Jon Gruden turns down Colts job despite interest from Irsay

[CF4L]

http://www.stampedeblue.com/2017/1/14/14273420/report-jon-gruden-turns-down-colts-job-despite-interest-from-jim-irsay-indianapolis-colts

[Andrew Luck fan club]

Exactly. He never even said he wanted to coach again. Now we can lock all those threads.

[ColtsStrong86]

This is not a good look, lol. What other options are there besides retaining Grigano? Harbaugh worth a pursue? 

[BOTT]

Impossible!!  Jimbo clearly said no sweeping changes weeks ago.

[Fisticuffs111]

I don't have much interest in watching another year of Pagano on the chopping block.

 

It's awkward for everybody. The coaches, the players, the fans.

[deedub75]

If this is true, he still needs to move on from people he clearly doesn't believe in. 

[BProland85]

Not surprising with the way Irsay handled this. To interview a potential candidate, you must have a vacancy. Instead, Irsay decided to keep everyone employed and in limbo which is ridiculous. 

[MPStack]

1 minute ago, BProland85 said:

Not surprising with the way Irsay handled this. To interview a potential candidate, you must have a vacancy. Instead, Irsay decided to keep everyone employed and in limbo which is ridiculous. 

 

What a vote of confidence!

[Mr. Irrelevant]

The worst possible outcome.

[Jdubu]

Until one of these 2 actually said they had a discussion about taking the job as the Colts head coaching spot, it's all speculation at this point. I am one who thinks Gruden is too far removed from the head coaching spot in todays league and did not want to see him hired here. I would rather see another name that either has just gotten his papers or a current OC with skill sets of a head coach, perhaps a former HC in the past turned back into a OC. I would like to see Pagano gone but not to just replace him with anyone.

[MPStack]

When can we start next year's new coach wish list?

[Jdubu]

3 minutes ago, BProland85 said:

Not surprising with the way Irsay handled this. To interview a potential candidate, you must have a vacancy. Instead, Irsay decided to keep everyone employed and in limbo which is ridiculous. 

Uh, no you don't, it is called exploration of options. I would have no doubt that if the 2 could have struck parameters of a deal, Jimmy would have created the opening and then announced a new hiring hours after. I would almost bet 99% of the time, teams term their current HC with someone in mind that they had explored interest and parameters with at least an agent if not the actual candidate. There is no illegal action to discuss getting a new guy even if you have a guy in place already.

[Fisticuffs111]

Think of FA. I'm sure players don't pay attention to other teams much but I'm sure some do, agents too.

If I were a player I probably wouldn't want to walk into this type of situation. Unless I was a WR or TE playing with Luck.

[ManningGM]

Surely Irsay wouldn't keep these two goons in place and cause even more havoc next season. No way he does that. 

[Shive]

This is very similar to the Miami situation years ago where they pursued Harbaugh while Sparano was still HC. Didn't end well for them... Hopefully it just lights a fire under Pags, the team rallies around him, and we stomp some faces next season.

[Corndog]

Now can the people who said Irsay wasn't doing anything admit they were wrong?  Probably not, also Schefter is an incredibly reliable source, so I am taking this as fact. 

[Fisticuffs111]

6 minutes ago, ManningGM said:

Surely Irsay wouldn't keep these two goons in place and cause even more havoc next season. No way he does that. 

I know it's unpopular to say anything bad about Irsay, but I already don't think he handled this whole situation well. I'm not putting it past him to keep Chuck and think everything's all good, that he can just talk away the rumors.

[#12.]

After reading Bondus' second tweet, I assumed he said no.

[Steamboat_Shaun]

5 minutes ago, Corndog said:

Now can the people who said Irsay wasn't doing anything admit they were wrong?  Probably not, also Schefter is an incredibly reliable source, so I am taking this as fact. 

 

Remeber last week when he said Pagano was "safe?"

[il vecchio]

Irsay saw a possibility to maybe make the team better, so he explored it.  Not unlike what Grigson does with players on the team.

Not every kick if the tires works out, but you gotta kick them, sometimes.

