Colts select Le'Raven Clark, OL, Texas Tech

[Surge89]

56 minutes ago, Dustin said:

Oh god

 

Wow now this is interesting do you not like because of his 0 presence at a pro scheme tackle spot?

 

I'm very very high on him mainly because I would have drafted him as a guard with potential to play tackle.  But the main reason I'm high on him is because he has everything you can't teach going to a coach who can get some production from olines.

 

What's your take?

[LJpalmbeacher2]

49 minutes ago, PrincetonTiger said:

If he can become a good run blocker the Colts could have a keeper

 

I think he will be better at pass blocking.

And he is a keeper. Just a question of when he will start.

[jbaron04]

1 minute ago, Bluefire4 said:

Pass rushers mainly. The draft is deep on both lines but not deep in pass rush. Most of the pass rushers are gone now.

That my point when we made the choice to get Kelly we was not gonna be able to get a good pass rusher,  I love the Kelly pick. Luck is the most important player on this team we still have Robert etc... we need to protect luck so I love the picks next yr we go all in for pass rushers . We can only fix so much at a time so I love that we chose oline 

[ColtStrong]

5 minutes ago, chad hugo said:

Oline taken care of, now expect defensive picks for the rest of the draft.

Not a bad idea, except I would take a chance on a late round RB.

[Myles]

32 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

How that Safety (TJ) is blazing fast and hits like a truck. I love this Draft so far.

Great pick.  It really puts the microscope on that 2nd pick.

 

I'm going off his poor tackling stats and QB play when he was targeted.

[BProland85]

45 minutes ago, Valpo2004 said:

Wonder if they are still considering moving Mewhort out to RT?  Maybe this guy is someone to compete to fill in at LG.

 

I think Clark has a better ceiling at OT than Mewhort. Clark seems more quick footed and Mewhort seems to fit well at LG. Don't mess with a good thing. 

[GoColts8818]

59 minutes ago, MTC said:

Where's our pass rush though?

Mathis and Cole for another year and then hit OLBer hard.

[akcolt]

52 minutes ago, MTC said:

Where's our pass rush though?

We will get some help tomorrow. I have no problem not forcing a pick for an edge rusher. I didn't see anyone I really liked. It was a weak class and we have plenty of other holes. There are some small school players that are very interesting. 

 

I thought we might go this route. I prefer it. I was never high on Spence or skinny Floyd.  I liked Calhoun or Jenkins in the 3rd. Jenkins was my pick in every mock but he's more of an edge setter with pass rush ability.  Calhoun was gone. I thought he could be a steal. 

 

I would expect we look for a DL that can help with the pass rush and at least one guy we can develop as an edge rusher. I'd love to get  Perkins. He has the kind of athlete you want. Let him learn from Mathis. Judon Holmes and Ochi are  guys I'd take.

 

Then there were still big school guys like McAllister and Nicolias who could come in as pass rush specialist.  The kid from Vandy and Thompson from the Cuse. I think are all there  I didn't watch much after our pick. 

 

 

 

[Mameluc]

why would we want him at G? he has no power, his run block i shis weakness. His strength is his athleticism and feet. Also, it seems scouts love him as T prospect.

 

If anything i think lineup will be

Castonzo mewhort kelly reitz Good/clark and on 2017 he is for sure our RT

[Lawrence Owen]

2 minutes ago, Mameluc said:

why would we want him at G? he has no power, his run block i shis weakness. His strength is his athleticism and feet. Also, it seems scouts love him as T prospect.

 

If anything i think lineup will be

Castonzo mewhort kelly reitz Good/clark and on 2017 he is for sure our RT

http://walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2016lclark.php

Has one of his strengths as his run blocking ability.

[Mameluc]

38 minutes ago, Dustin said:

 

#bpa

is this sarcasm or real comment? honest question

[Mameluc]

2 minutes ago, Lawrence Owen said:

http://walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2016lclark.php

Has one of his strengths as his run blocking ability.

if im wrong im wrong jsut dont see it

 

" Lacks the power as a drive blocker scouts would prefer. He needs to do a better job gaining proper angles as a run blocker and locking out with his punch to control the point of attack instead of simply absorbing rushers into his body. " 

 

This is why i dont like just going to a scouting page...same player different takes

[akcolt]

5 minutes ago, jbaron04 said:

That my point when we made the choice to get Kelly we was not gonna be able to get a good pass rusher,  I love the Kelly pick. Luck is the most important player on this team we still have Robert etc... we need to protect luck so I love the picks next yr we go all in for pass rushers . We can only fix so much at a time so I love that we chose oline 

Who was the good pass rusher you would have taken at 18? I don't think there was a 1-2 round guy there. Calhoun and Jenkins I liked in the 3rd. 

