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Grigson got bodied. Hopefully he retires out of embaresment.

don't talk about him like that he's a good GM and has tried really hard to fix this team and the O line. we have had 3 straight 11-5 seasons did you know that?? He also got the team out of cap hell and is the savior of us!! :sarcasm:

Did I forget any excuses?

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But I thought Grigson said they don't sign guys from "Whatsamatta U" and their talent evaluators work their tails off finding guys? 

 

I think Grigsy has shot himself in the foot with a lot of these snide comments from his radio time and will be eating crow before too long if he can't get this situation turned around.

 

I am so sick of this O-line issue... it's all we hear about year in and year out and nothing gets done.  Yeah, sure, they sign people but they're either washed up or horrible to begin with...

 

Satele: HORRIBLE

McGlynn: HORRIBLE (at guard.  Decent at Center, but of course they didn't play him there)

Louis: HORRIBLE

Herremans: HORRIBLE (Benched after 2 games)

Shipley: Bad at guard but pretty good at Center... benched to start the next guy...

Harrisson: HORRIBLE (but he has a great "ceiling" so lets play him anyways)

Thornton: Meh.  Injury prone.  Penalty machine.

Holmes: Serviceable Center this year... time will tell.

Cherilus: Good in 2012, steadily declined.

Thomas: Played 2 games...

Also signed a center from Dallas who retired before he even played a snap for the Colts...

 

That is a lot of misses on O-line.

 

Who do we have that's actually decent on the O-line:

 

Castanzo: Not one of Grigson's picks.

Mewhort: Still learning but seems to be solid.

Retiz: Not one of Grigson's picks, has injury issues but has turned into a serviceable option at RT and LG.

 

To me, if I am Irsay I look at this list and tell Grigson to either A: find someone else to evaluate O-line talent or B: pack up his office after the season is over.

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lol...did some of you listen to his words?

 

he said in reference to the watching film and vomiting....its a LEAGUE WIDE occurrence this year.

 

so while yes the Colts OLine is..."bad" lol....only his first remarks where specific to the Colts... but when he transitions to speak on the CBA and OTA, and throwing up....he specifically calls it "LEAGUE WIDE"

 

lol, but still, haters guna hate!! lol....and I still love them for it

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Wow 12 years of playing and 15 years as an analyst and it's the worst O line play he's ever seen. Thanks Grigson! Glad you didn't think Incognito was a "horseshoe guy"!

 

Honestly, I wasn't keen on Incognito neither. Now? I'd give one arm to get him.

 

Anyway there's some talent on our O-line, but that's far from enough. 

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While Grigson has certainly failed with the O Line Schlereth fails to acknowledge 1 thing and give his opinion on another

 

1.Khaled Holmes 5 starts, Hugh Thornton 21 starts, Mewhort 17 starts, That's 3/5ths of our O Line with less then three years of starting combined experience. As to Herremans, Louis and many of Grigsons other O Line pickups, I agree...horrible

 

2.He is naming off several things the Colts O Line has done wrong ....which of course he is right much of the time BUT....How about breaking down examples on film and stating what can be done to correct it...I mean he is a form Guard

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http://gph.is/1e1Z21a

 

I dunno how to post gifs here but whatever...

Same way as posting a picture.

 

Wow, Schlerth.  Our OL is bad, but it's not the worst in the last 15 years.  As for the Dorsett comment, I mentioned this in another thread.  There weren't any good OL prospects available to us at 29 that would have made sense.  The top OL prospects taken after 29 would have been reaches if we took them at 29

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O-line...O-line... What does it mean O-line? /sarcasm/

 

-Dad, what's an O-line?

-I don't know son, we're Colts' fans.

I burst out loud with laughter when I read that line I can't lie HCF. Keep saying what your saying Mark Schlereth. Perhaps, the message will finally be driven home. If this season is indeed a train wreck, once all the dust settles good things will come from this. 

 

It's like basic training in the military: Tear you down so you can be rebuilt & stronger brick by brick. I have zero problem with what Mark said. 

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Same way as posting a picture.

 

Wow, Schlerth.  Our OL is bad, but it's not the worst in the last 15 years.  As for the Dorsett comment, I mentioned this in another thread.  There weren't any good OL prospects available to us at 29 that would have made sense.  The top OL prospects taken after 29 would have been reaches if we took them at 29

 

 

It wasn't Grigson who said something like O-line wasn't the right place for baptism in fire?

 

We should have signed some decent FA O-linemen. I don't mind picking Dorsett, the kid can play, to say the least.

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THAT OLINE MAAAAN....When people were on here blaming Luck, I was trying to tell them it's not his fault. Now look, u even have analysts keying in on it. Vomit?? That's being nice. This coaching staff hasn't done anything since Arians....injured franchise before he even gets a contract. Sad.

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lol...did some of you listen to his words?

 

he said in reference to the watching film and vomiting....its a LEAGUE WIDE occurrence this year.

