Jury Finds Ex-Colts Player Josh Mcnary Not Guilty On All Counts In Rape Case

[Everyone]

JUST IN: Jury finds ex-Colts player Josh McNary not guilty on all counts in rape case http://t.co/yIaOECCrDP

— CBS4 Indy (@CBS4Indy)

September 3, 2015

[Everyone]

I've never heard of this Ury person either....

[bababooey]

I read the document that was submitted that talked about that night. I wonder what the details of the case were because it sounded bad upon first reading.

Edited September 3, 2015 by 21isSuperman

[Jackie Daytona]

Too bad it cost Josh his job..... he was a good ST and depth player for the Colts....  I know his contract expired, but he had a decent chance of being re-signed if not for all this....

[lollygagger8]

Wow. That woman should be locked up for LIFE. 

[csmopar]

I read the document that was submitted that talked about that night. I wonder what the details of the case were because it sounded bad upon first reading.

Did you read the same document I did?  Because I still have it and I said then and now there were lots of holes in her story.  Especially regarding the other man involved.  And thats, from what I'm reading, is why the jury acquitted McNary......

 

And I don't think he's an ex Colt, I thought he was simply moved to the Commissioners Exempt list like AP was......

[csmopar]

NFL.com still lists hims as Colt

http://www.nfl.com/player/joshmcnary/2541174/profile

 

[our_dbs_rock]

Wow, 11 out of 13 members of the jury were woman.

[Everyone]

NFL.com still lists hims as Colt

http://www.nfl.com/player/joshmcnary/2541174/profile

 

Lance Briggs is still listed as a Bear, they don't update that stuff often..

[chad72]

Wow. That woman should be locked up for LIFE. 

 

I know the spur of the moment warrants such a reaction. But unfortunately, unless you have video proof nowadays, it is hard to get convictions in favor of women. You will have bad apples like these every once in a while but Josh McNary has to follow through and sue her in return, IMO. 

[csmopar]

Lance Briggs is still listed as a Bear, they don't update that stuff often..

No but heres the article where it says the Colts put him on the exempt list, meaning he's still a colt, right? :

http://www.stampedeblue.com/2015/1/15/7552249/josh-mcnary-placed-on-commissioners-exempt-list-griff-whalen-gannon-conway?_ga=1.121554699.2022021849.1441307366

[our_dbs_rock]

No but heres the article where it says the Colts put him on the exempt list, meaning he's still a colt, right? :

http://www.stampedeblue.com/2015/1/15/7552249/josh-mcnary-placed-on-commissioners-exempt-list-griff-whalen-gannon-conway?_ga=1.121554699.2022021849.1441307366

 

His contract expired while he was on the exempt list and he was not resigned

[csmopar]

His contract expired while he was on the exempt list and he was not resigned

 

 

Awesome, that's what I was trying to figure out. Thanks

[HtownColt]

Career ruined from the lies of that woman, that's messed up

[our_dbs_rock]

Career ruined from the lies of that woman, that's messed up

 

Although, poor decisions by McNary played a part.  Nothing good ever happens after midnight.

[krunk]

I think Josh Mcnarys play last season was going to send him out the same door Mwamba is going anyway.  Glad he got his name cleared though.

[CR91]

rape needs to stop being he said she said and find a way to prove rape

[ColtsLegacy]

Did you read the same document I did? Because I still have it and I said then and now there were lots of holes in her story. Especially regarding the other man involved. And thats, from what I'm reading, is why the jury acquitted McNary......

And I don't think he's an ex Colt, I thought he was simply moved to the Commissioners Exempt list like AP was......

Agreed, I read the entire thing as well and it was a mess. I am not surprised by this verdict at all.

[csmopar]

rape needs to stop being he said she said and find a way to prove rape

What do you propose....having to have a signed consent document and a video recording with the both parties agreeing to sex?

[Gabriel Alexander Morillo]

Give that man some sympathy. What nonesense on the part of that horrible woman.

[Superman]

rape needs to stop being he said she said and find a way to prove rape

 

What about when there was no rape?

[Superman]

I hope the jury got that right. If so, glad for McNary to be cleared by trial. 

[csmopar]

I hope the jury got that right. If so, glad for McNary to be cleared by trial.

