Two Biggest Shockers For Round One?

[King Colt]

The Bears move was a shocker to me and I went on their forum and the fans re not happy to put it mildly. So much for the majority of the country believing there is no way Trubisky goes in the first round!

Second surprise was the very smart move by the Texans. When I saw their logo up on the board at #12 I smelled "Deshaun Watson" everywhere. Houston will be higher than a kite tomorrow.

[AZColt11]

Honestly, I would put Hooker being there at #15 right up there.  But for me, it's the fact that Jon Allen fell that far.  By all accounts he was top 5 for sure.

[weslo1812]

14 minutes ago, King Colt said:

The Bears move was a shocker to me and I went on their forum and the fans re not happy to put it mildly. So much for the majority of the country believing there is no way Trubisky goes in the first round!

Second surprise was the very smart move by the Texans. When I saw their logo up on the board at #12 I smelled "Deshaun Watson" everywhere. Houston will be higher than a kite tomorrow.

Texans trade smart... I don't know about that. They gave up alot just to move up and take a QB who COULD be good but is far from a sure thing and needs a fair amount of work. I think they potentially made a biiiiiig reach. 

[BPindy]

Chiefs moving up 17 spots to draft Mahomes. Insanity 

[Qwiz]

Trubisky and Mahomes trades surprised me the most. Never would've expected Williams to the Chargers, or Hooker falling to the Colts. 

[Pointz]

Trubisky and Mahomes trades surprised me the most. Never would've expected Williams to the Chargers, or Hooker falling to the Colts. 

Ditto. The biggest shock was the Trubisky trade. Allen's drop was not totally unexpected but still shocking.

[Qwiz]

5 minutes ago, Pointz said:

Ditto. The biggest shock was the Trubisky trade. Allen's drop was not totally unexpected but still shocking.

Yeah in my personal mock I had the 49ers taking Mitch second overall. I guess the Bears thought the same and decided to act. Even though they already have Glennon....

[Luck 4 president]

I don't think anyone saw Rueben Foster dropping to 31. I thought the colts were going to take him over Hooker. Every pick after that I  kept saying that team was going to get Foster lol. Also the chiefs trade was pretty crazy. If Mahomes works out they could be scary

[King Colt]

8 hours ago, weslo1812 said:

Texans trade smart... I don't know about that. They gave up alot just to move up and take a QB who COULD be good but is far from a sure thing and needs a fair amount of work. I think they potentially made a biiiiiig reach. 

When the best description of the QB roster for the history of the Texans is "catastrophic" combined with no good current player trade prospects I still say it was very smart and required as they are primed to win now. Granted  O'Brien's offense is complicated but that is in O'Brien's lap to see the new kid can help ASAP.

[King Colt]

6 hours ago, Qwiz said:

Trubisky and Mahomes trades surprised me the most. Never would've expected Williams to the Chargers, or Hooker falling to the Colts. 

KC's Smith is only 32 so the Mahomes deal is curious.

[SkyBane]

35 minutes ago, King Colt said:

When the best description of the QB roster for the history of the Texans is "catastrophic" combined with no good current player trade prospects I still say it was very smart and required as they are primed to win now. Granted  O'Brien's offense is complicated but that is in O'Brien's lap to see the new kid can help ASAP.

Backed in to a corner by a rabid fan base due to previous poor decision making doesn't really qualify as "smart" though. Desperate is a better word. They leveraged their entire 2018 draft for this guy. It's literally succeed with Watson this year, or do a complete rebuild in 2 years as you have no resources to improve next year. The move leaves the Texans exactly 0 room for error, and no safety nets to recover with. At no point would I classify any of that as "smart," it's just a salve for angry fans.

[rockywoj]

The Bears pick was the biggest shocker to me.  What a HORRIBLE trade, imho.

 

The run for offensive player in general was also a shocker to me.  Every time another WR or QB was taken, though, I was like "Yes!", for it meant that the Colts would have more and more options for a defensive game changing stud!