 

so while yes the Colts OLine is..."bad" lol....only his first remarks where specific to the Colts... but when he transitions to speak on the CBA and OTA, and throwing up....he specifically calls it "LEAGUE WIDE"

 

lol, but still, haters guna hate!! lol....and I still love them for it

Mark was asked specially what problems he saw regarding INDY's line CS3. His comments are targeted or meant for the Colts & not 31 other teams. The first step to solving a problem is admitting you have one & what your primary weakness is...O-line is our achilles heel & until we solve this enigma we go nowhere as a franchise competing for Lombardi trophies. 

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Of course, the Grigson haters,  the usual suspects,  are so busy hating on Grigson here that they completely missed the most important comment that Schlereth made which came at the end.    No surprise!

 

And that is Schlereth saying that -- league wide -- in the 15 years he's been a commentator for ESPN,  this is the worst offensive line play he's ever seen by far.

 

In other words,  the problem the Colts are having is the same problem most every other team in the NFL is having.   A huge shortage of quality offensive lineman.

 

And we've had a number of threads this week from a variety of NFL people here in the Colts section talking about the exact same thing.    A terrible shortage of quality offensive lineman league wide.     So this is not just a Schlereth point of view,  this is the view of most everyone throughout the NFL.

 

But that's not going to get the Grigson haters to cool their jets....   they've got their target and nothing is going to stop them...

 

Really sad......

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Of course, the Grigson haters,  the usual suspects,  are so busy hating on Grigson here that they completely missed the most important comment that Schlereth made which came at the end.    No surprise!

 

And that is Schlereth saying that -- league wide -- in the 15 years he's been a commentator for ESPN,  this is the worst offensive line play he's ever seen by far.

 

In other words,  the problem the Colts are having is the same problem most every other team in the NFL is having.   A huge shortage of quality offensive lineman.

 

And we've had a number of threads this week from a variety of NFL people here in the Colts section talking about the exact same thing.    A terrible shortage of quality offensive lineman league wide.     So this is not just a Schlereth point of view,  this is the view of most everyone throughout the NFL.

 

But that's not going to get the Grigson haters to cool their jets....   they've got their target and nothing is going to stop them...

 

Really sad......

I seem to recall that Mark Schlereth won 3 SBs as a linemen himself. 2 with the Broncos & 1 with the Redskins so he does possess championship credentials in the very unit we are weakest in. Dallas seemed to accumulate quality linemen over several drafts so it can be done. I can be patient as long as I know glaring voids are being addressed. WR & TE weapons don't mean much if your QB is often hurried or on his back. Also, I don't hate either Pagano or Grigson but they knew our deficiencies from day 1 & they still have done next to nothing to make Luck's life easier not harder. Okay, yes Gore is an asset but what holes have we created for him that weren't called back on numerous holding calls? Not too many NCF.

 

Look at Marvin Lewis's line in Ohio & then look at ours. Enough said...

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By all means the line sucks but luck still is at fault for launching interceptions downfield...only reason the analyst are being so hard and not blaming luck is bc he finally got hurt messing with this line.. but it's 75% line 25% lucks stupid decisions to throw deep and not out of bounds

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Of course, the Grigson haters,  the usual suspects,  are so busy hating on Grigson here that they completely missed the most important comment that Schlereth made which came at the end.    No surprise!

 

And that is Schlereth saying that -- league wide -- in the 15 years he's been a commentator for ESPN,  this is the worst offensive line play he's ever seen by far.

 

In other words,  the problem the Colts are having is the same problem most every other team in the NFL is having.   A huge shortage of quality offensive lineman.

 

And we've had a number of threads this week from a variety of NFL people here in the Colts section talking about the exact same thing.    A terrible shortage of quality offensive lineman league wide.     So this is not just a Schlereth point of view,  this is the view of most everyone throughout the NFL.

 

But that's not going to get the Grigson haters to cool their jets....   they've got their target and nothing is going to stop them...

 

Really sad......

That is EXACTLY what he said.....but the feeding frenzy has to go on with those with a limited attention span?

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How could anybody not blame Grigson for our offensive line? He's signed guys yeah. But basically all of those signings were terrible. He could have gotten better players in FA and he could have drafted better O-Linemen as well. I mean what about Clint Boling this past offseason? Or trading for Ben Grubbs who's still a pretty good guard? Or yes. Signing Incognio, who I may add is tearing it up in Buffalo this year. Imagine our line with Incognito and Grubbs at Guards.

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Of course, the Grigson haters, the usual suspects, are so busy hating on Grigson here that they completely missed the most important comment that Schlereth made which came at the end. No surprise!

And that is Schlereth saying that -- league wide -- in the 15 years he's been a commentator for ESPN, this is the worst offensive line play he's ever seen by far.

In other words, the problem the Colts are having is the same problem most every other team in the NFL is having. A huge shortage of quality offensive lineman.

And we've had a number of threads this week from a variety of NFL people here in the Colts section talking about the exact same thing. A terrible shortage of quality offensive lineman league wide. So this is not just a Schlereth point of view, this is the view of most everyone throughout the NFL.

But that's not going to get the Grigson haters to cool their jets.... they've got their target and nothing is going to stop them...

Really sad......

Whats really sad is that Grigson was given the easiest draft choice in over a decade and has yet to protect his asset. 4 years to get real lineman in here and not gamble on injured players or try andnfind diamonds in the rough. On top of all that, his amazing offense can't even get going because his OC hire is absolutely pitiful.

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