Andrew Luck Signs (Merged)

[loudnproudcolt]

First off, the guaranteed money is 47M, but comes to 87M with the injury guarantee.

OTC already has Andrews contract on how much he will be paid, but most important it already has the structure of each year of the contract. It is not as front loaded as I thought, but they did a good job, andI must say it is very team friendly. If we look at the salary cap growing at 8% each year, these will be his cap hits. This year, cap hit is now 18.4M, which is only 11.8% of the cap, and it leaves us 13.5M of cap space to roll over to next year. If we assume the cap will continue to increase at 8% a year until the CBA ends after the 2020 season, the 2017 cap should be around 168M, his cap hit is 19.4/M for the year, so he will take up 11.5% of the cap, and if we look at the rollover of cap space, it leaves us 55M heading into 2017 with Luck's salary included. I don't know what the rollovers will be going forward, but that much cap space going into next year is quite a bit, and leaves us some ability if a FA or two is out there we really want, even though we are now dedicated to the draft. Side note though, we could easily fit Muhammed Wilkerson as a FA this year, or next. In 2018 Luck's cap hit increases to 24.4M, but assuming the cap rise of 8%, his cap hit will be 13%. 2019 cap hit at 27.5M, but assuming the cap increase his cap hit is 14%. The last year of the CBA, not his contract is as far as I will go with the breakdown. Cap hit in 2020 is 28.4M, and comes out to 13%.

 

I was surprised the contract is not as front loaded as I thought, but the important thing is all his cap hits are right around 13% and provides flexibility. I mentioned earlier in a post that over the years. GM's, cap specialists tend to look at 13% as the amount they like to spend on an elite QB if possible. That is their goal. Seems like they did a very good job of the structure. It is team friendly, and looking at cap space, although building through the draft, we will have money to add key FA's if we want to and sign our own players to extensions. I like the contract, and if you look at the crazy money Osweiller got and Bradford, I think we will look back in a couple of years and think we got a bargain. Of course that is if Andrew is playing well, but I anticipate he will. I believe the last year did wonders for him. Fully healthy, and a lot of times being on the sideline and watching the game gives a great QB a whole new look at the game which really can help a player. I think with Chud. rolling him out at times, using some shorter throws, and hopefully a much better OL, he is going to have a really good year. The link below is for OTC if you want to look at the payout on the front page, and then go into the Colts calculator, and you can see the payouts. Once again, this is based on the cap growing at 8% each year. It may slow down, but this has been the increase the last 3 years now.

 

I have seen both sides of the argument of how cap friendly it is. Many think the guaranteed money is too high. Yes it is, but any contract where you have an upper echelon QB never counting more than 14% against the cap, I believe it is a very team friendly contract. We will have plenty of cap space going forward.

 

So are you happy with the way it got structured, since it is the most important part of the contract.

 

http://overthecap.com/

[ColtsBlueFL]

1 hour ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Great news, one less thing we have to worry about. We have him at least through the 2021 Season. He has 6 years now to try and get us a SB win. I guess he isn't leaving the Colts like some opposing fans were hoping for and some of the media seem to be wishing for. This contract will put Andrew through his prime years now.

 

He's been paid like a Super Bowl winner.  {Rogers, Flacco, Wilson, etc...}.  He's now got to notch one now.  He's a 2 SB capable QB, and he has to improve (reduce the INT / Fumbles, etc...) and learn to protect himself better and stay on the field.  I believe he is worth the deal, but now he needs to prove it much like JJ Watt did after his big deal. I feel he can, but others out there are not so sure.

 

And yes, in 3 years it will look good for the Colts, especially as the likes of Winston, Mariota, Carr, and possibly even Cousins look for their Mega deals...

 

P.S. leave it to Gil Brandt-

 

 

Andrew needs deductions... and fast!!!

[2006Coltsbestever]

18 minutes ago, CF4L said:

 

True it could be redone but to say Luck is going to spend his entire career here is rather unrealistic considering past history.

 

How many thought Manning would retire elsewhere? He did and he's as big an icon for the Indy Colts as you can get.