 

Until watching Mayock's mock the other night, I had never entertained the possibility the Hooker could possibly fall as far as he did.  I think the Colts got themselves a play making game changer of a steal!

 

Now if only Lamp can slide to the Colts in the 2nd round!

[Defjamz26]

The Chiefs trade up was shocking. 20 spots for Mahomes. I couldn't believe it.

[krunk]

10 hours ago, Qwiz said:

Trubisky and Mahomes trades surprised me the most. Never would've expected Williams to the Chargers, or Hooker falling to the Colts. 

Great to hear from you big homie!  Ain't seen you around in a while

[weslo1812]

4 hours ago, King Colt said:

When the best description of the QB roster for the history of the Texans is "catastrophic" combined with no good current player trade prospects I still say it was very smart and required as they are primed to win now. Granted  O'Brien's offense is complicated but that is in O'Brien's lap to see the new kid can help ASAP.

Because they are desperate = smart? I don't see it that way, especially when you look at what they gave up to get to that pick, and then the other players that were there that could have been much better picks although it wouldn't have addressed QB, but I really don't think it's smart to give up what they did just to get a guy that's essentially a 50/50 gamble as of right now. And now the texans are without a 1st or a 2nd round pick for the 2018 draft...that hurts. On top of it all, what's the Texans history with developing QB's, which Watson is gonna need a fair amount of? It's not very good as I recall. Just doesn't seem too smart to me. I actually think the Cards out of all teams that had a need for a QB played it smartest by not going with the desperation move and taking a huuuuge reach to fill a need.

[weslo1812]

3 hours ago, SkyBane said:

Backed in to a corner by a rabid fan base due to previous poor decision making doesn't really qualify as "smart" though. Desperate is a better word. They leveraged their entire 2018 draft for this guy. It's literally succeed with Watson this year, or do a complete rebuild in 2 years as you have no resources to improve next year. The move leaves the Texans exactly 0 room for error, and no safety nets to recover with. At no point would I classify any of that as "smart," it's just a salve for angry fans.

Can't like this post enough man!!! You hit the heart of it all right on the head!!! A big desperation move that better payoff big in season 1 or its gonna end up hurting big time!!!

[Qwiz]

6 hours ago, King Colt said:

KC's Smith is only 32 so the Mahomes deal is curious.

True, but he's supposed to be a free agent soon if I'm not mistaken. KC is looking ahead to the future. 

[Qwiz]

2 hours ago, krunk said:

Great to hear from you big homie!  Ain't seen you around in a while

Thanks bro! You know I gotta stick my head in when it's draft time 

[Qwiz]

2 hours ago, weslo1812 said:

Because they are desperate = smart? I don't see it that way, especially when you look at what they gave up to get to that pick, and then the other players that were there that could have been much better picks although it wouldn't have addressed QB, but I really don't think it's smart to give up what they did just to get a guy that's essentially a 50/50 gamble as of right now. And now the texans are without a 1st or a 2nd round pick for the 2018 draft...that hurts. On top of it all, what's the Texans history with developing QB's, which Watson is gonna need a fair amount of? It's not very good as I recall. Just doesn't seem too smart to me. I actually think the Cards out of all teams that had a need for a QB played it smartest by not going with the desperation move and taking a huuuuge reach to fill a need.

O'Brien got to the playoffs with dudes like Hoyer and Brock under center. Deshaun will be terrific. 

[chad72]

5 minutes ago, Qwiz said:

O'Brien got to the playoffs with dudes like Hoyer and Brock under center. Deshaun will be terrific. 

 

Yeah, him and Dabo Swinney had a heck of a time running those pick plays like the Peyton led Colts and Patriots do, at Clemson. I am sure O'Brien will notice that and implement a good short passing game and run support to open up shots down the field. 

[Qwiz]

4 minutes ago, chad72 said:

 

Yeah, him and Dabo Swinney had a heck of a time running those pick plays like the Peyton led Colts and Patriots do, at Clemson. I am sure O'Brien will notice that and implement a good short passing game and run support to open up shots down the field. 

