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Updated OP. Still pending details on Al Woods. 

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On 3/17/2017 at 11:59 AM, Superman said:

Updated OP. Still pending details on Al Woods. 

 

If Holder is accurate , maybe about 16-17 mill left figuring the draft and keeping 3-4 mill on hand ? I'm thinking unless we signed Hankins who is said to be asking way too much money , we'll have a pretty good carry over. Same looks to be true for at least 8-9 other teams. 

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3 hours ago, dw49 said:

 

If Holder is accurate , maybe about 16-17 mill left figuring the draft and keeping 3-4 mill on hand ? I'm thinking unless we signed Hankins who is said to be asking way too much money , we'll have a pretty good carry over. Same looks to be true for at least 8-9 other teams. 

 

We need a corner.

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1 hour ago, Superman said:

 

We need a corner.

 

That's an understatement . We have V Davis who is on the injury list every week. Hip .. then an ankle .. then a foot and then a groin. Nice player but it's been like this for 2 years and when 7-8 year vets start this "trend" , often it just doesn't end. After him we have Melvin who I would call a #4 CB. Butler can't play outside and they plan on playing him at safety.  I guess when you consider Robinson was either hurt or terrible other than a couple weeks , it's much like last year ? 

 

Draft is rich in DB's but we need a pass rusher , NT a future RB and another TE wouldn't hurt. I guess just too many holes too fill in 1 year. It's said to be a deep draft and one trade back would give us 8 picks.

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1 hour ago, Superman said:

 

We need a corner.

We could trade for Richard Sherman. I am not really serious but we could??

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6 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

We could trade for Richard Sherman. I am not really serious but we could??

 

 

Trade and draft looks to be about it ? Shields has serious concussion issues and Flowers is the wrong side of 30. I don't see a lot left in free agency but maybe I'm missing a player or 2 ?

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25 minutes ago, dw49 said:

 

 

Trade and draft looks to be about it ? Shields has serious concussion issues and Flowers is the wrong side of 30. I don't see a lot left in free agency but maybe I'm missing a player or 2 ?

I would love to pair Sherman up with Vontae but the Seahawks would probably want a bunch of high picks for him. He is only 29.

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1 hour ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

I would love to pair Sherman up with Vontae but the Seahawks would probably want a bunch of high picks for him. He is only 29.

 

 

Might make a lot of sense if our roster were a bit better . He's under contract for 2 years at 11 mill per season , so not bad there. But still pretty iffy considering we are probably a couple years from contending. 

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Already updated by @Superman on the front page for Butler but a little more info:

 

Per Aaron Wilson, Darius Butler 3M, 1.5M bonus, 2.5M guaranteed, salary 1M guaranteed, 31,250 per game active, 1.5M Pro Bowl-PT, interception incentive

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8 minutes ago, bababooey said:

Already updated by @Superman on the front page for Butler but a little more info:

 

Per Aaron Wilson, Darius Butler 3M, 1.5M bonus, 2.5M guaranteed, salary 1M guaranteed, 31,250 per game active, 1.5M Pro Bowl-PT, interception incentive

 

Because of the incentives, I'm noting his cap hit as $4.5m. I doubt he hits them all, but might as well account for them now.

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2 minutes ago, Superman said:

 

Because of the incentives, I'm noting his cap hit as $4.5m. I doubt he hits them all, but might as well account for them now.

Definitely, especially since it is a one year deal, there is no reason not to include non-guaranteed money.

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On 3/19/2017 at 3:49 PM, Superman said:

 

 

On 3/19/2017 at 0:35 PM, dw49 said:

 

If Holder is accurate , maybe about 16-17 mill left figuring the draft and keeping 3-4 mill on hand ? I'm thinking unless we signed Hankins who is said to be asking way too much money , we'll have a pretty good carry over. Same looks to be true for at least 8-9 other teams. 

 

On 3/19/2017 at 3:49 PM, Superman said:

 

We need a corner.

 

Didn't mean to quote Superman twice but just wanted to inform you guys in case you didn't know that WFAN in NY reported the Giants currently have the highest contract offer out to resign Hankins but he still wants more. I would not count him coming here but the Giants probably did not see themselves resigning JPP and Hankins this offseason either so never say never.