 

Freeney, Clark, Saturday etc all ended up getting tossed aside even with their deals with the Colts. Nothing about Luck makes me think he's an exception over them.

 

These contracts don't guarantee anything except right now that Andrew Luck is the QB of the Colts for the foreseeable future but we don't know how long that future will be. 

 

 

Peyton had a neck injury and many thought he wouldn't be the same after words. Not only that we knew we were getting Luck in the Draft so it was time to move on. Peyton spent 14 years here and in order to rebuild and get under the Salary Cap we had to let him go, you act like we did him dirty and just got rid of him after his 6th or 7th season or something. We weren't winning a SB with Peyton with the Roster we had anyway. Who really cares if Luck spends his whole career here, we now have him through his prime years and for the next 6 seasons. The 49ers let Montana walk because they had Steve Young, it happens! Worry about this stuff in the year 2022 which is a long ways off and please try to be more positive. Almost everyone of your Post seems to be negative.

[2006Coltsbestever]

12 minutes ago, ColtsBlueFL said:

 

He's been paid like a Super Bowl winner.  {Rogers, Flacco, Wilson, etc...}.  He's now got to notch one now.  He's a 2 SB capable QB, and he has to improve (reduce the INT / Fumbles, etc...) and learn to protect himself better and stay on the field.  I believe he is worth the deal, but now he needs to prove it much like JJ Watt did after his big deal. I feel he can, but others out there are not so sure.

 

And yes, in 3 years it will look good for the Colts, especially as the likes of Winston, Mariota, Carr, and possibly even Cousins look for their Mega deals...

 

P.S. leave it to Gil Brandt-

 

 

Andrew needs deductions... and fast!!!

I think Andrew will win a SB eventually. It took Peyton 9 seasons. If I had to put an over/under on his SB wins I would put at 2.5 as I think we could win 2 or 3 with Andrew. I would say in a couple seasons once we build the Defense a bit better we will start to roll. The Patriots will be garbage once Brady and Belichick retire as well. I give them maybe 2 or 3 more years of Very Good to Great play and that is about it.

[NewColtsFan]

40 minutes ago, CF4L said:

 

True it could be redone but to say Luck is going to spend his entire career here is rather unrealistic considering past history.

 

How many thought Manning would retire elsewhere? He did and he's as big an icon for the Indy Colts as you can get.

 

Freeney, Clark, Saturday etc all ended up getting tossed aside even with their deals with the Colts. Nothing about Luck makes me think he's an exception over them.

 

These contracts don't guarantee anything except right now that Andrew Luck is the QB of the Colts for the foreseeable future but we don't know how long that future will be. 

 

 

 

I'm not saying Luck will be in Indy for his entire career.

 

Only for the length of this contract.      Wasn't trying to imply anything else.

 

Hope that clarifies....

 

[2006Coltsbestever]

18 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said:

 

I'm not saying Luck will be in Indy for his entire career.

 

Only for the length of this contract.      Wasn't trying to imply anything else.

 

Hope that clarifies....

 

Like I was explaining to CFL4 I really don't even think it matters if he plays his whole career here as long as we have him through his prime years which we will now. If he doesn't win a SB by 2021 then he probably wont  with us anyway. Peyton won another SB but went to a team that built a stacked a Defense and I am happy for him. Our Cap situation in 2011 was horrible and so was our Roster. Other Greatest ever type of players that played throughout their prime years with the teams they got Drafted by but were let go were Montana, Jerry Rice, E. Smith, and Marcus Allen. Like I said it happens. Peyton spent 14 seasons here and wasn't done dirty at all. Irsay even paid him 25 Mill in 2011 and he didn't even play a down.

[Superman]

4 hours ago, NewColtsFan said:

 

Here's an ESPN story that says that while Luck got a very nice record breaking contract,  the view within the NFL is that he actually left a lot of money on the negotiating table.

 

That he had a LOT more leverage,  and chose not to use it.     And that by doing so,  he hurt other top tier QB's in the league who were hoping he'd hold out for even more.      An interesting perspective.

