Broncos just showed why Colts have to draft all Defense in draft...

[jshipp23]

Other than RB, hopefully Ezekiel Elliott we gotta go all D...I'd prefer Procise in 3rd at RB, Emmanuel Ogbah in 1st, Shawn Oakman in 2nd...Sign Mack in FA for oline, and a cb Shawn Smith or even Honey Badger for Safety and hope djohn Smith is ready,  and keep Toler too..With a pass rush our CB-s will look a lot better...Draft another ILB and CB in later rounds...Super Bowl bound next year...I'm happy with Goode at RT...

[NewColtsFan]

 

All defense except for one pick,  a 2nd or a 3rd to be used on an offensive lineman.

 

As for the 7th round pick,  perhaps a running back?

 

But the 1,  the 2 or 3,  the 4 and the 5 can all be for defense.

 

[jshipp23]

I'd at least draft Proscise in 3rd or 4th...All we.really need.is a.center and cb maybe a guard which can all be done thru free agency...If we can Mack at center,  and Scwartz at guard and Sean Smith if free agency we will be the favorites next yr....We will have a top 5 line.. We need Ogbah in first, Oakman in second,  combine them with Mathis we will have a scary pass rush with will help our corners and safety-s tremendously. ...

[jshipp23]

14 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said:

 

All defense except for one pick,  a 2nd or a 3rd to be used on an offensive lineman.

 

As for the 7th round pick,  perhaps a running back?

 

But the 1,  the 2 or 3,  the 4 and the 5 can all be for defense.

 

 

[MPStack]

It`s going to take more than one draft to fix the Colts defense. There are serious holes on offense as well. If the Colts don`t sign any free-agents, then I would not be for this suggestion of an all defensive draft. No WR please!  

[Defjamz26]

They need to use 2 picks on a RB and offensive lineman because like another poster said, one draft isn't going to fix the Colts defense.

[jshipp23]

41 minutes ago, Defjamz26 said:

They need to use 2 picks on a RB and offensive lineman because like another poster said, one draft isn't going to fix the Colts defense.

Our defense isn't far away a healthy Henry Anderson and Art Jones and rush lb's in first 2 rds...

[Wesk7]

If the best player available is a defensive player at a position we need I'm for it. But we shouldn't reach for players or positions and try to force something. If you want to do a mock draft than post one. The Broncos showed what a great defense can do when they are hot. But we've seen what can happen when an o line can't protect their franchise qb and he misses half a season.

[Defjamz26]

44 minutes ago, jshipp23 said:

Our defense isn't far away a healthy Henry Anderson and Art Jones and rush lb's in first 2 rds...

We also need ILBs. Jax and Freeman are old and can't cover. Nate Irving will probably get cut.The Colts D needs

 

-A young FS to replace Adams when he retires

-2 ILBs (at least 1 needs to be able to cover)

-2 Rush OLBs

-A few CBs because we need depth

-A young DE because Langford isn't young

-Possibly a NT depending on how you feel about Parry

 

That's at least 8+ players. But the key is that's the D needs youth.

[jshipp23]

4 minutes ago, Defjamz26 said:

We also need ILBs. Jax and Freeman are old and can't cover. Nate Irving will probably get cut.The Colts D needs

 

-A young FS to replace Adams when he retires

-2 ILBs (at least 1 needs to be able to cover)

-2 Rush OLBs

-A few CBs because we need depth

-A young DE because Langford isn't young

-Possibly a NT depending on how you feel about Parry

 

That's at least 8+ players. But the key is that's the D needs youth.

Sign Tyronn Matthew or Eric Berry, Adams has another good yr and Geathers is us b a monster next yr..

[MPStack]

1 minute ago, Defjamz26 said:

We also need ILBs. Jax and Freeman are old and can't cover. Nate Irving will probably get cut.The Colts D needs

 

-A young FS to replace Adams when he retires

-2 ILBs (at least 1 needs to be able to cover)

-2 Rush OLBs

-A few CBs because we need depth

-A young DE because Langford isn't young

-Possibly a NT depending on how you feel about Parry

 

That's at least 8+ players. But the key is that's the D needs youth.

Nice post and puts things into proper perspective on how bad the Colts defense is. V. Davis and a healthy H. Anderson are the only difference makers long term on this team. I like Geathers, but to early to say how he progresses. Parry is a good backup, but does not demand double teams like say a V. Wilfork type NT. The Colts need more than Freeman can do on the field.

[Defjamz26]

25 minutes ago, jshipp23 said:

Sign Tyronn Matthew or Eric Berry, Adams has another good yr and Geathers is us b a monster next yr..

Mathieu isn't leaving the Cards and neither is Berry. The young FA pool is very shallow. It won't be as simple as signing a top guy or two and then just drafting good this year.

 

The Colts will likely be behind the curve until after the 2017 draft at the earliest. It took the Broncos roughly 5 or so years to build the defense they have. If you look at how our best drafted defensive player came from the 2015 draft, we're basically still in the infancy stages of building our D.

