My Top 5 At Each Position

[tvturner]

Draft time, wanted to have some fun and see what you all thought of my top 5 prospects at each position

 

QB:

1. Patrick Mahomes II

2. Deshaun Watson

3. Mitch Trubisky

4. Davis Webb

5. DeShone Kizer

 

RB:

1. Christian McCaffrey

2. Joe Mixon

3. Dalvin Cook

4. Leonard Fournette

5. Alvin Kamara

 

WR: 

1. Corey Davis

2. John Ross

3. Zay Jones

4. Mike Williams

5. Cooper Kupp

 

TE: 

1. OJ Howard

2. Evan Engram

3. Jake Butt

4. David Njoku

5. Bucky Hodges

 

OL: 

1. Forrest Lamp

2. Ryan Ramcyzk

3. Garret Bolles

4. Cam Robinson

5. Dan Feeney

 

DE:

1. Solomon Thomas

2. Myles Garrett

3. Derek Barnett

4. Taco Charlton

5. Charles Harris

 

DT:

1. Johnathan Allen

2. Caleb Brantley

3. Malik McDowell

4. Larry Ogunjobi

5. Chris Wormley

 

OLB:

1. Takkarist McKinley

2. TJ Watt

3. Tim Williams

4. Zach Cunningham

5. Tyus Bowser

 

ILB:

1. Haason Reddick

2. Reuben Foster

3. Jarrad Davis

4. Raekwon McMillan

5. Kendell Beckwith

 

CB:

1. Marshon Lattimore

2. Fabian Moreau

3. Marlon Humphrey

4. Cordrea Tankersley

5. Kevin King

 

S: 

1. Malik Hooker

2. Jamal Adams

3. Budda Baker

4. Obi Melifonwu

5. Jabrill Peppers

[rock8591]

Bowser WAYYY overrated by this forum. I predict round 4-5 for hom. Much rather prefer Derek Rivers or Jordan Willis.

[2006Coltsbestever]

Who would you take if Lattimore and Reddick are there at 15? We need a CB and a Pass Rusher, or would you take Lamp to help protect Andrew?

[tvturner]

21 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Who would you take if Lattimore and Reddick are there at 15? We need a CB and a Pass Rusher, or would you take Lamp to help protect Andrew?

As much as I like Reddick, I'd take Lattimore. The dude's elite as it gets and would be perfect opposite Davis, bet he goes top 6 tho

[tvturner]

24 minutes ago, rock8591 said:

Bowser WAYYY overrated by this forum. I predict round 4-5 for hom. Much rather prefer Derek Rivers or Jordan Willis.

Willis and Rivers would be at DE, while Bowser would be at OLB.

Rivers and Willis are really good tho

[2006Coltsbestever]

1 minute ago, Boomstick1 said:

As much as I like Reddick, I'd take Lattimore. The dude's elite as it gets and would be perfect opposite Davis, bet he goes top 6 tho

Yeah he probably wont be there but if he is it would be interesting to see who Ballard would take.

[Defjamz26]

Having Garrett ranked under Thomas as well as certain other rankings makes me think that you purposely went against the status quo just for the sake of being controversial. Mahomes number 1? McCaffery number 1? Mike Williams at 4?

[NewColtsFan]

 

While I appreciate the time and effort anyone takes to do this....   still....   the results....

 

 

                                    

[rock8591]

Thomas IMO has the potential to be better than Garrett.

[ColtsBlueFL]

Nice vertical board.  I'll likely put mine put mine up tomorrow.  It's different from yours, but I like seeing both vertical and horizontal boards from folks, not just who they see (want) mocked to the Colts.

[NorthernBlue]

4 hours ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Who would you take if Lattimore and Reddick are there at 15? We need a CB and a Pass Rusher, or would you take Lamp to help protect Andrew?

I think it depends on what your opinions of the linebackers in later rounds are compared to that of the corners. If you think the corners are better, you should maybe take Reddick and vice versa.

As it stands right now, if I had the choice, gimme Reddick. I think Lattimore is gonna be good but I see a ton of potential and upside in Reddick. He can be a cornerstone building block at linebacker with the right development. 

[UKColt13]

7 hours ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Who would you take if Lattimore and Reddick are there at 15? We need a CB and a Pass Rusher, or would you take Lamp to help protect Andrew?

 

Reddick is my biggest draft crush as an ILB/OLB hybrid. Although Lattimore being available might just be too good to pass up.

[tvturner]

6 hours ago, Defjamz26 said:

Having Garrett ranked under Thomas as well as certain other rankings makes me think that you purposely went against the status quo just for the sake of being controversial. Mahomes number 1? McCaffery number 1? Mike Williams at 4?

It's having a personal opinion...

Why would I put somebody at #1 if I don't think they're the #1 there?

Sure it causes controversy among this forum, but I have better things to do than to fake my opinions

[tvturner]

5 hours ago, NewColtsFan said:

 

While I appreciate the time and effort anyone takes to do this....   still....   the results....