 

Just click and read.....    it's a non-premium story.

 

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/16621472/andrew-luck-indianapolis-colts-87-million-guaranteed-contract-letdown-future-quarterbacks

 

I disagree with a lot of that article. If the bottom line is that Luck could have set the bar higher, then sure, that's true. Nitpicking because he didn't is kind of silly, though. Comparing the structure of his guaranteed money to other players shows a lack of understanding of how guarantees work and how they're funded -- basically the only reason Luck's guarantees are rolling and staggered is because the Colts don't want to place $87m in escrow right now; they're all but his already.

 

I don't think Luck hurt anyone's leverage. The market for top tier QB contracts has been set for several years now, and it's basically 'the next guy up gets a little bit more than the last guy did.' That goes back to Eli and Brady in 2010, and it's why Rodgers has been the top guy since 2013.

 

All that, and the media was still able to report this as $25m/year, $87m guaranteed. We all know it works differently than that, but the headline numbers are there. I don't think Luck's deal lets any future players down. They know that if they have success after four years, they can come in a little higher than Luck, especially if they're on a fifth year option.

[Superman]

2 hours ago, Narcosys said:

smdh.  I've just read up on all Superman has said but it only slightly alleviates my issues with this.  That being he doesn't deserve it.  He hasn't played or shown the potential to play at that kind of level that he just got paid. 

 

Teams are not happy with the colts right now that's for sure.  Now contracts are really going to get skewed.  

 

The contracts for players like Olivier Vernon, Malik Jackson and Josh Norman have skewed the market far more than what the top of the market QBs get. I'd even argue Brock Osweiler and Sam Bradford have impacted the market more than Luck's deal -- mediocre QBs with no record of being able to lead their teams to victory are making what top of the market QBs with SB wins were making just five years ago.

 

I think what Luck does or doesn't deserve, has or hasn't shown, is a matter of perspective, very subjective. There are arguments for both sides. However, to me, the question is about how it affects the team. He's the Colts franchise QB, and he's easily good enough to win a SB with. You're not going to try to replace him, so you pay him market value. I'm not too concerned about whether he got $21m/year or $23m/year, I'm just glad the contract got done and isn't messing up the Colts cap situation.

[Superman]

1 hour ago, Narcosys said:

My question about the article is why would passing $27M of the guarantee into years 3 and 4 be a risk for the player.  It's still all guaranteed.  Is it because it becomes more incentive laden? 

 

It's technically not guaranteed. The guarantees kick in gradually.

[2006Coltsbestever]

32 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Like I was explaining to CFL4 I really don't even think it matters if he plays his whole career here as long as we have him through his prime years which we will now. If he doesn't win a SB by 2021 then he probably wont  with us anyway. Peyton won another SB but went to a team that built a stacked a Defense and I am happy for him. Our Cap situation in 2011 was horrible and so was our Roster. Other Greatest ever type of players that played throughout their prime years with the teams they got Drafted by but were let go were Montana, Jerry Rice, E. Smith, and Marcus Allen. Like I said it happens. Peyton spent 14 seasons here and wasn't done dirty at all. Irsay even paid him 25 Mill in 2011 and he didn't even play a down.

Montana actually got traded by the 49ers not just let go which is even worse. At least Irsay let Peyton play his contract out and Peyton was let go being a Free Agent.

[crazycolt1]

31 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Montana actually got traded by the 49ers not just let go which is even worse. At least Irsay let Peyton play his contract out and Peyton was let go being a Free Agent.

It wasn't so bad when you had Steve Young waiting in the wings. Bill Walsh was smart enough to know when to make the trade and when to start Young. Montana's legend has grown to where some think he is the greatest but Young might have been a better player. The super bowls is what separates the difference but super bowls are a team thing. Things like most people who talk of Jerry Rice automatically put Joe Montana's name beside. In reality Rice-Young combination had more numbers together than Montana-Rice.

