Colts receive Compensatory draft pick

[TKnight24]

 

[TKnight24]

 

 

[TKnight24]

 

 

[Smonroe]

Wasn't this announced a while back?  All the mocks I've seen had it.  

 

Maybe its official now?

[Superman]

2 minutes ago, Smonroe said:

Wasn't this announced a while back?  All the mocks I've seen had it.  

 

Maybe its official now?

 

Not official until now. 

[buccolts]

57 minutes ago, TKnight24 said:

 

 

TAILS!

[SaturdayAllDay]

38 minutes ago, Smonroe said:

Wasn't this announced a while back?  All the mocks I've seen had it.  

 

Maybe its official now?

I think it is cementing the actual pick, as we always knew we were getting a 4th round comp pick, but now we know it is the 144th Pick of the draft. 

[Valpo2004]

1 hour ago, Smonroe said:

Wasn't this announced a while back?  All the mocks I've seen had it.  

 

Maybe its official now?

 

Over the cap is very good at predicting these.  They where spot on with the Coby Fleener pick.  

 

Despite the fact that it's suppose to be a secret as to how they do it, I think it's an open secret to where it can be predicted by anyone who's paying close enough attention.  

[dw49]

28 minutes ago, buccolts said:

TAILS!

 

 

in football tails comes up 58% of the time

[throwing BBZ]

25 minutes ago, Valpo2004 said:

 

Over the cap is very good at predicting these.  They where spot on with the Coby Fleener pick.  

 

Despite the fact that it's suppose to be a secret as to how they do it, I think it's an open secret to where it can be predicted by anyone who's paying close enough attention.  

The formula has several nuances, but the salary he signed for is the main obvious base point.
Unfortunately he didn`t have a great year which could have bumped his slotting.
  16 comp picks allotted ahead of our pick, dang that is a lot of payers to be chosen ahead of us. lol

[rock8591]

Cutting Josh Freeman def hurt us that year. Would have been a better backup QB than Tolzein, also would have been no need to sign him.

[Flash7]

25 minutes ago, dw49 said:

 

 

in football tails comes up 58% of the time

Tails works 100% of the time, 58% of the time!

[CoachLite]

44 minutes ago, dw49 said:

 

 

in football tails comes up 58% of the time

 

Which means the coin is probably not a "fair coin". This should make Deflategate look trivial.

[dw49]

1 hour ago, CoachLite said:

 

Which means the coin is probably not a "fair coin". This should make Deflategate look trivial.

 

No doubt the coin is fixed. Needful investigation of teams that have called "tails" an inordinate majority of the time.

[dw49]

1 hour ago, Flash7 said:

Tails works 100% of the time, 58% of the time!

 

That would be just what I said ... 58% of the time.....I think.

[Yoshinator]

good news for sure. Wasn't 100% guaranteed we had the pick. Broncos were projected higher picks than what they got, and no 7ths were projected, and 3 were handed out. So no one ever knows for sure. Just glad the prediction on our end was accurate.

 

Now we can all start worrying about the coin flip at the combine for the 14th or 15th pick, lol!  

[RomanianColtsFan]

I wish they didn't sign Tolzien. Morris would have been good enough.

[Gabriel Alexander Morillo]

3 hours ago, dw49 said:

 

 

in football tails comes up 58% of the time

Seriously? That's actually very noticeable and weird. 

[NewColtsFan]

2 hours ago, rock8591 said:

Cutting Josh Freeman def hurt us that year. Would have been a better backup QB than Tolzein, also would have been no need to sign him.

 

 

I believe Freeman asked to be cut.

 

It's not clear why,  but I don't think it was our idea.     If I remember correctly,  it was his.

 

[Flash7]

56 minutes ago, dw49 said:

 

That would be just what I said ... 58% of the time.....I think.

Yup, just a joke based off of the movie Anchorman. "Sex panther...works 60% of the time, every time!"

[jameszeigler834]

I still think if none of our targets are there at 14 or 15 we need to trade down and get a few extra picks.

[Yoshinator]

2 minutes ago, Gabriel Alexander Morillo said:

Seriously? That's actually very noticeable and weird. 

Over the long term, it evens out. There are only 256 regular season coin flips a year, plus playoffs, so such a small sample size over a number of years can be somewhat lopsided. Over a million coin flips though in the long term, it would probably be close to 50/50. We will just never see the long term.

[Yoshinator]

Just now, jameszeigler834 said:

I still think if none of our targets are there at 14 or 15 we need to trade down and get a few extra picks.

I agree, it just depends on if guys like Foster (injury) fall, Solomon Thomas, Derek Barnett, and Dalvin Cook if we are interested. I would guess at least one of these guys falls to us, but you never know. If they don't, we should definitely trade down.

[Defjamz26]

Makes you wonder if we hadn't overpaid Allen if we would have gotten a higher pick. 

 

I still dont don't like the idea of comp picks though. Especially in the 3rd round.

[Yoshinator]

8 minutes ago, Defjamz26 said:

Makes you wonder if we hadn't overpaid Allen if we would have gotten a higher pick. 

 

I still dont don't like the idea of comp picks though. Especially in the 3rd round.

We would of probably got a 4th, but that's just a guess. Rather have two 4ths than a 4th and Allen though. Could of used them both to get an rb tandem.

[Tmoney]

Trade it for Mychal Kendricks!!!

[SaturdayAllDay]

10 minutes ago, Tmoney said:

Trade it for Mychal Kendricks!!!