 

 

                                    

Not even gonna say anything about this

[bananabucket]

9 hours ago, Boomstick1 said:

 

ILB:

1. Haason Reddick

2. Reuben Foster

 

It's time to stop drinking.

[Defjamz26]

2 hours ago, Boomstick1 said:

It's having a personal opinion...

Why would I put somebody at #1 if I don't think they're the #1 there?

Sure it causes controversy among this forum, but I have better things to do than to fake my opinions

But there's is no credible analyst anywhere that doesn't have Garrett as the top DE. There's no way you can really believe Thomas is better. Unless you're using some weird subjective type of ranking.

[krunk]

9 hours ago, rock8591 said:

Thomas IMO has the potential to be better than Garrett.

nope

[Andrew Luck fan club]

There's a lot I disagree with, but I like seeing diversity in rankings. 

[ColtsBlueFL]

10 hours ago, ColtsBlueFL said:

Nice vertical board.  I'll likely put mine put mine up tomorrow.  It's different from yours, but I like seeing both vertical and horizontal boards from folks, not just who they see (want) mocked to the Colts.

 

I decided mine is likely tainted form everything I have read, and maybe not representation of what "I" see on film, but that I recognize what 'they' saw on film.  So, I'll put up the top 5 (or 10) from an NFL consultant and former scout.

 

QB -
1. (JR) DESHAUN WATSON—CLEMSON
2. (JR) MITCH TRUBISKY-NORTH CAROLINA
3. (rsSO) DESHONE KIZER–NOTRE DAME
4. (JR) PATRICK MAHOMES–TEXAS
5. DAVIS WEBB–CALIFORNIA

6. NATHAN PETERMAN–PITTSBURGH

RB -
1. (JR) LEONARD FOURNETTE—LSU (M)
2. (JR) DALVIN COOK—FLORIDA STATE (M/C)
3. (JR) CHRISTIAN MCCAFFERY–STANFORD (B)
4. (JR) ALVIN KAMARA–TENNESSEE
5. (rsSO) JOE MIXON–OKLAHOMA (C)

6. (JR) D’ONTA FOREMAN–TEXAS

FB - (6th rnd value and down)
1. FREDDIE STEVENSON–FLORIDA STATE
2. SAM ROGERS–VIRGINIA TECH
3. SHANE SMITH–SAN JOSE STATE
4. NATE IESE–UCLA
5. ANTHONY FIRKSER–HARVARD
6. TYLER MCCLOSKEY–HOUSTON
7. JOE BACCI–CENTRAL MICHIGAN
8. PRESCOTT LINE–MICHIGAN STATE
9. ALGERNON BROWN–BYU
10. MARQUEZ WILLIAMS–MIAMI-FL

WR -
1. COREY DAVIS–WESTERN MICHIGAN (M)
2. (JR) JOHN ROSS–WASHINGTON  (M)
3. (JR) MIKE WILLIAMS–CLEMSON (S)
4. (JR) JUJU SMITH-SCHUSTER—USC
5. (JR) CURTIS SAMUEL–OHIO STATE

6. ZAY JONES–EAST CAROLINA

TE -
1. OJ HOWARD–ALABAMA–Y
2. (rsSO) DAVID NJOKU–MIAMI-FL–Y
3. EVAN ENGRAM–OLE MISS–H
4. JAKE BUTT–MICHIGAN–Y (M)
5. GERALD EVERETT–SOUTH ALABAMA–H

6. (JR) BUCKY HODGES–VIRGINIA TECH–Y

OT -
1. (JR) CAM ROBINSON–ALABAMA–RT/G
2. (JR) RYAN RAMCZYK–WISCONSIN–LT/RT (M)
3. (JR) GARRETT BOLLES–UTAH–LT/RT
4. DION DAWKINS–TEMPLE–RT/G
5. ANTONIO GARCIA–TROY–LT/RT

6. (JR) RODERICK JOHNSON–FLORIDA STATE–RT/LT

OG -
1. FOREST LAMP–WESTERN KENTUCKY–RT
2. DAN FEENEY–INDIANA
3. ETHAN POCIC–LSU–OC
4. DORIAN JOHNSON—PITT
5. NICO SIRAGUSA–SAN DIEGO STATE

6. ISAAC ASIATA–UTAH

C -
1. PAT ELFLEIN–OHIO STATE
2. TYLER ORLOSKY–WEST VIRGINIA
3. KYLE FULLER–BAYLOR
4. JON TOTH–KENTUCKY

DE -
1. (JR) MYLES GARRETT–TEXAS A&M
2. (rsS0) SOLOMON THOMAS–STANFORD
3. (JR) DEREK BARNETT–TENNESSEE
4. TACO CHARLETON–MICHIGAN
5. (JR) CHARLES HARRIS–MISSOURI

6. TIM WILLIAMS–ALABAMA–OLB (C)
7. TAKKARIST MCKINLEY–UCLA—OLB
8. CARL LAWSON—AUBURN
9. DEMARCUS WALKER–FLORIDA STATE
10. JORDAN WILLIS–KANSAS STATE
11. TARELL BASHAM–OHIO UNIV.