[2006Coltsbestever]

4 minutes ago, crazycolt1 said:

It wasn't so bad when you had Steve Young waiting in the wings. Bill Walsh was smart enough to know when to make the trade and when to start Young. Montana's legend has grown to where some think he is the greatest but Young might have been a better player. The super bowls is what separates the difference but super bowls are a team thing. Things like most people who talk of Jerry Rice automatically put Joe Montana's name beside. In reality Rice-Young combination had more numbers together than Montana-Rice.

Yes they had Steve Young waiting and we had Andrew Luck waiting is precisely my point. Many people bash Irsay though for letting Peyton walk so I wanted to point out at least he didnt trade him and he even paid Peyton for the duration of his contract. I think the 49ers made the right choice by the way because Young was younger and up and coming just like I think we did.

[RockThatBlue]

[AZColt11]

I simply don't understand how any informed Colts fan would not be down with this deal (I DO understand how rival fans wouldn't though).  Most "experts" were predicting around $25M/year.  It's less.  There are AT LEAST 10 other teams that would love to trade places with the Colts, likely more.  It's a nice "problem" to have.  After a few years his deal will be middle of the road for starting QB's.  His cap % isn't really much different than what Manning used to cover and the Colts were still able to be competitive and even win a Title.  So it's more on the front office to spend wisely.  As Superman pointed out, there's still around 87% of the cap to spread around.  And lastly, it's not YOUR money.  Irsay is paying it, and he's going to charge the same amount for ticket prices whether Luck is here or not, so he may as well make it count.  And if that isn't enough?  If the Colts DIDN'T sign him, there would be a line of GM's waiting to do so, and probably even pay more than the Colts, and the Colts would be rebuilding from square 1 again.  

 

To me this is really a no-brainer.

[2006Coltsbestever]

2 minutes ago, AZColt11 said:

I simply don't understand how any informed Colts fan would not be down with this deal (I DO understand how rival fans wouldn't though).  Most "experts" were predicting around $25/year.  It's less.  There are AT LEAST 10 other teams that would love to trade places with the Colts, likely more.  It's a nice "problem" to have.  After a few years his deal will be middle of the road for starting QB's.  His cap % isn't really much different than what Manning used to cover and the Colts were still able to be competitive and even win a Title.  So it's more on the front office to spend wisely.  As Superman pointed out, there's still around 87% of the cap to spread around.  And lastly, it's not YOUR money.  Irsay is paying it, and he's going to charge the same amount for ticket prices whether Luck is here or not, so he may as well make it count.  And if that isn't enough?  If the Colts DIDN'T sign him, there would be a line of GM's waiting to do so, and probably even pay more than the Colts, and the Colts would be rebuilding from square 1 again.  

 

To me this is really a no-brainer.

I agree 100%. I have been to some other Sites and the haters (mainly Pats fans) are bashing the Colts and Luck saying he doesn't deserve the deal, calling Irsay insane. These people are completely jealous because this is a Cap friendly deal for the Colts and Andrew is a Franchise QB, especially Patriots fans are jealous because we have a Franchise QB locked up for at least 6 years and when their precious Brady retires here in a few years they will stink. Any Patriots fan would have to be a classified dummy not to take Andrew over Tom Brady for future purposes. If the Patriots don't win the SB this upcoming season their goose is cooked, they will only get worse at that point and we will just keep getting better and better. The Colts have plenty of time to be Great again, the clock is ticking with the Patriots. Tick Tock Tick Tock  

[theanarchist]

This deal is a no brainer and I don't understand the people who have a problem with it. Simply put if we don't give Andrew Luck this deal we have no chance at winning a Super Bowl for the forseeable future. We now have the potential to do so. In the NFL if you don't have a top tier QB you have almost no chance to win a SB.

[2006Coltsbestever]

4 minutes ago, theanarchist said:

This deal is a no brainer and I don't understand the people who have a problem with it. Simply put if we don't give Andrew Luck this deal we have no chance at winning a Super Bowl for the forseeable future. We now have the potential to do so. In the NFL if you don't have a top tier QB you have almost no chance to win a SB.

