Takk is going to be a star. I think Evan Engram can be special, and I think all 3 of the WR's are going to be very good. My list of busts would start at Mitchy  True and end at Bolls. But we'll all be wrong. A few years ago I was convinced Kelvin Benjamin had bust written across his forehead, and he's been a beast from jump street. We all thought Derrick Henry would SUCK LOL. Not to brag, but I'm a little better at projecting EDGE rushers than I am a lot of other positions, but I still hit and miss, but yeah. So my list may surprise. Give me a min.

[COLTS449]

1) It's supposed to be Pro Bowl Caliber, Bust, or Neither. But instead of "N" for neither I'm going to put "G" for Good-Very good player.

 

2) I think this is a very good and deep draft, and I don't think there'll be a ton of bust in the first...Even the first 2 RD's. Good class for the most part IMO. So here we go.............

 

Myles Garrett PB - BUT.....Not the best EDGE rusher to come from this class. Much like the Clowney debacle. Takk or Williams could be the better pure pass rushers IMO.

 

Mitch Trubisky - B-U-S-T.... Bust - Bust -Bust !!!!!! What a stupid move. Make me eat those words Mitchy boy.

 

Solomon Thomas - G - Very Good Player for a long time.

 

Leonard Fournette PB - I agree he has top 5 RB potential

 

Corey Davis - G He'll be a beast, and a very good wide receiver, but no Jones, Green, OBJ, Brown, Bryant, etc.

 

Jamal Adams - PB - Beast.

 

Mike Williams - G - Same as Davis ^^^^^

 

Christian McCaffrey - G - Who knows. Has the talent, but IMO. Move him to the slot and still let him carry it 4-5 times, screen passes, and pull off some end arounds, and return punts/kicks.

 

John Ross - PB - 100. D-Jax 2.0 right here.

 

Patrick Mahomes - PB - Kid has a gunslinger mentality, with Bret Farve potential. Reid will help him become more than just a gunslinger, and the sky's the limit...

 

Marshon Lattimore PB - Why is he under valued ????? Kids a beast. SMH

 

Deshaun Watson Bust - "tough call, anyone's guess" Agree with whoever I copied this list from on this en lol.

 

Haasan Reddick - PB - Superstar. All you can say. And he'll be used mostly at ILB for Arizona as they have their 2 stud EDGE rushers, but they like to move guys around on sub packages. So he'll still be moved around and get some snaps at OLB too, . Look for 100plus tackles, 7-8 sacks, 10-12 PD's, 3-4 INT's a year from this kid.

 

Derek Barnett - Bust - Don't see a big time monster sack machine, I mean yeah, I could POSSIBLY see him eventually being a good player. Not great, but an all around DE/OLB whose better vs the run than getting after QB's. A guy will probably only give you 5-6 sacks per, but who plays the run well, and is a leader in the locker room. But JMO... I doubt if he even does that. So I'm saying bust. Overrated from this entire process JUST because he's a blue chip kid and for whatever reason people love that. Give me a white collar freak of nature. Keep you lunch pail guys.

 

Malik Hooker PB - Big time Steal. YEAH!!!!. Ed Reed, Earl Thomas type talent here. Superstar. Its not that he's a bad tackler, its the taking bad angles/positioning himself for tackles, His talent cant be taught as I said his ball skills and instincts are Reed, Thomas 2.0 off the charts, his tackling issues like I said are just technique. Our coaches will clean that up, and he'll be a superstar for years to come. Remember he only started what? 1 season? Yeah. And look what he done. He'll be a better tackler his rookie year than he was at OSU last year, and an all pro by his 2nd season. A true ball hawking centerfielder we've been needing for years.

 

Marlon Humphrey - G - He's gonna be a really good Corner. Maybe not a pro bowler, but at least a VERY solid number 2.