[jshipp23]

I wouldn't say that,  they looked great at times before all the injuries. ..We need two rush LB's in first 2 rds, Ogbah in 1st, Oakman  in 2nd,  Oakman actually could play all positions on the line and replace Walden as the edge setter day 1..

[Surge89]

36 minutes ago, Defjamz26 said:

We also need ILBs. Jax and Freeman are old and can't cover. Nate Irving will probably get cut.The Colts D needs

 

-A young FS to replace Adams when he retires

-2 ILBs (at least 1 needs to be able to cover)

-2 Rush OLBs

-A few CBs because we need depth

-A young DE because Langford isn't young

-Possibly a NT depending on how you feel about Parry

 

That's at least 8+ players. But the key is that's the D needs youth.

 

The young FS would be a draftee

 

Sio can fill one of the spots and why do you think Irving is cut? Just curious

 

We need one rush OLB. We have edge setters and an aged specialist in Mathis. We will be fine with just one and draft a Mathis replacement in a year or two. 

 

We need one corner... and there's a ton of options for us this year to get that one corner and to see how smith does. 

 

We do need a DE but we don't need a starter. We need a rotation guy. 

 

We need Andrew billings :-) I think that one pick would make a lot of people on this defense look better :-)

[Track Guy]

No they didn't.

 

Just because you draft a defensive player doesn't mean he's gonna be Vonn Miller. 

 

Draft smart. We have a serious need at pass rusher. But we also need an O-line if we're ever going to compete with these teams who do have a big time pass rush. But above all we need the players we draft to be good players.

[OffensivelyPC]

This not what Bronco proves at all.  We am to get better with defense, but no reason to draft all defense.  Have needs on offense, too.

[Jason_]

3 hours ago, jshipp23 said:

Sign Tyronn Matthew or Eric Berry, Adams has another good yr and Geathers is us b a monster next yr..

 

Mathieu is under contract for next year.  He doesn't become a FA until 2017.  As for Berry, we'll have to wait and see if he even hits the open market.

[Superman]

When did the Broncos draft all defense?

[RollerColt]

2 hours ago, Bizarro Superman said:

This not what Bronco proves at all.  We am to get better with defense, but no reason to draft all defense.  Have needs on offense, too.

Welcome to the forum!

[OffensivelyPC]

2 hours ago, Superman said:

When did the Broncos draft all defense?

If you take last 4 years, you can find find defense in each of 7 rounds. Boom PROOF!

[Gavin]

I seriously dont see whats so complicated about your drafting for talent not positions and that just drafting a position in a high round does not mean that said player is worth that 1st round pick, Your drafting for talent people not positions

[weslo1812]

6 hours ago, Surge89 said:

 

The young FS would be a draftee

 

Sio can fill one of the spots and why do you think Irving is cut? Just curious

 

We need one rush OLB. We have edge setters and an aged specialist in Mathis. We will be fine with just one and draft a Mathis replacement in a year or two. 

 

We need one corner... and there's a ton of options for us this year to get that one corner and to see how smith does. 

 

We do need a DE but we don't need a starter. We need a rotation guy. 

 

We need Andrew billings :-) I think that one pick would make a lot of people on this defense look better :-)

You have Billings Anderson and Langford as the starters and Parry, McGuill and Winn as the second group or if we draft another DE, maybe he works way in. I personally at DE woukd love to get Chris Jones!!! That is a very Solid D line rotation.

[Superman]

22 minutes ago, Bizarro Superman said:

If you take last 4 years, you can find find defense in each of 7 rounds. Boom PROOF!

 

I feel like you and I are supposed to disagree, but it's not working out that way so far.

[Surge89]

2 minutes ago, Superman said:

 

I feel like you and I are supposed to disagree, but it's not working out that way so far.

 

lol...

[Surge89]

22 minutes ago, weslo1812 said:

You have Billings Anderson and Langford as the starters and Parry, McGuill and Winn as the second group or if we draft another DE, maybe he works way in. I personally at DE woukd love to get Chris Jones!!! That is a very Solid D line rotation.

 

Your first group yes :-)

 

I think that would be an amazing rotation!

 

I like Jones so I can warm up that as well. 

[OffensivelyPC]

12 minutes ago, Superman said:

 

I feel like you and I are supposed to disagree, but it's not working out that way so far.

Even Bizarro and Superman were allies on occasion (if they do actually agree on the overall objective, they often disagreed on how to achieve it). Unfortunately, I can't have too fractured of a logic, I actually have to be understood.

 

Laugh out loud.

[MasterCrief]

4 hours ago, Jason_S said:

 

Mathieu is under contract for next year.  He doesn't become a FA until 2017.  As for Berry, we'll have to wait and see if he even hits the open market.

I was just about to say this. And after what Berry went through in the last year+, I'd put the odds that he hits the open market somewhere under 1%. You've got to think that he's going to be the Chiefs #1 priority this offseason.