 

I have liked the day 3 small school guys better than the big names Perkins Cowser Ochi and Holmes you can toss  McAllister in there too I know Florida is no small school. I'd rather grab 2 of them in the later rounds.  

[Superman]

56 minutes ago, stitches said:

Seems like great value and seems like he has great physical attributes and athleticism, but from what I've read we might have to wait before he produces for this team.

 

Like 80% of draft picks.

[Lawrence Owen]

Indianapolis Colts: Le'Raven Clark, OT, Texas Tech A- Grade 
I wonder if someone sat Ryan Grigson down and explained to him how important it was to protect Andrew Luck. Grigson had shown a complete disregard toward bolstering Luck's protection prior to the 2016 NFL Draft, but he has obviously changed his strategy. It's obviously for the best though, as Luck will surely like this pick. Le'Raven Clark could've been chosen at the end of the second round, making this a nice value choice. 
Walter football.

 

(Also of not..their lowest grade for a colts pick thus far was Ryan Kelly...a B+)

[Steamboat_Shaun]

2 hours ago, MTC said:

Where's our pass rush though?

Not gonna lie, I wanted them to trade up in the 2nd... instead they traded back. Oh well, got an extra pick, we'll see what happens.

[Steamboat_Shaun]

47 minutes ago, Superman said:

 

Like 80% of draft picks.

Like literally, 80% of ALL draft picks.

[Jules]

Forget the details, he can play o line. The more o lineman we draft the better Luck's chances of surviving 2016 become.

[Dustin]

1 hour ago, Mameluc said:

is this sarcasm or real comment? honest question

 

Sarcasm. Hard to take Grigson and his BPA mantra seriously when he talks about targeting players for months on end.

[Surge89]

1 hour ago, Mameluc said:

why would we want him at G? he has no power, his run block i shis weakness. His strength is his athleticism and feet. Also, it seems scouts love him as T prospect.

 

If anything i think lineup will be

Castonzo mewhort kelly reitz Good/clark and on 2017 he is for sure our RT

 

I do think he needs more strength but I feel like at guard he can get by with Kelly there. 

 

He may need till 2018 to take a tackle spot but he has all the tools and even at guard or pass blocking is going to improve tremendously. 

[Mameluc]

14 minutes ago, Dustin said:

 

Sarcasm. Hard to take Grigson and his BPA mantra seriously when he talks about targeting players for months on end.

was talking to a friend about that just now. He says BPA but then says he has been targetting a dude since dec. Does not add up

[Mameluc]

12 minutes ago, Surge89 said:

 

I do think he needs more strength but I feel like at guard he can get by with Kelly there. 

 

He may need till 2018 to take a tackle spot but he has all the tools and even at guard or pass blocking is going to improve tremendously. 

lets just hope

[Architects08]

Kelly and Clark will solidify the Oline for years to come. I'm excited that Luck can have some continuity from a young talented group. 

 

Would I have liked to add a stud pass rusher? Hell yeah, but keeping #12 healthy is and always will be number 1 priority.

 

Go hard at pass rushers next year and take a RB in a deep talented draft. That monster Pags and Grigson talk about all the time could make an appearance.

[AZColt11]

Some people will never be satisfied with whatever they do.  If they woulda picked a DE, LB, and S then people woulda cried that they still can't protect Luck.  There are only so many picks and so many holes you can fill at once.  Sure, I would like to have had a top-tier pass-rusher already in the fold but I applaud the steps they have taken so far.  Luck has to be protected and they are taking steps to ensure that.  There are still several picks left plus UFA's to go.  Let's see what happens.

[BOTT]

3 hours ago, ColtStrong said:

What do you expect from foolish GM wannabe's? That's why there's very few people's opinion on here I respect. People think they know more than a team of scouts whose job is to analyze players many months of the year. 

