Gareon Conley accused of sexual assault (edit)

[CR91]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/04/25/unnamed-first-round-prospect-faces-sexual-assault-allegation-in-cleveland/

 

What the heck is wrong with this draft class?

[MPStack]

On 4/25/2017 at 11:57 AM, CR91 said:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/04/25/unnamed-first-round-prospect-faces-sexual-assault-allegation-in-cleveland/

 

 What the heck is wrong with this draft class?

 

Wow, this has to be about the stupidest draft class period.  Throwing millions away for weed, punching girls and now this. Good Lord.

[PrincetonTiger]

Wow wow wow

[PrincetonTiger]

5 minutes ago, MPStack said:

Wow, this has to be about the stupidest draft class period.  Throwing millions away for weed, punching girls and now this. Good Lord.

Agreed

[stitches]

Lets wait it out and see how it develops. The fact that the media is reluctant to publish the name gives some reason for caution about the allegation. I hope the police do their job.

[PrincetonTiger]

2 minutes ago, stitches said:

Lets wait it out and see how it develops. The fact that the media is reluctant to publish the name gives some reason for caution about the allegation. I hope the police do their job.

Agreed but the situation if true is very scary

[CR91]

3 minutes ago, stitches said:

Lets wait it out and see how it develops. The fact that the media is reluctant to publish the name gives some reason for caution about the allegation. I hope the police do their job.

 

Teams will find out by themselves so I don't see how the media holding back the name really helps

[PrincetonTiger]

1 minute ago, CR91 said:

 

Teams will find out by themselves so I don't see how the media holding back the name really helps

Agreed

[stitches]

4 minutes ago, CR91 said:

 

Teams will find out by themselves so I don't see how the media holding back the name really helps

It's about keeping the name out of public eye, more than keeping it from teams IMO. Teams will probably get the name. If I were to guess they don't want the guy's name to be dragged through the mud 2 days before the draft in case the allegations are not substantiated. It's usually not the job of the media to do that, and this is why I find it weird that they are not releasing the name. The only reason I can think of is - they migh have doubts about the veracity of the claims. Of course, all of this is just speculation on my part.

[PrincetonTiger]

1 minute ago, stitches said:

It's about keeping the name out of public eye, more than keeping it from teams IMO. Teams will probably get the name. If I were to guess they don't want the guy's name to be dragged through the mud 2 days before the draft in case the allegations are not substantiated. It's usually not the job of the media to do that, and this is why I find it weird that they are not releasing the name. The only reason I can think of is - they migh have doubts about the veracity of the claims.

But the teams are the ones who determine where player X goes in the draft

[CR91]

3 minutes ago, stitches said:

It's about keeping the name out of public eye, more than keeping it from teams IMO. Teams will probably get the name. If I were to guess they don't want the guy's name to be dragged through the mud 2 days before the draft in case the allegations are not substantiated. It's usually not the job of the media to do that, and this is why I find it weird that they are not releasing the name. The only reason I can think of is - they migh have doubts about the veracity of the claims. Of course, all of this is just speculation on my part.

 

Doesn't matter to us though. We're not the ones giving him millions of dollars

[PrincetonTiger]

Just now, CR91 said:

 

Doesn't matter to us though. We're not the ones giving him millions of dollars

Nicely put

[stitches]

11 minutes ago, PrincetonTiger said:

But the teams are the ones who determine where player X goes in the draft

 

9 minutes ago, CR91 said:

 

Doesn't matter to us though. We're not the ones giving him millions of dollars

 

Yes, but it will be the team's reputation on the line at draft night with all the media circulating stories about how team X has just drafted a rapist. Imagine the team knows with high level of certainty that the guy is innocent(through private investigators, through police work, etc). Would they still draft him where he's projected to go? Or would most teams just decide to save themselves the hastle and reputation hit and draft a player with clean image instead? Even if the guy gets cleared afterwards, a good portion of people would still think he did it and the team will still be the team that drafted a rapist.

[PrincetonTiger]

It would probably be easy to figure out who player X is

[richard pallo]

So, which 1st. rd prospect is from Cleveland?

[stitches]

Just now, richard pallo said:

So, which 1st. rd prospect is from Cleveland?

Trubisky. But I'm not sure there is enough info to conclude that it's a player from Cleveland.

[PrincetonTiger]

3 minutes ago, richard pallo said:

So, which 1st. rd prospect is from Cleveland?

That is what I was thinking

[PrincetonTiger]

3 minutes ago, stitches said:

Trubisky. But I'm not sure there is enough info to conclude that it's a player from Cleveland.

Okay then which first round players have ties to Cleveland or Ohio

[CR91]

Just now, PrincetonTiger said:

Okay then which first round players have ties to Cleveland or Ohio

 

Hooker lattimore Conley Ohio state

[stitches]

Just now, PrincetonTiger said:

Okay then which first round players have ties to Cleveland or Ohio

Trubisky - he's from Mentor, Ohio

Malik Hooker - Ohio state

Marshon Lattimore - Ohio State

Gareon Conley - Ohio State

Raekwon McMillan - Ohio State

Deshone Kizer - he's from Toledo, Ohio

 

?

[jvan1973]

49 minutes ago, CR91 said:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/04/25/unnamed-first-round-prospect-faces-sexual-assault-allegation-in-cleveland/

 

Jesus Christ! What the heck is wrong with this draft class?