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Down to 13.604 million left  to sign FA's not counting the Brandon Williams contract

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Kamar Aiken on a one year deal. Not sure of the $ yet.

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On 3/20/2017 at 5:59 PM, Coltfreak said:

Down to 13.604 million left  to sign FA's not counting the Brandon Williams contract

 

 

I don't think there's much more (of significance) that Ballard's interested in doing. If he wanted he could create more room by looking at Jones and even Ayers. Plus he could turn some of those roster bonuses into signing bonuses. I know most are aware of this , I'm just making a point that if he wanted to sign players like Brown or Hankins , cap room really is not a deal breaker.

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2 minutes ago, dw49 said:

 

 

I don't think there's much more (of significance) that Ballard's interested in doing. If he wanted he could create more room by looking at Jones and even Ayers. Plus he could turn some of those roster bonuses into signing bonuses. I know most are aware of this , I'm just making a point that if he wanted to sign players like Brown or Hankins , cap room really is not a deal breaker.

we gained a couple million from Pat retiring too

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Not official, but it's something on Aiken:

 

 

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1 hour ago, stitches said:

 

 

Not bad at all. I thought it would be considerably more. 

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Added Fortunato, no details, I'm assuming rookie minimum, and he'll have no meaningful impact on cap status. Weird signing, IMO. 

 

Updated with details on Aiken, still waiting on Woods. Once Woods' cap hit is known, I'm going to do a full calculation.

 

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13 minutes ago, Superman said:

Added Fortunato, no details, I'm assuming rookie minimum, and he'll have no meaningful impact on cap status. Weird signing, IMO. 

 

Updated with details on Aiken, still waiting on Woods. Once Woods' cap hit is known, I'm going to do a full calculation.

 

 

 

Figure 2.5 and get off your butt....

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7 minutes ago, dw49 said:

 

 

Figure 2.5 and get off your butt....

 

What if it's 3? Then I have to go back and do it all over again, adjusting for that .5. I have to maximize my resources... :)

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14 minutes ago, Superman said:

 

What if it's 3? Then I have to go back and do it all over again, adjusting for that .5. I have to maximize my resources... :)

 

 

Can't we just subtract 500K and be done ?  BTW you had a good call on the type FA's Ballard would sign.  Aiken deal was about right , we figured like 6.5 for 2 years which probably would have been pretty close to the # if it were a 2 year deal.

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Fortunato is a very weird signing.

 

Art Jones has been released. 5.15 mil Cap savings per Mike Chappell.

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Just updated. To get @dw49 to stop calling me a lazy bum, I estimated Woods at $2.5m and Fortunato at $500k. 

 

Until we get details stating otherwise, the Colts have approximately $25.6m remaining cap space.This does not include in season buffer or practice squad. It does include draft picks.

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24 minutes ago, Superman said:

Just updated. To get @dw49 to stop calling me a lazy bum, I estimated Woods at $2.5m and Fortunato at $500k. 

 

Until we get details stating otherwise, the Colts have approximately $25.6m remaining cap space.This does not include in season buffer or practice squad. It does include draft picks.

 

 

You appear to be right on spotrac numbers ... not the higher over the cap . No actually you are a little higher than Spotrac as they appear to have 25.4 without Woods ? But there are other factors that adjust that final # here and there I think. Good job and thank you.

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Unofficial Roster/Depth Chart as of 03/25/2017:

 

Defensive Backs
Vontae Davis CB 5'11" 207 Illinois
Darius Butler S 5'10" 188 Connecticut
T.J. Green S 6'3" 205 Clemson
Duke Williams S 5'11" 201 Nevada
Clayton Geathers S 6'2" 220 Central Florida
Rashaan Melvin CB 6'2" 193 Northern Illinois
Darryl Morris CB 5'10" 188 Texas State
Tevin Mitchel CB 6'0" 183 Arkansas
Matthias Farley S 5'11" 210 Notre Dame
Stefan McClure S 5'11" 205 California
Christopher Milton CB 5'11" 190 Georgia Tech
Frankie Williams CB 5'9" 190 Purdue
Lee Hightower S 6'2" 200 Houston
Charles James II CB 5'9" 185 Charleston Southern
Larry Scott CB 5'11" 194 Oregon State
Andrew Williamson S 6'1" 212 Vanderbilt
         