[BOTT]

3 hours ago, ColtStrong said:

What do you expect from foolish GM wannabe's? That's why there's very few people's opinion on here I respect. People think they know more than a team of scouts whose job is to analyze players many months of the year. 

Judging from draft and free agency results there shouldn't be many GMs you respect.

[BLUEx40]

nfl.com had him graded out better than decker its kind of funny too that before the 2nd round started today isaid we should take this guy with our second round pick to soldify our o line and we stole him in the third epic IMO

 

[zibby43]

"Le'Raven Clark had a 93.7% run block success rate, 5th-best among OTs in the NFL Draft."

 

- PFF

 

 

[Hoosierdome93]

Depth in the OL is always a good thing. Welcome to the great #Coltsnation Clark.

[Hoosierdome93]

1 hour ago, AZColt11 said:

Some people will never be satisfied with whatever they do.  If they woulda picked a DE, LB, and S then people woulda cried that they still can't protect Luck.  There are only so many picks and so many holes you can fill at once.  Sure, I would like to have had a top-tier pass-rusher already in the fold but I applaud the steps they have taken so far.  Luck has to be protected and they are taking steps to ensure that.  There are still several picks left plus UFA's to go.  Let's see what happens.

These are the picks we were all crying for last year. OL was top priority. No doubts about that

[Hoosierdome93]

4 hours ago, GoColts8818 said:

Mathis and Cole for another year and then hit OLBer hard.

Yeah I don't see needing to draft any DL line guys this year. Get one more good OL guy if a good one is available and trade the rest of our picks for better picks next year. Our D secondary is Strong. OL getting the attention it has needed. We can pick interior D from free agency. Pick interior D in draft next year

[Chucklez]

5 hours ago, jbaron04 said:

Needs like ?

Pass rush

[csmopar]

6 hours ago, CantBeStopped said:

People wanted billings at 18. After 3 rounds he still is on the board

 

 

I find that interesting as well.  There's a reason for his drop, but I dont know what that is.  If he survives the 4th round, i'd say its something major.

 

 

Now, for all you whining and crying about taking a pash rusher, yes it is a need, however, every single talking guru, expert, gm, player interview I've head since January has said that outside of the 3 or 4 players taken in the 1st round, there is no instant impact player with pash rush skills and that next years draft was looking to be plentiful in pass rushers. So my guess is that they dont feel anyone on the board brings that to the table and i'd agree.

 

So my guess is we run with what we have, go full D next year.   

 

However, we dont truly know what we have at pass rush.  Greg Manusky's number one criticism in this league has been how vanilla his schemes, particularly his blitz packages have been.  That was his downfall in San Diego and again in Indy.  With a new D Coordinator, an aging, but hopefully fully healthy Mathis, and Anderson back, who lets face it, was our pass rush before he got hurt, we truly dont know.  Him, Parry, Langford will be very good this year I think.

[csmopar]

6 hours ago, Mameluc said:

why would we want him at G? he has no power, his run block is his weakness. His strength is his athleticism and feet. Also, it seems scouts love him as T prospect.

 

If anything i think lineup will be

Castonzo mewhort kelly reitz Good/clark and on 2017 he is for sure our RT

 

This statement here shows you have NO clue what you're talking about.
 

Example 1:

 

6 hours ago, Lawrence Owen said:

http://walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2016lclark.php

Has one of his strengths as his run blocking ability.

 

Strengths:

Excellent athlete

Good quickness on the edge

Agility

Quick feet

Good quickness on the edge

Ideal length; great size for a left tackle

Extremely long arms (36.25 inches)

Fast to the second level

Good height

Built well

Big hands (10.88 inches)

Strength to sustain

Has run-blocking ability

Scheme flexibility

Superb fit in a zone-blocking scheme

Huge upside

 

Read more at http://walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2016lclark.php#p1JDZKBtwfxV6EkG.99

 

Example 2:

With long arms and good athleticism, it was a lock that position coaches would be more excited about Clark than some of the area scouts might have been. This coach brings up a really good point about collegiate offensive linemen for up-tempo offenses. Many tackles in these schemes require top-notch conditioning over top-notch technique. Coaches want to see athletic traits and ability -- they assume they can fix the technical issues. I've had Clark as a first-round tackle since we started the mock-draft process in January and that won't change for me.

