Rapoport: Colts and Eagles making strong push for Alshon Jeffery (Merged)

[bababooey]

The next Art Jones

[aaron11]

Just now, twfish said:

6'2 220 pounds and runs a 4.40 40 yard dash. He's much more than just a role player but he has the same thing happening to him that Dorsett and that's poor play calling and not utilizing the WR to there max. Most of the time the 2 are used to pull double coverage off of T.Y.

this next season will be telling with DM.  right now hes mostly only producing in the red zone and was tied for 41st in TDs last year

 

we can blame coaching, or maybe this is who he is.  it should be clear in the next year or two

[chad72]

Werner, Richardson, Dorsett - that would be 3 great hits from Grigson for round 1.  

 

When he drafted Ryan Kelly, he said he went against his gut and boy am I glad he did. 

[1959Colts]

9 minutes ago, Chucklez said:

I must admit, I don't know much about Alshon other than his statistical numbers... Whats his character generally like?

 

I dont know about his character, but two years ago he was looking like one of the top wrs in the entire league.

Had a big drop off last season though.

He certainly has the talent.

[Fisticuffs111]

8 minutes ago, Dilger85 said:

To be fair though, it takes two to complete a deal.  What if those guys you mention just don't want to be Colts or like other situations better?  You can't force free agents to sign with you.  I look at the Colts interest in him as the draft is deep in defense specifically edges and defensive backs.  The draft does not have a lot of WR talent so if they are wanting to improve the WR unit then FA might be the best bet.

Sure, we don't know, but I seriously doubt those two just don't wanna sign with us. Especially since Bouye is trying to stay in the division apparetly. Plus we're not some scrub team with a terrible FO.

The fact that we're rumored to be out of the running entirely for those guys, to me, suggests that it just got too rich for Ballard's blood.

[Dilger85]

Just now, Fisticuffs111 said:

I mean, we don't know, but I seriously doubt those two  don't wanna sign with us. Especially since Bouye is trying to stay in the division.

Right, the point I was making that if a FA the Colts were targeting chose to sign somewhere else, it is not necessarily the fault or approach of the Colts.  Getting back to Jeffrey though, that price that Holder floated is steep.  Depending on the structure you could go that route but I don't see the Colts paying him more than TY.

[twfish]

1 minute ago, aaron11 said:

this next season will be telling with DM.  right now hes mostly only producing in the red zone and was tied for 41st in TDs last year

 

we can blame coaching, or maybe this is who he is.  it should be clear in the next year or two

I will agree the next year or 2 will tell. I'm not saying he's a top receiver by any means. I just beleive he has shown he can produce

[dgambill]

8 minutes ago, BullsColtsFan1 said:

Yea they have Nelson Agholor too.  I am with you, I like his size but not sure about his injury past among other things.

You probably know him better than me. Didn't he have a PED suspension? Maybe I'm wrong because I know he has missed time with injuries too. There are times I would kill to have him on the field...but I'm not sure I would invest long term money into him. He would have to accept a short deal for me.

[OffensivelyPC]

3 minutes ago, twfish said:

I'm not arguing calling him a "beast" I'm arguing to what was said about him not showing much.

Ah, gotcha.  Yeah, the opposite extreme is also untrue.  He absolutely does have a place on this team and he's done more than "not show much."

[Defjamz26]

37 minutes ago, Rick_Grimes said:

The Eagles would never trade Matthews for Dorsett.

Sure they would. The current staff didn't draft him. All this talk about them trading for Cooks is nuts considering they're low on draft picks from the Carson Wentz trade. They want better WRs without giving up much because they have needs. Dorsett offers potential and Matthews would be the odd man out if they land Jeffrey. Trading for Dorsett would allow them to get a WR better than Agholor without giving up draft picks. Their WR core would be:

Torry Smith

Alshon Jeffrey 

DGB

Phillip Dorsett

Agholar

 

But we could also toss them another player in a package deal.

[Dilger85]

3 minutes ago, Fisticuffs111 said:

I mean, we don't know, but I seriously doubt those two  don't wanna sign with us. Especially since Bouye is trying to stay in the division.

I also hope the Colts go all out on Bouye.

[Fisticuffs111]

2 minutes ago, Dilger85 said:

Right, the point I was making that if a FA the Colts were targeting chose to sign somewhere else, it is not necessarily the fault or approach of the Colts.  Getting back to Jeffrey though, that price that Holder floated is steep.  Depending on the structure you could go that route but I don't see the Colts paying him more than TY.

Yeah, agreed.

[BullsColtsFan1]

1 minute ago, dgambill said:

You probably know him better than me. Didn't he have a PED suspension? Maybe I'm wrong because I know he has missed time with injuries too. There are times I would kill to have him on the field...but I'm not sure I would invest long term money into him. He would have to accept a short deal for me.

You are correct.  He was suspended 4 games for PED's.  I honestly think he'll demand to much money and go back to the Bears.  I think the Titans could be a dark horse to sign him as well. 

[NannyMcafee]

I won't  mind this if we can get a good oline man as well. If not.... it's kind of a head scratcher. Then again... maybe Dorsett is out. 

[backshoulderfade]

Dont want to pay him a massive amount, and injuries do concern me. That said, we have no one on our offense who can do what he does.

[csmopar]

we have a thread for that....