Defensive Line
Kendall Langford DE 6'6" 305 Hampton
Henry Anderson DT 6'6" 300 Stanford
Hassan Ridgeway DT 6'3" 317 Texas
Al Woods NT 6'4" 307 LSU
David Parry DT 6'2" 310 Stanford
Margus Hunt DE 6'8" 295 SMU
Kristjan Sokoli DE 6'5" 300 Buffalo
T.Y. McGill DT 6'0" 310 North Carolina State
         
Linebackers
Jabaal Sheard OLB 6'3" 265 Pittsburgh
Barkevious Mingo OLB 6'4" 240 LSU
Antonio Morrison ILB 6'1" 235 Florida
John Simon OLB 6'1" 260 Ohio State
Akeem Ayers OLB 6'3" 255 UCLA
Sean Spence ILB 5'11" 231 Miami (Fla.)
Edwin Jackson ILB 6'0" 230 Georgia Southern
Lavar Edwards OLB 6'4" 275 LSU
Deiontrez Mount OLB 6'5" 249 Louisville
Curt Maggitt OLB 6'3" 250 Tennessee
Deon King ILB 6'1" 230 Norfolk State
Luke Rhodes ILB 6'2" 242 William & Mary
Alex Bazzie LB 6'1" 229 Marshall
         
Offensive Line
Ryan Kelly C 6'4" 313 Alabama
Anthony Castonzo T 6'7" 311 Boston College
Jack Mewhort T/G 6'6" 312 Ohio State
Joe Haeg T 6'6" 304 North Dakota State
Le'Raven Clark T 6'5" 319 Texas Tech
Denzelle Good T/G 6'5" 355 Mars Hill
Brian Schwenke C/G 6'3" 315 California
Austin Blythe C 6'3" 298 Iowa
Fahn Cooper T 6'5" 306 Mississippi
Jeremy Vujnovich T 6'5" 300 Louisiana College
Adam Redmond G 6'6" 290 Harvard
Isiah Cage T 6'5" 312 Wis.-Eau Claire
         
Quarterbacks
Andrew Luck QB 6'4" 240 Stanford
Stephen Morris QB 6'2" 218 Miami FL
Scott Tolzien QB 6'2" 213 Wisconsin
         
Running Backs
Frank Gore RB 5'9" 217 Miami (FL)
Robert Turbin RB 5'10" 225 Utah State
Josh Ferguson RB 5'10" 200 Illinois
         
Tight Ends
Jack Doyle TE 6'6" 267 Western Kentucky
Erik Swoope TE 6'5" 257 Miami (FL)
Brandon Williams TE 6'3" 247 Oregon
         
Wide Recievers
T.Y. Hilton WR 5'9" 180 Florida International
Donte Moncrief WR 6'2" 222 Mississippi
Kamar Aiken WR 6'2" 215 Central Florida
Phillip Dorsett WR 5'10" 185 Miami
Chester Rogers WR 6'1" 180 Grambling State
Devin Street WR 6'3" 200 Pittsburgh
Quan Bray WR 5'10" 186 Auburn
Marcus Leak WR 6'0" 210 Maryland
Tevaun Smith WR 6'2" 205 Iowa
         
Special Teams
Adam Vinatieri K 6'0" 206 South Dakota State
Jeff Locke P 6'0" 195 UCLA
Matt Overton LS 6'1" 243 Western Washington
Joe Fortunato LS 6'5" 240 Delaware
Devon Bell K 6'2" 193 Mississippi State
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On 3/24/2017 at 1:58 PM, Superman said:

Just updated. To get @dw49 to stop calling me a lazy bum, I estimated Woods at $2.5m and Fortunato at $500k. 

 

Until we get details stating otherwise, the Colts have approximately $25.6m remaining cap space.This does not include in season buffer or practice squad. It does include draft picks.

 

 

Did you realize that it looks to be every dime of guaranteed money for all new contracts including Doyle and Sheard only has guaranteed money in year one ? None of the 2017 signings had cap implications past 2017.

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Posted (edited)

14 hours ago, dw49 said:

Did you realize that it looks to be every dime of guaranteed money for all new contracts including Doyle and Sheard only has guaranteed money in year one ? None of the 2017 signings had cap implications past 2017.