Exactly, not only was it a great deal for the Colts but it makes Andrew even look like he's not greedy or wanting to leave. Andrew actually could've got more money but chose to agree to the deal that was offered. Also yes, without a Top tier QB your team is screwed. Andrew is Top tier. He may not be Top 5 at the moment but he's a Franchise QB and in the Top 10 at worse.

[AZColt11]

15 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

I agree 100%. I have been to some other Sites and the haters (mainly Pats fans) are bashing the Colts and Luck saying he doesn't deserve the deal, calling Irsay insane. These people are completely jealous because this is a Cap friendly deal for the Colts and Andrew is a Franchise QB, especially Patriots fans are jealous because we have a Franchise QB locked up for at least 6 years and when their precious Brady retires here in a few years they will stink. Any Patriots fan would have to be a classified dummy not to take Andrew over Tom Brady for future purposes. If the Patriots don't win the SB this upcoming season their goose is cooked, they will only get worse at that point and we will just keep getting better and better. The Colts have plenty of time to be Great again, the clock is ticking with the Patriots. Tick Tock Tick Tock  

Absolutely.  Are the Pats better now?  Of course.  But its a different situation.  They have the proven, multi-Superbowl winning QB but who is near the twilight of his career.  Luck has not won a title yet but has a bundle of potential and MANY more years to do it.  I think sometimes when they post things they compare the situation to their own team, which is insane.  Of course Brady is worth more than Luck at THIS stage in their careers.  But they aren't the same age people!  Not even close.  And Brady has taken less to give the Pats more cap room, this is true.  Of course his WIFE makes WAY more than he does, and he makes plenty, so it would be easier to do that (not to mention the money he makes in endorsement opportunities).  They are totally different situations really.  But I don't think Pats fans see that.  I'm sure they would rather the Colts let Luck walk and watch the Colts rebuild again.

[loudnproudcolt]

I thought I would update something I found interesting about the contract. Andrew Brandt, ESPN's financial guy was on Mike and Mike. He said some interesting things. First, he felt the contract was a very good contract, and expected it to be higher. He looked at the cap numbers going forward, and thought it was a team friendly deal. He also said it had to be done, and this was the year to do it.

 

Second, I posted the cap numbers above and the structure of the contract. Brandt updated what he believed the cap numbers would be going forward, and they are higher than what I have heard, and he would know. I guess more TV revenue will be kicking in. He said in 2017, he felt the cap would go up to between 171-175M, which means Andrews cap hit for that year will only be around 11%. He also said he felt the cap numbers would continue to go up at a clip where the cap hit would be very reasonable, and not stop the team from signing young talent we drafted, and have some extra room for possible FA's. He mentioned the cap would be above 200M much sooner than I anticipated.

 

Last, and what I thought was the most important point. Brandt said he thought the contract possibly would be the first fully guaranteed contract. He said he had other cap guys who thought this might happen also. The fact it was "only 87M" guaranteed surprised him a bit, which he felt was another bright spot for the contract and the Colts going forward.

 

[jameszeigler834]

17 hours ago, Track Guy said:

 

So we're probably talking about a total value in the low 120s (mil)?

I saw on NFL.com's site its a 6 year deal 140 million dollars 60 million fully guaranteed 75 million over the first 3 years and a net average of 24.6 million a year.

[Valpo2004]

You know looking at the structure of the deal, I'm not all that bothered by it.  Colts have tons of control after the 2017 season.  

 

I have a feeling that in a few years this deal looks pretty tame.  

 

I mean if you remember JJ Watt a few years back got a big contract.  But if you look at that contract now, it looks tame as several lesser players blew past JJ's contract.  