 

 

[That Guy]

Anyone remember what Luck and AJ Green showed at the Pro Bowl a couple years back?  If Alshon Jeffery could bring that to Indy, he'd be worth money around a TY-and-a-half deal.

[12isthenew18]

2 minutes ago, That Guy said:

Anyone remember what Luck and AJ Green showed at the Pro Bowl a couple years back?  If Alshon Jeffery could bring that to Indy, he'd be worth money around a TY-and-a-half deal.

 

That means franchise QB salary. Nobody will do that for a receiver who isn't even top 10

[PhillyCOLTSfan]

53 minutes ago, Vinatieri4 said:

Unfortunely Moncrief is not a beast, he hasn't shown much.

U must be talking bout a different moncrief dude scored a td every game he played in fully how is tht not a beast, when he on the field 

[That Guy]

Just now, 12isthenew18 said:

That means franchise QB salary. Nobody will do that for a receiver who isn't even top 10

I doubt the contract would be for that amount, but he'd still be worth it.  That was Luck with a touchdown-at-will kind of difference maker.

 

Alshon has top 10 potential, he just needs to get his act together.  All-in-all, I'm hoping this deal DOESN'T go down; but it would change our franchise if it did.

[PhillyCOLTSfan]

1 hour ago, Defjamz26 said:

I'd rather trade Dorsett to the Eagles for Jordan Matthews. They just got Smith. If they get Jeffrey that's your number 1 and 2. Plus they have Green-Beckham.

 

Not that I really believe in this rumor though. The Colts have been linked to all of the top FAs. Poe, Bouye, Perry, and Zeitler. This happens every year though.

Matthews is garbage he 6'3 can only play slot and only makes plays in garbage time when the game is out of reach 

[JColts72]

So much then getting D help.

[BullsColtsFan1]

2 minutes ago, JColts72 said:

So much then getting D help.

There's still the draft.  I wouldn't get to worked up if this deal goes through.  There's plenty of cap space as well. 

[Devildog]

I'm all for it even if we have to get rid of Dorsett and a bag of peanuts.  TY, Moncrief, Jeffery, plus Doyle, man,  that would be deadly. 

[Colt Overseas]

I'm surprised by this. When Ballard has always talked so far about building the fronts, getting in good locker room guys and spending only a reasonable amount of money.

 

Jeffrey is none of these things.

[coltsfanatic24]

Signing Jeffery would make this offense top 3 in the league. Hilton led the league in yards without a consistent #2 WR. With Jeffrey everything becomes easier for Hilton and the other WR's. They will see a lot more single coverage. Luck will have a MVP caliber season if this happens. 

[Gabriel Alexander Morillo]

Goes to show you how much confidence/faith Ballard has in Dorsett and Moncrief.  Christ... 

[cbear]

I'm surprised most like this signing.  Giving big money to a WR with all the other needs on this team?

 

Can someone give me the low down on him?  Why is he so good? 

[Defjamz26]

6 minutes ago, PhillyCOLTSfan said:

Matthews is garbage he 6'3 can only play slot and only makes plays in garbage time when the game is out of reach 

No, Dorsett is garbage. Here's Matthews stats:

 

2014: 872 yds 

2015: 997 yds

2016: 800 yds

 

Mind you his QBs have been Mark Sanchez, Nick Foles, and Sam Bradford. He's an underrated receiver who would blossom under Luck. He's probably better than Moncrief.

[BullsColtsFan1]

1 minute ago, cbear said:

I'm surprised most like this signing.  Giving big money to a WR with all the other needs on this team?

 

Can someone give me the low down on him?  Why is he so good? 

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/J/JeffAl00.htm

 

There are his stats.  He's a tall (6'4") wide receiver who is very athletic.  His downfalls are the PED suspension and injuries. 

[pgt_rob]

Do you think our luck with FA wide receivers will still remain if we got Jeffery? Nobody seems to pan out here out of free agency.

[aaron11]

3 minutes ago, cbear said:

I'm surprised most like this signing.  Giving big money to a WR with all the other needs on this team?

 

Can someone give me the low down on him?  Why is he so good? 

he has 1000 yard, and 10 TD potential.  he hit those numbers once in his career  with the bears QBs throwing to him

 

he is young enough that he can get there again especially with luck

[CR91]

14 minutes ago, Colt Overseas said:

I'm surprised by this. When Ballard has always talked so far about building the fronts, getting in good locker room guys and spending only a reasonable amount of money.

 

Jeffrey is none of these things.

 

Things said the media means nothing. I've said that since day one

[Reboot]

He thinks he's a #1, and he was, often, so he'll chase money not opportunity.  I predict 49ers and something obscene like $12.5 million a year. 

[Nyvart]

He's going to get $8M or more per season -- absolutely no reason for this team to go down that rabbit hole with all of the needs on defense.  Plus, I think his better days are behind him.

[jvan1973]

9 minutes ago, pgt_rob said:

Do you think our luck with FA wide receivers will still remain if we got Jeffery? Nobody seems to pan out here out of free agency.

We haven't brought in any good wrs in their prime either

[stitches]

 

 

[throwing BBZ]

It is reported the Bears have offered him $13M.
We are desperate for another Big receiver that can also block.  Please not this guy!

[PrincetonTiger]

1 minute ago, stitches said:

 

 

Who will be upset First Alston or Torrey

[CheezyColt]

2 minutes ago, stitches said:

 

 

This just looks like an Eagles fan tweeting to me.