[MPStack]

10 minutes ago, Shive said:

This is very similar to the Miami situation years ago where they pursued Harbaugh while Sparano was still HC. Didn't end well for them... Hopefully it just lights a fire under Pags, the team rallies around him, and we stomp some faces next season.

 

If I was Pagano, I would resign yesterday! Embarrassing!

[MTC]

Embarrassing for both Irsay and Pagano that this got leaked. 

[indy1888]

7 minutes ago, Steamboat_Shaun said:

 

Remeber last week when he said Pagano was "safe?"

 

Yep, and all the local media was saying "not so fast".   Local media appears to have been correct all along.

[MPStack]

Just now, indy1888 said:

 

Yep, and all the local media was saying "not so fast".   Local media appears to have been correct all along.

 

The damage has been done! 

[OffensivelyPC]

And yet, still no changes...

[aReggie7]

This whole thing has been poorly handled by Irsay, imo. I actually feel bad for Pagano. Despite what anyone thinks of Pagano's coaching ability how can he be expected to do a good job next season? I don't care how much you are getting paid or how good you are at your job...it's difficult to do your job well when the owner doesn't have confidence in you.

[Mr. Irrelevant]

18 minutes ago, Shive said:

This is very similar to the Miami situation years ago where they pursued Harbaugh while Sparano was still HC. Didn't end well for them... Hopefully it just lights a fire under Pags, the team rallies around him, and we stomp some faces next season.

 

So you think the team will fully respect a man that the owner doesn't see fit to do his job? 

 

Pagano's authority was just shoot to hell by Irsay, if true.

 

Just think of the guys that will not be starters. Knives out situation.

[#12.]

2 minutes ago, ar7 said:

 Despite what anyone thinks of Pagano's coaching ability how can he be expected to do a good job next season? 

 

So, we might win 6 games instead of 8?

 

Chuck is holding a, what, 12 million dollar winning lottery ticket?  He and his family are set for life.  Regardless of what happens, I wouldn't feel too bad for Chuck.

[JColts72]

Says alot to not want to work for Jimmy. 

[Fisticuffs111]

Stephen Holder says players are contacting him trying to find out what's going on.

[corgi]

Pagano isn't coaching this team next year unlees he'sa lunatic. He just essentially found  out his wife was trying to leave him for another man, the other man said no but, he knows she's no longer fsithful and "until death do us part" was a flaming bag of dog poop. 

[corgi]

3 minutes ago, JColts72 said:

Says alot to not want to work for Jimmy. 

Or that Irsay didnt want to give in to his demands. 

[MTC]

1 minute ago, Fisticuffs111 said:

Stephen Holder says players are contacting him trying to find out what's going on.

 

Saw that too. We know more than the local media. They rarely ever get insights.

[#12.]

36 minutes ago, deedub75 said:

If this is true, he still needs to move on from people he clearly doesn't believe in. 

Guaranteed the Peyton stories were true, and he said no as well.

[BOTT]

Just now, MTC said:

 

Saw that too. We know more the local media. They rarely ever get insights.

JMV was reporting Irsay's interest in Gruden long before the midget from espn.

[Fisticuffs111]

1 minute ago, corgi said:

Pagano isn't coaching this team next year unlees he'sa lunatic. He just essentially found  out his wife was trying to leave him for another man, the other man said no but, he knows she's no longer fsithful and "until death do us part" was a flaming bag of dog poop. 

Money. Lots of money.

Pagano will either wait to be fired or coach out his contract.

[CF4L]

2 minutes ago, #12. said:

Guaranteed the Peyton stories were true, and he said no as well.

 

This I can believe as well although I'm surprised nobody asked Manning earlier this week when he was at the National Championship game.

[JColts72]

2 minutes ago, corgi said:

Or that Irsay didnt want to give in to his demands. 

Maybe keeping Ryan was part of the demand. Local media asleep at the wheel.

[UKCOLT17]

3 minutes ago, corgi said:

Or that Irsay didnt want to give in to his demands. 

 

Yep prob get rid of grigson.

[oldunclemark]

21 minutes ago, il vecchio said:

Irsay saw a possibility to maybe make the team better, so he explored it.  Not unlike what Grigson does with players on the team.

Not every kick if the tires works out, but you gotta kick them, sometimes.

Listen to Mr V.