[Superman]

1 minute ago, MasterCrief said:

I was just about to say this. And after what Berry went through in the last year+, I'd put the odds that he hits the open market somewhere under 1%. You've got to think that he's going to be the Chiefs #1 priority this offseason.

 

They're already negotiating his deal. I don't think he leaves KC.

[MasterCrief]

8 hours ago, Defjamz26 said:

We also need ILBs. Jax and Freeman are old and can't cover. Nate Irving will probably get cut.The Colts D needs

 

-A young FS to replace Adams when he retires

-2 ILBs (at least 1 needs to be able to cover)

-2 Rush OLBs

-A few CBs because we need depth

-A young DE because Langford isn't young

-Possibly a NT depending on how you feel about Parry

 

That's at least 8+ players. But the key is that's the D needs youth.

I'd like to see what Sio Moore (and Nate Irving if we keep him going into next season) is capable of before committing to needing two ILBs, but I agree with everything else.

[BProland85]

I think without question the Colts need help and youth at LB. I'm starting to get on board with picking Noah Spence round 1 maybe after a trade down first. But if Jaylon Smith is there, I really want him.

[BProland85]

This upcoming draft is one that needs to be a homerun for the Colts. Especially with it being as deep defensively as it is. Indy must come out with a ILB, OLB, DT in this draft and possibly also a FS and RT. CB can be found in free agency ala Trumaine Johnson, Janoris Jenkins, Sean Smith, Casey Hayward.

[loudnproudcolt]

Jaylon Smith if there in the first, otherwise I have no problem with an OL. the problem in the first is after Smith, unless we go with a CB or FS, I think OL is the best choice. I am really hoping Smith drops, and in the 2nd we can find a FS. I doubt Joseph will be there, but possibly Cravens or Kearse. I love Cash but he is more of a SS type, and we have Gaithers now, who I think will be good. I agree fully on the them of draft defense. The only caveat is:

we need to sign a quality center and quality guard, and I do mean quality, Mack and Boone would be nice. Would love Osemele, but Boone will be cheaper I believe if he leaves SF who has a ton of cap space. I would also like a CB, but if we go quality, don't know if there will be money. If there is, heyward, jenkins, or johnson would be my picks. The important thing though, don't gamble on players and hope in FA, so it will free us up for defense in the draft!

[gacoop1]

Just watch Grigson blow this draft up again.  The man doesn't have a clue how to build a defense, drafting players that don't fit the scheme of things.....Let's face it, as long as Grisgson's at the helm, Colts will never get to the Big Dance....

[gacoop1]

Defense win championships.  Just ask Manning who had the lowest production of a Superbowl winning quarterback ever...

[Defjamz26]

Unless they really value Elliot like that, I'm convinced the 1st round pick will be defense. I know analysts keep mocking offensive tackles to us but I don't see it.

 

You don't draft for need but I don't think Grigson deciding to go with the BPA on defense would be a terrible idea. Matt Miller pointed out in his latest draft that while the O-Line could use some work, the D is the bigger area of need (he mocked Shaq Lawson to us if you're wondering). And that's a reasonable take away.

 

Billings is a powerful NT, if he's there we could take him. Lawson and Floyd are explosive pass rushers who would fit our D, we could take either of them at 18. Buckner is a plug and play 3-4 DE who is a monster and would be an easy pick at 18.

 

So while the Colts don't have to go defense with every pick, they could easily get a game wrecker early on.

[UKColt13]

I absolutely agree we need to go defense heavy in the draft.

 

I don't agree we need to spend our first round pick on Zeke Elliot. He's not Todd Gurley and we have bigger fish to fry early on. Give me a 4th round RB and wait for next years bumper crop of RBs to come through. *cough cough* McCaffrey *cough cough*.

 

Sorry, I think I'm coming down with something..

[jskinnz]

9 hours ago, gacoop1 said:

Just watch Grigson blow this draft up again.  The man doesn't have a clue how to build a defense, drafting players that don't fit the scheme of things.....Let's face it, as long as Grisgson's at the helm, Colts will never get to the Big Dance....

 

Can I ask a question - I see the same sentiment from you in virtually all your posts.  Do you bother to type out each response or do you just copy & paste the same answer?

[krunk]

10 hours ago, gacoop1 said:

Just watch Grigson blow this draft up again.  The man doesn't have a clue how to build a defense, drafting players that don't fit the scheme of things.....Let's face it, as long as Grisgson's at the helm, Colts will never get to the Big Dance....

100% Garbage

[BrentMc11]

18 hours ago, Superman said:

 

They're already negotiating his deal. I don't think he leaves KC.

Comeback player of the Year....KC loves Berry for much more than playing football.

[Superman]

3 hours ago, UKColt13 said:

wait for next years bumper crop of RBs to come through. *cough cough* McCaffrey *cough cough*.

 

Oh goodness, I don't know how I'll feel about McCaffrey next year. He's sooooo good, and I would love for him to be a Colt, but I don't think I can justify seeing a first rounder used on him (and if he were in the draft right now, he'd be a first rounder, IMO). He would be a multiple position player, not just a RB, but still...