 

Jonathan Allen - PB - 2nd BIG TIME Steal. Argue all you want.... Special Talent. Dropped cause of injuries, but this kid is legit. All around DT, who's a great fit in a 3-4 as a DE. Can put up 7-8 plus sacks, and will be great vsthe run by his 2nd-3rd season. BEAST. Wouldn't have minded us taking him.

 

Adoree Jackson - Bust - Just don't see it. Bad pick IMO. He'll probably end up as a punt/kick returner,  and a number 4 Corner in 4-5 years.

 

OJ Howard - PB - Bama didn't use him like he should have been used IMO. one of many stud TE'sin this class including. Engram and Njoku....

 

Garrett Bolles - Bust - Bad pick, should have taken Rami or Lamp. SMH.

 

Jarrad Davis - G - Safe pick IMO. All around ILB. Sideline-Sideline type. Could be anywhere from a really good ILB to a superstar ILB.

 

Charles Harris - G- I went back and forth on him, still do. I think he could go either way. I just don't know. He could be a beast or a bust, it all depends, and we could find that out early in his career IMO. If he realizes his potential he's gonna be a double digit sack machine. The heck with the run, You got DT's and ILB's for that. You're an EDGE rusher. Give me 12-14 sacks !!!!!!

 

Evan Engram - G - don't see how anyone could see bust with Engram. This kid is the real deal. WR/TE combination. fast and Athletic, pass catching TE who's a combo of Mike Evans (WR) and Jordan Reed (TE) He's gonna be a nightmare for defenses. WR playing TE, and with the skills to do it.

 

Gareon Conley - G - Could be the best corner in this class, but I'd go with Sidney Jones. Conley has big time potential in a loaded class for corners. Another island, press man corner.

 

Jabrill Peppers - Bust - He'll never live up to the hype. I'm old school. Put a player in a position and call him a LB, S, whatever. They'll try to do everything with him, and he's no Bucannon IMO. Lets keep things traditional here, and he's overrated anyways.

 

Takk McKinley - PB - Relentless, non stop motor. Hard worker. Passionate. To go with his speed, burst, and athleticism.... LOVE this kid. He's going to be a game wrecking, double digit sack machine for years to come. Might be the 1st or 2nd best pass rusher in this class when we look back in 5 years. Or when we're looking back in 2-3 years. ATL is something to really fear even more now in the NFC.

 

Tre White - G - Will be a stud. A very good press man corner to pair with Darby for the next however many years. Really nice pick IMO..

 

Taco Charlton - G - Kinda boom or bust, but I think he's a boom. I could see him developing into a pro bowler and making 2-3 during his career assuming I'm right with my prediction. JPP meets Chandler Jones meets Carlos Dunlap. He's got that crazy size and length and athleticism combination. He's in a good fit in Dallas's 43 defense. I think he'll be their guy and put up 10ish sacks a year with a few 12-14 sack years.

 

David Njoku - G - May take him 2 years until they get a real QB (Kizer???)  but this kid is a major talent as far as his pass catching skills.

 

TJ Watt - G - Hard Working, relentless, lover of the game, he never gives up, has the bloodlines, and the best pass rushing teacher in the world to help him out with his technique. And...He has the talent, and ability to go with it. Not the freak some of these kids are, but he has what it takes to be a beast. He'll be a really good EDGE rusher IMO. No All Pro or nothing, but a very good player who, like some of these other kids with G or N next to their name. He may make a pro bowl or 2, but not a perennial PB or nothing I don't think. Never know though. He Probably puts up 10ish sacks a year with an 11plus sack year or two sprinkled in.

 

Reuben Foster - PB - No doubt, this kid is the REAL DEAL. Next GREAT ILB in the NFL. Simple as that. Nothing more to say.

 

Ryan Ramczyk - PB all the way baby !!!!! He and Lamp are/will be the best O-Linemen in this class. Book it. Good pick unlike that stupid Andres Peat pick a couple years ago.... Yuk.