Accused doesn't mean guilty.  

[stitches]

The more interesting thing is to follow up who is represented by this agent - Kevin Spellacy? I don't know where to look up this info. If anyone knows, you are welcome to share.

 

Edit: my bad, this is his lawyer, not agent.

[PrincetonTiger]

4 minutes ago, stitches said:

The more interesting thing is to follow up who is represented by this agent - Kevin Spellacy? I don't know where to look up this info. If anyone knows, you are welcome to share.

 

Edit: my bad, this is his lawyer, not agent.

You could probably do the same thing by looking at who Spellacy is the lawyer for

[PrincetonTiger]

The weird thing is that WOIO doesn't name the player but names and quotes his lawyer

[Pointz]

Some Twitter reports are saying the accused is Gareon Conley.

[Jact.stark]

44 minutes ago, CR91 said:

 

Teams will find out by themselves so I don't see how the media holding back the name really helps

How about a lawsuit? The whole thing seems shady, the article says that there are 3 witness who didn't see anything wrong and if he drops because an history without any kind of corroboration they can sue.

 

I think a lot of you guys overreacted for a history that has little to none truth behind.

 

This is a draft week's article, if something really happen then Rapoport would be reporting it, all the insiders won't sleep until the draft it's over they have their ears pretty open right now.

[Defjamz26]

I wouldn't be shocked if it was someone from Ohio State. A few of their prospects have had some off the field issue the last couple of years.

[CR91]

24 minutes ago, jvan1973 said:

Accused doesn't mean guilty.  

 

No, but it doesn't mean innocent either. Just have to wait and see

[Valpo2004]

54 minutes ago, stitches said:

Lets wait it out and see how it develops. The fact that the media is reluctant to publish the name gives some reason for caution about the allegation. I hope the police do their job.

 

Also the fact that the lawyer says he has 3 witnesses saying his player and the woman where never alone in the hotel makes me suspicious about it.  

 

Standard denials do not usually include specifics about witnesses or outright saying that the player was never alone with her.  The are usually very general and just say "this is a lie" blah blah blah.

 

When a lawyer is willing to say a number of witnesses and completely deny that the 2 where alone together to me it sounds like he's pretty sure of his case.  

[PrincetonTiger]

1 minute ago, Jact.stark said:

How about a lawsuit? The whole thing seems shady, the article says that there are 3 witness who didn't see anything wrong and if he drops because an history without any kind of corroboration they can sue.

 

I think a lot of you guys overreacted for a history that has little to none truth behind.

 

This is a draft week's article, if something really happen then Rapoport would be reporting it, all the insiders won't sleep until the draft it's over they have their ears pretty open right now.

I don't believe anyone here is overreacting just discussing how this could devastating to all sides

[OffensivelyPC]

How does a sexual assault aggressor go unnamed?  Forget about the football prospect part - I don't think Ive ever even heard of that before.

[PrincetonTiger]

1 minute ago, Valpo2004 said:

 

Also the fact that the lawyer says he has 3 witnesses saying his player and the woman where never alone in the hotel makes me suspicious about it.  

 

Standard denials do not usually include specifics about witnesses or outright saying that the player was never alone with her.  The are usually very general and just say "this is a lie" blah blah blah.

 

When a lawyer is willing to say a number of witnesses and completely deny that the 2 where alone together to me it sounds like he's pretty sure of his case.  

That could also be lawyer speak

 

At this point it is hard to tell

[Jact.stark]

23 minutes ago, jvan1973 said:

Accused doesn't mean guilty.  

He's been charged the article says there's no charges if after 2 weeks there's no charges then the whole thing just seems more shady, this is an click bait thing.

[PrincetonTiger]

Just now, OffensivelyPC said:

How does a sexual assault aggressor go unnamed?  Forget about the football prospect part - I don't think Ive ever even heard of that before.

The privileges of being famous

[jvan1973]

1 minute ago, PrincetonTiger said:

The privileges of being famous

Charges haven't been filed yet.  If they had it would be public knowledge.  

[bababooey]

It's Gareon Conley, Ohio State, per TMZ

 

Conley denies.

[PrincetonTiger]

B/R is reporting that it is Conley

[OffensivelyPC]

2 minutes ago, PrincetonTiger said:

The privileges of being famous

Even then, you don't see celebrities going unnamed in stories like this.  I haven't anyway.  I am just curious how this is even possible in the first place.  TMZ or one of those types of sites I would think could unearth that information.

[OffensivelyPC]

Just now, PrincetonTiger said:

B/R is reporting that it is Conley

Yep, there it is lol.  Man is that disappointing.  Not enough time before the draft to clear his name I don't think

[NewColtsFan]

 

Hypothetical.

 

The media releases the name.      The kid plummets in the draft.

 

Then the girl is found to either be lying,  or, she can't prove her case.      Or, he can prove his case to the satisfaction of law enforcement or a jury.

 

Then what?      The player has been damaged to the amount of millions of dollars.     Odds are she doesn't have that.      How he is to re-coup that loss?         

 

His name will be revealed perhaps by the end of the week, or maybe sometime next week.

 

This is not as cut and dry as it might appear.      Right now, he's only been accused,  he's not charged...