Jonotthan Harrison is a free agent.

[BlueShoe]

The way most people talk about Harrison, I think most of us thought he was still on the roster, but he is not.

 

http://www.colts.com/team/roster.html

 

It appears he was an RFA, and I do not remember us tendering him.

 

http://www.colts.com/news/article-1/Who-Are-The-Colts-2017-Free-Agents/b139c03e-aad4-40d1-bb01-44694a64d683

 

Schwenke deal makes much more sense now.

 

First year players have at least 4 years on the rookie pay scale (1st round picks - option of 5th year). Might be confusing because he sat out his first year and started with us in his second year.

 

Harrison is a free agent. 

[csmopar]

Interesting 

[CR91]

I think hes a RFA

[Creekside]

Roto world still has him on the Colt's roster listed as a restricted free agent.

[BlueShoe]

1 minute ago, CR91 said:

I think hes a RFA

 

Did we tender him? Did he sign?

 

I don't remember it, but it could have easily gone under my radar. 

[CR91]

2 minutes ago, BlueShoe said:

 

Did we tender him? Did he sign?

 

I don't remember it, but it could have easily gone under my radar. 

 

no we didnt. 

[BlueShoe]

1 minute ago, CR91 said:

 

no we didnt. 

 

Then he is a free agent, and that clears things up about the Brian Schwenke signing. 

[pgt_rob]

Is schwenke any better than Harrison?

[CR91]

12 minutes ago, pgt_rob said:

Is schwenke any better than Harrison?

 

He's serviceable. Plug in type. Not a starter

[Bluefire4]

I thought people knew this already.

[ztboiler]

Not sure where there is any confusion....as an RFA Harrison became a free agent with the beginning of the league year once he wasn't tendered.

 

Doesn't mean he won't be back, but this is a notable policy change from Ballard.  Grigson usually tendered RFAs who had played significant snaps.

[NewColtsFan]

1 hour ago, pgt_rob said:

Is schwenke any better than Harrison?

 

When he plays --- yes.    Much better.

 

But he's had injury problems in each of his 4 seasons.     Perhaps with a plan that would use him less as a back-up he would stand a better chance at not suffering injuries?

 

Just thinking out loud.....

 

[Superman]

8 hours ago, BlueShoe said:

First year players have at least 4 years on the rookie pay scale (1st round picks - option of 5th year). Might be confusing because he sat out his first year and started with us in his second year.

 

Harrison is a free agent. 

 

Just to bring some clarity, undrafted free agents sign three year contracts, not four year contracts. However, any player without four years service is considered a restricted free agent, so after three years, the team can tender a low salary contract for one year (basically like the franchise tag, taking the player off of the free agent market).

 

Harrison was signed as a UDFA in 2014, and just finished his third year with the team. The Colts declined to tender him -- thank the stars -- so he's an unrestricted free agent.

 

There are other details to the restricted free agent rules that aren't really relevant to this situation, but long story short, the Colts decided to let Harrison go to free agency. Same thing for Zach Kerr, and Josh McNary.

[lollygagger8]

You mean, no team scooped Harrison up immediately? 

 

[1959Colts]

During the last few games of past season, a lot of attention was given that the Colts O-line was finally beginning to show signs of improvement.

I just want to point out, Harrison was starting at guard during this period.

[Valpo2004]

12 hours ago, ztboiler said:

Not sure where there is any confusion....as an RFA Harrison became a free agent with the beginning of the league year once he wasn't tendered.

 

Doesn't mean he won't be back, but this is a notable policy change from Ballard.  Grigson usually tendered RFAs who had played significant snaps.

 

Yeah but usually those guys where guys he brought in.  

 

I think what we're seeing here is Ballard is bringing in his own backup interior swingman.  

[dudley dawson]

Harrison was the embodiment of Grigson's ineptness.  A nobody he found "under a rock", who sucked badly, who he insisted got to play.

[ztboiler]

2 hours ago, Valpo2004 said:

 

Yeah but usually those guys where guys he brought in.  

 

I think what we're seeing here is Ballard is bringing in his own backup interior swingman.  

No disputing that....but it would cost Ballard nothing to bring Harrison to camp on an RFA tender....can cut him at no cost.  Same thing with Kerr.  Ballard seems inclined to see if the market believes you are worth an RFA level tender before giving one - if you are a marginal guy....we'll see what he does with his own guys moving forward....and you make a good point. 

[Superman]

13 minutes ago, ztboiler said:

No disputing that....but it would cost Ballard nothing to bring Harrison to camp on an RFA tender....can cut him at no cost.  Same thing with Kerr.  Ballard seems inclined to see if the market believes you are worth an RFA level tender before giving one - if you are a marginal guy....we'll see what he does with his own guys moving forward....and you make a good point. 

 

Unless he gets hurt. 

 

It's a small money tender, relatively, but it's also more than twice his minimum salary. I wouldn't have tendered him even if I wanted him. 

[ztboiler]

1 hour ago, Superman said:

 

Unless he gets hurt. 

 

It's a small money tender, relatively, but it's also more than twice his minimum salary. I wouldn't have tendered him even if I wanted him. 

Also a good point.....but that is true of all your guys under contract, some of which would carry similar marginal cost/value.

 

I don't have a strong opinion as to the best approach....but history says Kerr and Harrison would have been tendered by Grigs. Kerr probably ends up in a better situation as he got near a RFA level contract from Denver with a million guaranteed...he'll probably make their roster.

[Superman]

2 hours ago, ztboiler said:

Also a good point.....but that is true of all your guys under contract, some of which would carry similar marginal cost/value.

 

I don't have a strong opinion as to the best approach....but history says Kerr and Harrison would have been tendered by Grigs. Kerr probably ends up in a better situation as he got near a RFA level contract from Denver with a million guaranteed...he'll probably make their roster.

 

Kerr's first year money is basically equal to what the original round tender would have been. I wonder if that's a coincidence...

 

I do think he and Harrison would have been tendered by Grigson. I'm glad Harrison wasn't.