 

Yup. No guarantees beyond Year 1, no cap penalties if anyone is cut. 

 

Only Aiken and Williams received signing bonuses, but they both have one year deals, so there's no issue there. 

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1 minute ago, Superman said:

 

Yup. No guarantees beyond Year 1, no cap penalties if anyone is cut. 

 

Sheard I think is the key to this FA class. Did you read the piece in Stampede Blue ? If true , he played lights out in 2015 but not so great in 2016. Hopefully last year was just "messed" up ? But if we get the Sheard that's not so good , we just say adios ?

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21 minutes ago, dw49 said:

 

Sheard I think is the key to this FA class. Did you read the piece in Stampede Blue ? If true , he played lights out in 2015 but not so great in 2016. Hopefully last year was just "messed" up ? But if we get the Sheard that's not so good , we just say adios ?

I think John Simon is going to be the biggest FA in this class but both together I'm pretty happy about.

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Just now, bababooey said:

I think John Simon is going to be the biggest FA class but both together I'm pretty happy about.

 

Oh.. I agree with you. I think he's ( Simon) the best singing by far. I was just saying the biggest "gamble" or "question mark"we made was the Sheard signing. He could be worth the 8 mill or he could be a bad signing. That's why I considered him the "key" to a good offseason.

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14 minutes ago, Superman said:

 

Yup. No guarantees beyond Year 1, no cap penalties if anyone is cut. 

 

Only Aiken and Williams received signing bonuses, but they both have one year deals, so there's no issue there. 

 

Yeah .. not even a small guaranteed roster bonus in any of those deals. 

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15 minutes ago, dw49 said:

 

Sheard I think is the key to this FA class. Did you read the piece in Stampede Blue ? If true , he played lights out in 2015 but not so great in 2016. Hopefully last year was just "messed" up ? But if we get the Sheard that's not so good , we just say adios ?

 

Definitely, if he's not even close to 2015, he can't stay. He has a guarantee trigger on the 5th day of the 2018 league year. 

 

If he's back to his 2015 form -- which is the level at which he played at times in Cleveland -- then he'll be our primary Rush backer. He's not good enough to be the primary Rush backer for a good defense, so we're still deficient, but he can help, for sure. I really just see him as a younger Walden, maybe better, since Walden only had good sack production in one season. 

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16 minutes ago, Superman said:

 

Definitely, if he's not even close to 2015, he can't stay. He has a guarantee trigger on the 5th day of the 2018 league year. 

 

If he's back to his 2015 form -- which is the level at which he played at times in Cleveland -- then he'll be our primary Rush backer. He's not good enough to be the primary Rush backer for a good defense, so we're still deficient, but he can help, for sure. I really just see him as a younger Walden, maybe better, since Walden only had good sack production in one season. 

 

Yes , he's not the answer to our pass rush woes but if he plays well , he'll help. As to the Walden comparison , I think if he plays up to what he did in previous "good years" , he sets the edge better than Walden ?

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1 minute ago, dw49 said:

 

Yes , he's not the answer to our pass rush woes but if he plays well , he'll help. As to the Walden comparison , I think if he plays up to what he did in previous "good years" , he sets the edge better than Walden ?

 

I think he's probably more disciplined on the edge than Walden, but I don't think they used him primarily on the weak or strong side. We almost always put Walden on the strong side, especially on early downs. But if Sheard is more consistent setting the edge against varied alignments, then if we're going to play him on the weak side mostly (assuming Simon is the Sam, and he definitely is more disciplined and consistent setting the edge than Walden), it should make his job a little easier, in theory.

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Here is how our cap has it now......

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$167.000m = NFL 2017 Salary Cap
$006.614m = Colts 2016 Cap Roll-Over
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$173.614m = Colts 2017 Adjusted Salary Cap


$135.230m = Top 51 Current Salaries (Estimating $2.5m for Al Woods)
$008.576m = Dead Money
$006.322m = 2017 Draft Pool
$001.080m = Spots #52 and #53 on active roster
$001.200m = Practice Squad
$003.000m = In-Season "Churn" Space
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$155.408m = Current Obligations

$018.206m = Free Cap Space to Sign NEW Free Agents  now......

 

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