If we absolutely had to id make that swap. 

That being said, it sounds like they just want out of his contract and could just end up releasing him. Id lowball them first (conditional 2018 7th round pick). Chances are they take that over nothing. 

[Tmoney]

7 minutes ago, SaturdayAllDay said:

If we absolutely had to id make that swap. 

That being said, it sounds like they just want out of his contract and could just end up releasing him. Id lowball them first (conditional 2018 7th round pick). Chances are they take that over nothing. 

Really I didn't know they might just flat out cut him, thought I heard they wanted a 4 for him. The lower the pick the better, but even the comp 4th is still great value. Freaky athlete who does struggle in coverage but that's why we drop Clayton on 3rd. Pair him next to good cover ILB like Zach Brown or Sean Spence and ILB goes from a weakness to a strength

[SaturdayAllDay]

1 minute ago, Tmoney said:

Really I didn't know they might just flat out cut him, thought I heard they wanted a 4 for him. The lower the pick the better, but even the comp 4th is still great value. Freaky athlete who does struggle in coverage but that's why we drop Clayton on 3rd. Pair him next to good cover ILB like Zach Brown or Sean Spence and ILB goes from a weakness to a strength

From the report I read:

"Still, the report says the Eagles think they can find a team interested in trading for him. If they can’t, they’d likely release him with a post-June 1 designation."

 

Source:http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/02/13/eagles-want-to-trade-mychal-kendricks/

 

I would assume he will have a few teams calling and asking about him, but I would throw out a lowball offer to start when I first called to check availability. If they bite, then all the better for us. If not, then we hit the negotiation table and go from there. 

[Tmoney]

15 minutes ago, SaturdayAllDay said:

From the report I read:

"Still, the report says the Eagles think they can find a team interested in trading for him. If they can’t, they’d likely release him with a post-June 1 designation."

 

Source:http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/02/13/eagles-want-to-trade-mychal-kendricks/

 

I would assume he will have a few teams calling and asking about him, but I would throw out a lowball offer to start when I first called to check availability. If they bite, then all the better for us. If not, then we hit the negotiation table and go from there. 

Agreed! I think he's the ideal Mike in a 3-4. We should seriously consider make that move

[SaturdayAllDay]

6 minutes ago, Tmoney said:

Agreed! I think he's the ideal Mike in a 3-4. We should seriously consider make that move

I wouldnt consider him an elite talent, but he can be a solid player, and with a defense as talent deficient as we are, solid will due wonders. Especially if it can be had for a late 4th round pick (or later). 

[indyagent17]

So why only 1 extra... Tolzine barley played and Freeman and Fleener played full seasons. Should we got like a 6 or 7 on top of this

[Tmoney]

1 hour ago, SaturdayAllDay said:

I wouldnt consider him an elite talent, but he can be a solid player, and with a defense as talent deficient as we are, solid will due wonders. Especially if it can be had for a late 4th round pick (or later). 

Yes not a pro bowl talent but with a hopefully improved front 5 he's the side line to side line type Mike we covet. But not even a 3 down backer would need our Will to be good in coverage.

[Lawrence Owen]

Sounds like to me we got a rb as a compensatory pick.....(unless by chance we end up taking 1 in the 1st....)

[chrisfarley]

the 7th is where we  could have snatched a punter....but that pick was given away to Cleveland by Grigson as I recall.  That hurts.

[dw49]

20 hours ago, Gabriel Alexander Morillo said:

Seriously? That's actually very noticeable and weird. 

 

 

Naa.. were just wasting time during this dead period. 

[dw49]

20 hours ago, Flash7 said:

Yup, just a joke based off of the movie Anchorman. "Sex panther...works 60% of the time, every time!"

 

 

Funny movie

[Narcosys]

On Friday, February 24, 2017 at 2:22 PM, TKnight24 said:

 

 

Is this guy for real? What we got was no where near what we lost.

[Superman]

On 2/24/2017 at 7:44 PM, indyagent17 said:

So why only 1 extra... Tolzine barley played and Freeman and Fleener played full seasons. Should we got like a 6 or 7 on top of this

 

6 hours ago, Narcosys said:

Is this guy for real? What we got was no where near what we lost.

 

It seems to start as just a man for man comparison. "You lost three UFAs, you signed two UFAs, you'll be eligible for 1 comp pick." After that, they start comparing the contracts, playing time, performance, awards, etc., to figure out when you'll get your comp pick. 

 

OTC has Freeman cancelling out Robinson (similar contracts, believe it or not), and Lowery cancelling out Tolzien. So those players and their achievements and playing time don't even factor in. Bottom line is we lost Fleener and didn't sign any UFA that paralleled his contract, so we are eligible for a comp pick to make up for that loss. Then they look at the value of Fleener's contract and his production/achievements, slot it with the other eligible players, and determine which of the 32ish comp picks we get.

 

https://overthecap.com/compensatory-draft-picks-cancellation-chart/

[Valpo2004]

On 2/24/2017 at 4:45 PM, throwing BBZ said:

The formula has several nuances, but the salary he signed for is the main obvious base point.
Unfortunately he didn`t have a great year which could have bumped his slotting.
  16 comp picks allotted ahead of our pick, dang that is a lot of payers to be chosen ahead of us. lol

 

I don't think they figure in how good of a year they had period.  Too hard to do because you would have to compare players across positions.  

 

I mean how do you compare a DL and his stats with a WR???  And what stats do you use for an OL?