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Chris Ballard message to Colts fans

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Not the consistent dominating type you'd like to see in a team....Sure it was a one year wonder he won the GM of the year award, based on what?.....Needed consistency by evaluating talents, drafting the right pieces, identifying key free agents and signing undrafted free agents.  These things were not followed by Grigson, took it for granted that he could duplicate the success.  Well, unfortunately the feud started with the Coach, disagreements, etc...Something that could have been resolved with the two people GM and Coach. communicating as their first priority...Non existent, result non-playoff appearances...

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1 hour ago, Superman said:

 

Cherilus was the highest paid RT in the history of the league, actually. But so what? Nice soundbite, but completely irrelevant. He got $6.9m/year, Andre Smith got $6m/year, Vollmer got $6.75m/year. There was nothing ridiculous or outrageous about his contract.

 

Landry and RJF pretty much going rate for second tier starters at their positions. Toler got less than $5m/year as a starting CB. Nothing outrageous about any of those contracts. The problem with all of them is that they failed to live up to their contracts -- which could easily happen with everyone the Colts have signed this year.

 

Andre Johnson was in Year 4. Different strategy, not pertinent to this conversaton. And it was reported that he had offers for $2-3m/year more than what the Colts gave him.

 

Grigson signed Walden for $4m/year. Ballard signed Simon to play the same position for $4.5m/year. Not cheaper. Schwenke got $3m, Donald Thomas got $3.5m. Sheard got more than any free agent Grigson ever signed. 

 

For the most part, Ballard is signing second and mostly third tier guys who aren't intended to do anything more than fill gaps in the short term. Of course he's not giving them huge contracts. Hunt is a cast off, RJF was a courted FA (and RJF was better in 2012 than Hunt was in 2016). 

 

Ballard's free agency strategy is basically the same as Grigson's was in the first couple years. If his signings work out better, then his execution will have been superior.

 

I will say this -- Ballard is setting himself up for potential comp picks in two years. If some of his one year players play well and get nice deals from other teams in 2018, then the Colts potentially get comped in 2019. This is why I would have been okay with a one year rental of Poe, at the right price. I don't know if that's part of the plan, but it wouldn't surprise me. If it works out that way, I'll give Ballard major credit. 

I hear you but I think he jumped the gun on a lot of those contracts. Going rate is usually for players at a position who are good. I don't think you pay going rate for a RJF. People hated the signing then and it still looks bad now. I just don't think you pay going rate for bottom tier players. At least good GMs don't. I would have bashed any GM had they signed Toler to a 3 year $15 million contract. We all bashed the Osweiler signing even though that was technically the "going" rate for QBs. And he was at the time still a guy with upside. But the lesson from that is that regardless of going rates and needs, sometimes you have to walk away and say "It's not worth it". But had he had a philosophy more like the Packers (draft and develop/raise your own) he never would have had to make a lot of those decisions.

 

Their strategies are way different. We'll see more as time goes buy. This year was weird because he had a bunch of holes to fill and couldn't just leave it. That's on The previous GM though

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16 hours ago, crazycolt1 said:

Rock bottom? Really? I can list quite a few other teams that finished worse than 8-8

 

Im my post, I was directly referring to the defense which statistically was one of the worst in the team's history this past year. Your two previous attempts to troll me have failed.

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47 minutes ago, Restored said:

 

Im my post, I was directly referring to the defense which statistically was one of the worst in the team's history this past year. Your two previous attempts to troll me have failed.

No where did you say you were referring to just the defense.

So responding to you is being a troll? I am sorry I pointed out that what you said wasn't exactly truthful in the context as you stated it. But if you feel you are being trolled because I am suppose to know what your meaning is without you being specific in what you are saying, I guess I am guilty.

 

 

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Many comparisons between Ballard and Grigson.

 

The difference will be, and yet to be seen, is if the players we did bring in are better fits for our scheme who actually perform for the Colts at least the mid-level they are capable of. In other words, strategy and price may be similar, but the choices in players is a variable that cannot be discounted. We don't know yet if Ballard did a better job of fitting free-agents into this system.

 

And they are certainly younger. At least that.

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2 hours ago, lester said:

The difference will be, and yet to be seen, is if the players we did bring in are better fits for our scheme who actually perform for the Colts at least the mid-level they are capable of.

 

Absolutely.

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7 hours ago, crazycolt1 said:

No where did you say you were referring to just the defense.

So responding to you is being a troll? I am sorry I pointed out that what you said wasn't exactly truthful in the context as you stated it. But if you feel you are being trolled because I am suppose to know what your meaning is without you being specific in what you are saying, I guess I am guilty.

 

 

 

The poster I quoted was referring to the defense and subsequently, so was I. No where in my specific post did I refer to the team's record either.

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