[2006Coltsbestever]

2 hours ago, AZColt11 said:

Absolutely.  Are the Pats better now?  Of course.  But its a different situation.  They have the proven, multi-Superbowl winning QB but who is near the twilight of his career.  Luck has not won a title yet but has a bundle of potential and MANY more years to do it.  I think sometimes when they post things they compare the situation to their own team, which is insane.  Of course Brady is worth more than Luck at THIS stage in their careers.  But they aren't the same age people!  Not even close.  And Brady has taken less to give the Pats more cap room, this is true.  Of course his WIFE makes WAY more than he does, and he makes plenty, so it would be easier to do that (not to mention the money he makes in endorsement opportunities).  They are totally different situations really.  But I don't think Pats fans see that.  I'm sure they would rather the Colts let Luck walk and watch the Colts rebuild again.

Great Post. I have nothing to add to it!

[JColts72]

Amount of money is INSANE. If it was another non-Colt player, fans will be saying cash pay out is bad. Not too many objective fans here. Where is the money going to come from to shore up other areas such as D? as this remains an ongoing problem for the last decade. Guess the D will be built through the draft. Luck/Colts need to deliver. Would be nice to see at least 1 title during this contract period.

[2006Coltsbestever]

9 minutes ago, JColts72 said:

Amount of money is INSANE. If it was another non-Colt player, fans will be saying cash pay out is bad. Not too many objective fans here. Where is the money going to come from to shore up other areas such as D? as this remains an ongoing problem for the last decade. Guess the D will be built through the draft. Luck/Colts need to deliver. Would be nice to see at least 1 title during this contract period.

Andrew could've actually got more money.

[crazycolt1]

8 minutes ago, JColts72 said:

Amount of money is INSANE. If it was another non-Colt player, fans will be saying cash pay out is bad. Not too many objective fans here. Where is the money going to come from to shore up other areas such as D? as this remains an ongoing problem for the last decade. Guess the D will be built through the draft. Luck/Colts need to deliver. Would be nice to see at least 1 title during this contract period.

The D needs to be built through the draft. High price band aids never work out. Maybe if you read the contract compared to other franchise QBs you will see it is not that much higher. Keep in mind it is a six year deal. It is not the doom and gloom contract you seem to think it is.

[2006Coltsbestever]

1 minute ago, crazycolt1 said:

The D needs to be built through the draft. High price band aids never work out. Maybe if you read the contract compared to other franchise QBs you will see it is not that much higher. Keep in mind it is a six year deal. It is not the doom and gloom contract you seem to think it is.

I agree. The numbers look insane but in reality the deal is Cap friendly. We need to build through the Draft anyway and hope we can land our next Freeney or Mathis within the next 2 or 3 years.

[JColts72]

52 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

I agree. The numbers look insane but in reality the deal is Cap friendly. We need to build through the Draft anyway and hope we can land our next Freeney or Mathis within the next 2 or 3 years.

 

55 minutes ago, crazycolt1 said:

The D needs to be built through the draft. High price band aids never work out. Maybe if you read the contract compared to other franchise QBs you will see it is not that much higher. Keep in mind it is a six year deal. It is not the doom and gloom contract you seem to think it is.

Did not say it's doom and gloom, but let's be realistic here instead of blind royalty. If it was Brady who got this amount, the forum will be lit up with such negativity.

[King Colt]

This is no surprise to anyone. The Colts are a young team so the money issue may surface in three or four years after the young guns have established themselves and want more money. Right now the OL and RB issues are still out there but the dust may settle if the two items prove to be at least fixed for the year. By the way Kevin Durant makes $228,000,000. If you could break down Luck's deal I read it could be $147,000,000. (The Carolina Panthers better be saving their money.)

[Superman]

3 hours ago, loudnproudcolt said:

Second, I posted the cap numbers above and the structure of the contract. Brandt updated what he believed the cap numbers would be going forward, and they are higher than what I have heard, and he would know. I guess more TV revenue will be kicking in. He said in 2017, he felt the cap would go up to between 171-175M, which means Andrews cap hit for that year will only be around 11%. He also said he felt the cap numbers would continue to go up at a clip where the cap hit would be very reasonable, and not stop the team from signing young talent we drafted, and have some extra room for possible FA's. He mentioned the cap would be above 200M much sooner than I anticipated.