LB -
1. RUEBEN FOSTER–ALABAMA-IB
2. HAASON REDDICK–TEMPLE–WB/SB
3. ZACH CUNNINGHAM–VANDERBILT–WB/SB
4. JARRAD DAVIS–FLORIDA–IB
5. TJ WATT–WISCONSIN–SB

6. (JR) RAEKWON MCMILLAN–OHIO STATE–IB
7. RYAN ANDERSON–ALABAMA–SB/IB
8. ALEX ANZALONE–FLORIDA–SB/IB
9. TYUS BOWSER–HOUSTON–SB/IB
10. DUKE RILEY–LSU–WB/IB

 

No DB data at this time...

[tvturner]

9 hours ago, Defjamz26 said:

But there's is no credible analyst anywhere that doesn't have Garrett as the top DE. There's no way you can really believe Thomas is better. Unless you're using some weird subjective type of ranking.

So I'm supposed to follow what every sports analyst says?

[Defjamz26]

1 hour ago, Boomstick1 said:

So I'm supposed to follow what every sports analyst says?

Not to the t, but there are some things that are almost undeniable. Andrew Luck being the best QB available in the 2012 draft is one example. Garrett being the best edge rusher in this draft is another such case. We haven't seen ANY intelligent football people not have him #2. Why wouldn't you?

 

The only explanation would be if you had weird gut feeling, which would be okay.

[NewColtsFan]

21 hours ago, Boomstick1 said:

Not even gonna say anything about this

 

Well...     I don't like being the guy to dump a bucket of cold water on anyone's hard work....

 

But, as another poster stated,  there are so many head scratchers that after a while it all begins to look like you're being different for the sake of being controversial.       Or, some other reason...

 

For starters...   and remember,  I'm a Stanford fan for nearly 50 years....

 

But...

 

-- CMac as the top RB in the class?     No.    Not even a little bit.

-- Solomon Thomas as the #1 DE ahead of Garrett, the consensus top player in the entire draft?   No.   Not even a little bit.

-- Pat Mahomes as the #1 QB?      Not for me.    He's not even a 1st rounder for me.

-- Zay Jones ahead of Mike Williams?

-- At TE,  you have Butts with his knee surgery as 3rd,  and Njoku the 2nd highest rated TE and projected 1st rounder as the 4th TE.

-- Fabian Moreau, who just had surgery, as the 2nd ranked CB?    He's a 2nd round pick for most people.

 

So,   there are just way, way too many head scratching decisions...    and in the grand scheme of things,  you're just going to tell me this is all your opinion,  and there's no debating that.     That's why I didn't say anything initially....       But this is my explanation....

 

[rock8591]

8 hours ago, Boomstick1 said:

So I'm supposed to follow what every sports analyst says?

 

IMO it's arguable that Justin Smith (Soloman Thomas) is better than Julius Peppers (Myles Garrett).

[NFLfan]

22 hours ago, ColtsBlueFL said:

C -
1. PAT ELFLEIN–OHIO STATE
2. TYLER ORLOSKY–WEST VIRGINIA
3. KYLE FULLER–BAYLOR
4. JON TOTH–KENTUCKY

 

I thought Pocic played mostly center (and at times guard). You have him listed with the other offensive linemen. Where would you rank him if he is being drafted as a center?

 

Thanks for the list of rankings.

[ColtsBlueFL]

4 hours ago, NFLfan said:

 

I thought Pocic played mostly center (and at times guard). You have him listed with the other offensive linemen. Where would you rank him if he is being drafted as a center?

 

Thanks for the list of rankings.

 

This isn't my rankings, this is from a true NFL scout, and NFL team consultant and College consultant.  He has him slated to be more of a guard in the NFL, but as position flexibility.  He has him ranked #75 on the horizontal board (which is round 3 on draft day, but with a low round 2 grade still.  The only C above him is Pat Elflein.  He does have some other guards just above him though.

 

I'll reveal my source here, for you first (and those that happen by), then update my QB post as I trimmed a huge dossier to make that post, and it was from him as well.  Want to know?  You gotta click and read then...

 

https://landryfootball.com/about-landry-football-operations/

 

I'm a full War Room member... 

 

Also for you if you read this far-

 

His estimation at this point is there are 25 Round One grade players, and 50 Round Two grade players.

 

My other sources of scouting reports are-

 

http://realfootballnetwork.com/rfn-staff/#

 

Bill Roos, Chris Mattura, Dan Schwab, and Greg Robinson in addition to Jim Miller and Pat Kirwan.

And, Dr. David Chao is their medical source I've come to trust {mostly} over time as having very good injury 'assessment' {not diagnosis, need to be there for physical exam for that!} skills via video, and realistic recovery and rehab information regarding such injuries.

 

The only other Info I really take somewhat serious is from Greg Cosell of NFLN, and I read some knowledgeable and studious members here for their 'take' from their own All 22 tape sessions.  I used to, but do little on my own these days.  I enjoy the work of these folk. 

 

EDIT:  OMG!!  My gosh, and I cannot forget the Godfather, Gil Brandt!  I still respect every word from this guy too.