[AZColt11]

The only one I'm interested in:

 

Malik Hooker - PB (not this year maybe but soon)

[Smonroe]

3 hours ago, AZColt11 said:

The only one I'm interested in:

 

Malik Hooker - PB (not this year maybe but soon)

 

Right on.  And the only B I'm concerned with getting to is the SB.

[SolomonThomasFanAccount]

Myles Garrett PBAAP

Mitch Trubisky B

Solomon Thomas PBAP

Leonard Fournette PBAP

Corey Davis PB

Jamal Adams B

Mike Williams PB

Christian McCaffrey PBAP

John Ross N

Patrick Mahomes B

Marshon Lattimore PBAP

Deshaun Watson PB

Haasan Reddick PB

Derek Barnett B

Malik Hooker PBAP

Marlon Humphrey PB

Jonathan Allen PB

Adoree Jackson B

OJ Howard PB

Garrett BollesN

Jarrad Davis PB

Charles Harris PB

Evan Engram N

Gareon Conley PB

Jabrill Peppers B

Takk McKinley PB

Tre White N

Taco Charlton PB marenelli factor

David Njoku PB 

TJ Watt N

Reuben Foster N

Ryan Ramczyk N

[2006Coltsbestever]

Why are people labeling Jamal Adams a Bust? Some thought he should've been drafted Top 3. Everything I have seen and heard about him has PB written all over it. Watching him play tells me he will be a PB, he may be better than Garrett as a Pro. He was a team leader at LSU. Malik Hooker will be a PB by year 3 as well as he has the physical talent to do so. Don't be surprised if Leonard Fournette struggles a bit, but it's because he plays for the Jags. Their O.Line and QB are suspect. Myles Garrett is another one that could struggle, playing for the Browns is no picnic.

[Dingus McGirt]

Trubisky...watch out.

[Qcolts]

 

Myles Garrett Pro bowler

Mitch Trubisky Solid starter

Solomon Thomas solid starter

Leonard Fournette Pro bowler

Corey Davis Solid starter

Jamal Adams Pro bowler

Mike Williams Solid starter

Christian McCaffrey Pro bowler 

John Ross Bust

Patrick Mahomes Solid starter

Marshon Lattimore Solid starter

Deshaun Watson Bust

Haasan Reddick Solid starter

Derek Barnett Solid starter

Malik Hooker Pro bowler

Marlon Humphrey Bust

Jonathan Allen Solid starter

Adoree Jackson Bust

OJ Howard Bust

Garrett Bolles Solid starter

Jarrad Davis Pro bowler

Charles Harris Solid starter

Evan Engram Pro bowler

Gareon Conley Bust

Jabrill Peppers Pro bowler

Takk McKinley Bust

Tre White Solid starter

Taco Charlton Solid starter

David Njoku Bust

TJ Watt Solid starter

Reuben Foster Pro bowler

Ryan Ramczyk PB

 

[BOTT]

On 5/4/2017 at 9:34 PM, OLD FAN MAN said:

dont know till they play against nfl talent

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/prediction

[Valpo2004]

Myles Garrett B

Mitch Trubisky B

Solomon Thomas N

Leonard Fournette N

Corey Davis N

Jamal Adams N

Mike Williams N

Christian McCaffrey B

John Ross B

Patrick Mahomes B

Marshon Lattimore PB

Deshaun Watson N

Haasan Reddick B

Derek Barnett N

Malik Hooker PB

Marlon Humphrey N

Jonathan Allen PB

Adoree Jackson PB

OJ Howard N

Garrett Bolles N

Jarrad Davis N

Charles Harris N

Evan Engram N

Gareon Conley N

Jabrill Peppers B

Takk McKinley B

Tre White N

Taco Charlton N

David Njoku N

TJ Watt N 

Reuben Foster N

Ryan Ramczyk N

[RockThatBlue]

On 5/6/2017 at 2:38 PM, BOTT said:

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/prediction

lol