No doubt. This is also the first time he's had a guy like Watson under center to work with. His skill set should add another dimension to the playbook. 

[MTC]

1. Bears trading up and selecting Mitchell Trubisky

2. Jonathan Allen and Malik Hooker sliding. 

[DougDew]

I don't know why Chicago needed to move up one spot for Tribisky after just committing money to Glennon.  It seems like they could have thought about moving up for him from pick 3 before the free agency period even started.

 

I thought KC moving up for Mahomes was a surprise.

 

Houston moving up for Watson was a good move.  I think Watson is underrated.

[Dudley Smith]

1. Bears - This move really doesn't make any sense on any level.

 

2. KC - This move makes sense as a high risk/high reward type move. It helps that there is good coaching there.

[King Colt]

Call the Texans move whatever you chose but it had to be for this coming season and beyond. If all teams remain as is the conference crown is not guaranteed to anyone with the Texans holding the edge. As for the Bears they apparently are not seeing a title this season and you all may know by now they planned this move a couple weeks ago and never told the head coach until an hour or two before the pick adding to the mystery. Anyway we should know more after this weekend. Just goes to show 100% of all pre-draft predictions are not anything more than hot air. 

[wig]

KC was shocking, but I applaud it. Willing to roll the dice for the ultimate prize. 

[weslo1812]

8 hours ago, Qwiz said:

O'Brien got to the playoffs with dudes like Hoyer and Brock under center. Deshaun will be terrific. 

You mean the defense, offense and your QB play was sub par at best, where did they carry you in the playoffs? Defense has carried the Texans. Watson has to learn how play from under center which in and of itself can generally take a couple years for a QB to learn atlotmnog other things. And for what ya gave up, I don't see it being worth it at all. But hey... we'll see what happens.

[Qwiz]

10 minutes ago, weslo1812 said:

You mean the defense, offense and your QB play was sub par at best, where did they carry you in the playoffs? Defense has carried the Texans. Watson has to learn how play from under center which in and of itself can generally take a couple years for a QB to learn atlotmnog other things. And for what ya gave up, I don't see it being worth it at all. But hey... we'll see what happens.

Miller had a fantastic season. Hopkins' production obviously declined bc of Brock. The offense as a whole is going to suffer when the QB is in over his head and getting into shouting matches with the HC. But Deshaun isn't Brock. I love what we did to get him. He's been said by many to be the best QB in this draft, and the Texans got him at #12. No complaints from me. Like you said, we'll see what happens. 

[weslo1812]

1 hour ago, Qwiz said:

Miller had a fantastic season. Hopkins' production obviously declined bc of Brock. The offense as a whole is going to suffer when the QB is in over his head and getting into shouting matches with the HC. But Deshaun isn't Brock. I love what we did to get him. He's been said by many to be the best QB in this draft, and the Texans got him at #12. No complaints from me. Like you said, we'll see what happens. 

Yeah...and I'm not trying say Watson is horrible or has no potential. He definitely has potential and he's a winner. My whole thing is just what they gave up to go as high as they did, and then the other players that were there that could have been had that were alot better value and could be instant impact guys instead reaching because of having a desperate need. And now Texans don't have a 1st or 2nd rounder next year which hurts.

[Gabriel Alexander Morillo]

11 hours ago, Qwiz said:

Thanks bro! You know I gotta stick my head in when it's draft time 

Must be ecstatic that Masha can compete at Tennis again 

[Qwiz]

7 hours ago, Gabriel Alexander Morillo said:

Must be ecstatic that Masha can compete at Tennis again 

Of course  There will still be people talking about the PED but I think she's ready and eager to shut them up. 

[FalseStart]

A little outside the box, but I thought the Colts might offer a 2nd and 4th to try to get back up into the first round...turns out we didn't need to...   Would love to know what our board looked like after the Hooker pick.