 

Good points. I've been projecting 7.5% cap increases because that's been about the average the past three years. That's admittedly conservative, and I bet NFL front offices are using even more conservative projections in their planning.

 

There are a few things that should push the cap higher. Football revenues are increasing. Between TV deals, streaming rights, equipment deals (Microsoft Surface, for example), the Rams increased value in LA, and even the Rams relocation fee, NFL revenue is continually rising. The target is $25B by 2027, from the ~$12B they're at now. There will be a new CBA by then, so the players' guaranteed percentage might change, but just tying it to 47% over the next five years, the cap should be increasing by close to 9% on average. I wouldn't be surprised if the cap is at $220m in 2020, the final year of the CBA.

 

But if the cap does go up by 8.5%, instead of 7.5%, Luck's deal would top out at 13.9% of the Colts cap. If you include rollover, that percentage goes down. 

 

Brandt's projection is even more aggressive. For the cap to go to $171-175m next year, that's an increase of 9 - 11%. 

[HOZER]

Glad signing him is over with, congrats Andrew!!!!!! Now let's go out there and DO WORK this season!!!!!!!!

[crazycolt1]

1 hour ago, JColts72 said:

 

Did not say it's doom and gloom, but let's be realistic here instead of blind royalty. If it was Brady who got this amount, the forum will be lit up with such negativity.

Reading and understanding Lucks contract is not blind royalty. Lucks contract is in line for other franchise quarterbacks. It has been explained pretty much into detail and the cap hit that comes with it by other forum members. It is a team friendly contract. Why are you even bringing Brady into this thread. Brady has zero to do with the Colts and Lucks contract. For myself I couldn't care less about what Brady's contract is.

[dgambill]

8 hours ago, RockThatBlue said:

Luck looks like a young adam sandler there lol!!!

[Jason_]

3 hours ago, JColts72 said:

Amount of money is INSANE. If it was another non-Colt player, fans will be saying cash pay out is bad. Not too many objective fans here. Where is the money going to come from to shore up other areas such as D? as this remains an ongoing problem for the last decade. Guess the D will be built through the draft. Luck/Colts need to deliver. Would be nice to see at least 1 title during this contract period.

 

the plan was always to build the entire team (defense included) through the draft.  That was the plan from day one with this regime.  They had to bring in a lot of mid-level FAs during that time to bandaid the holes on defense because they chose to really build the offense first.  Now that the offense (aside from the OL) is mostly settled, they've been spending more and more draft resources on the defense.  There was never any intent to build the defense through free agency.  Not sure what would have given anyone that idea.

[BullsColtsFan1]

Booger McFarlane says "Luck didn't earn his contract".  Kinda bogus in my opinion.

[theanarchist]

If Luck would have become a free agent he would have gotten more I'm sure. People need to understand that any team with a true franchise QB is going to walk this line. It had to happen. If you let a QB like Luck walk he gets a payday elsewhere and you have nothing to show for it. It isn't a tough decision at all. Theres like 24 other teams in the NFL that would have taken this deal.

[BOTT]

33 minutes ago, BullsColtsFan1 said:

Booger McFarlane says "Luck didn't earn his contract".  Kinda bogus in my opinion.

Former athletes lead the media in the "dumbest comment ever" category. 

[Mr. Irrelevant]

36 minutes ago, BullsColtsFan1 said:

Booger McFarlane says "Luck didn't earn his contract".  Kinda bogus in my opinion.

Do you pay players for what they have done (in the past) or for what you believe they will do in the future? You pay for what their will do going forward, IMO. 

[Jason_]

50 minutes ago, BullsColtsFan1 said:

Booger McFarlane says "Luck didn't earn his contract".  Kinda bogus in my opinion.

 

and....?

[BullsColtsFan1]

54 minutes ago, Jason_S said:

 

and....?

I just didn't think that needed to be said.  It's almost like he's jealous or something.  I am not sure why anyone would question what he's done in 3 in a half years.

[MTC]

Did Luck deserve the new contract based off how he played? No.

 

Was it necessary to sign him to that? Very much, yes.