 

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000651334/article/nfc-rbs-coach-cant-envision-derrick-henry-going-in-round-1

 

Example 3: 

 

STRENGTHS

 Possesses good thickness through his rear and thighs helping him drop and anchor. Plays with outstanding foot quickness in his pass sets. Able to mirror head­-faking pass rushers like a cornerback with ability to shift weight and change directions seamlessly. Uses choppy, controlled slides in pass sets instead of long, protracted kick-­slides. Able to shut down darting inside moves with relative ease. Blessed with exceptionally long arms. Uses length and excellent timing to get hands on edge rushers quickly disrupting their game­plan. Has athleticism to effectively recover and fight back when he gets beaten. When he gets hands on defender and locks out, it is over. Has impressive sink steps inside to wall of B­-gap against twists and the backside in running game. Does adequate job of sustaining blocks. Plus lateral quickness off the snap. Can reach and seal the edge in run game. Accelerates into angle blocks, runs his feet and washes defender down. As base blocker, has ability to strike, turn and pin defensive ends on off­-tackle runs his way. Instinctive and proactive against twists.

 

 

 

 

 

Check yourself before you wreck yourself.

[Mr. Irrelevant]

8 minutes ago, csmopar said:

 

This statement here shows you have NO clue what you're talking about.
 

Example 1:

 

 

Strengths:

Excellent athlete

Good quickness on the edge

Agility

Quick feet

Good quickness on the edge

Ideal length; great size for a left tackle

Extremely long arms (36.25 inches)

Fast to the second level

Good height

Built well

Big hands (10.88 inches)

Strength to sustain

Has run-blocking ability

Scheme flexibility

Superb fit in a zone-blocking scheme

Huge upside

 

Read more at http://walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2016lclark.php#p1JDZKBtwfxV6EkG.99

 

Example 2:

With long arms and good athleticism, it was a lock that position coaches would be more excited about Clark than some of the area scouts might have been. This coach brings up a really good point about collegiate offensive linemen for up-tempo offenses. Many tackles in these schemes require top-notch conditioning over top-notch technique. Coaches want to see athletic traits and ability -- they assume they can fix the technical issues. I've had Clark as a first-round tackle since we started the mock-draft process in January and that won't change for me.

 

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000651334/article/nfc-rbs-coach-cant-envision-derrick-henry-going-in-round-1

 

Example 3: 

 

STRENGTHS

 Possesses good thickness through his rear and thighs helping him drop and anchor. Plays with outstanding foot quickness in his pass sets. Able to mirror head­-faking pass rushers like a cornerback with ability to shift weight and change directions seamlessly. Uses choppy, controlled slides in pass sets instead of long, protracted kick-­slides. Able to shut down darting inside moves with relative ease. Blessed with exceptionally long arms. Uses length and excellent timing to get hands on edge rushers quickly disrupting their game­plan. Has athleticism to effectively recover and fight back when he gets beaten. When he gets hands on defender and locks out, it is over. Has impressive sink steps inside to wall of B­-gap against twists and the backside in running game. Does adequate job of sustaining blocks. Plus lateral quickness off the snap. Can reach and seal the edge in run game. Accelerates into angle blocks, runs his feet and washes defender down. As base blocker, has ability to strike, turn and pin defensive ends on off­-tackle runs his way. Instinctive and proactive against twists.

 

 

 

 

 

Check yourself before you wreck yourself.

Wow, you just sold me on this player! 

[csmopar]

17 minutes ago, Mr Clueless said:

Wow, you just sold me on this player! 

I sold myself too ...was skeptical at first, not no more.  

[indyagent17]

9 hours ago, Lawrence Owen said:

Press confrence said both these guys were the guys they wanted to start the day in RD2, and yet they were able to trade bk, gain 2 picks, and still get both of whom they wanted.  

Every team says this after the fact, but its still comical to hear a team say that

[indyagent17]

By the way, the grades for these players so far

 

Kelly 5.87

Green 5.64

Clark 6.05

There were lots of players in the 7's and 6's in the first few rounds but instead of Grigson taking the best available player he took Kelly 

[ColtsBlueFL]

10 hours ago, BlueCollarColts said:

Instant starter?

 

No, but given his ceiling, it won't be long before he is. 

I think Philbin has great plans for him.  Maybe our (near) future RT.

[dw49]

As far as the 18 bench press reps. A little of that can be attributed to 351/2 inch arms. Guys with shorter arms have advantage here.