I think they did. I'm a trained investigator granted by the military, but that report is by far the worst written report I've ever seen. Having done rape investigations, there was a ton of issues I took with that report. Especially with her story and the camera evidence, plus the 3rd male, if I recall right, haven't read it for months, was either an agent or film producer.....

[CR91]

What about when there was no rape?

 

and if there was? I dont know the details of the case, but was there a rape kit done? were there any witnesses in the apartment complex that can tell what the woman behavior was once she left mcnary's apartment? any evidence of physical and or mental trauma? 

[NewColtsFan]

Goodness gracious.

 

No,  the woman does NOT need to be locked up as one poster claims.

 

And no,  there's nothing that says she "lied"....

 

Just because the jury believed his version of events over her version of events does NOT mean the woman lied.

 

And if you lock up every woman who loses a rape case -- guess what? -- you'll never have a woman claiming she was raped every again!  

 

Is that really what you want?

 

Losing a rape case as this woman did does NOT mean she lied.

[ricker182]

First, I doubt this woman was going after McNary for money.

Second, we need not attempt to belittle the accuser UNLESS she admits she lied. The trial is over he was innocent. That's it.

Third, it looks like Belichick got away with another scheme to beat the Colts. Paid this woman to accuse McNary of rape so he wouldn't destroy Brady in the AFCCG.

NICE ONE, BILL.

only kidding about the last part...

[ricker182]

rape needs to stop being he said she said and find a way to prove rape

Are you suggesting taping everything? Or having someone watch?

Those are the only two ways I see where it isn't he said she said.

[dgambill]

rape needs to stop being he said she said and find a way to prove rape

what do u suggested....everyone wear go cams like they want cops to wear or carry along a consent form? Sorry someone else said that. This is one of those horrible situations where there is going to be no good outcome. If it happened that is awful and if it didn't that is terrible too. I suggest in obstaining from all appereances of evil...don't have sex outside marriage/relationship, don't drink to excess, don't hang out in places that people are doing those things and simply trying to live a wholesome moral life will keep you out of a lot of those situations. Horrible situation but I'm sure josh learned a very very very hard truth to protect himself and avoid being in those situations. Sorry this happened but others should take a lesson from it.

[NFLfan]

I know the spur of the moment warrants such a reaction. But unfortunately, unless you have video proof nowadays, it is hard to get convictions in favor of women. You will have bad apples like these every once in a while but Josh McNary has to follow through and sue her in return, IMO.

Why do you think he should sue her? A "not guilty" verdict does not mean that he was proven innocent. The verdict just means that there was not enough evidence to find him guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. If you have any information that proves that she lied about this, please share. Thank you. (I am not singling you out. I could have quoted a number of posters.)

[pacolts56]

what do u suggested....everyone wear go cams like they want cops to wear or carry along a consent form? Sorry someone else said that. This is one of those horrible situations where there is going to be no good outcome. If it happened that is awful and if it didn't that is terrible too. I suggest in obstaining from all appereances of evil...don't have sex outside marriage/relationship, don't drink to excess, don't hang out in places that people are doing those things and simply trying to live a wholesome moral life will keep you out of a lot of those situations. Horrible situation but I'm sure josh learned a very very very hard truth to protect himself and avoid being in those situations. Sorry this happened but others should take a lesson from it.

This. ^^^

 

It would be great if rape could be proven or disproven.

Unfortunately...its been the way it is since Potiphar's wife accused Joseph.

Once consensual sex is established as a possibility....it runs the risk of becoming a "he said she said" situation.

 

Other than men and women avoiding the practices you pointed out, that often set the backdrop of these cases, I don't know what else a person could do.

[CR91]

what do u suggested....everyone wear go cams like they want cops to wear or carry along a consent form? Sorry someone else said that. This is one of those horrible situations where there is going to be no good outcome. If it happened that is awful and if it didn't that is terrible too. I suggest in obstaining from all appereances of evil...don't have sex outside marriage/relationship, don't drink to excess, don't hang out in places that people are doing those things and simply trying to live a wholesome moral life will keep you out of a lot of those situations. Horrible situation but I'm sure josh learned a very very very hard truth to protect himself and avoid being in those situations. Sorry this happened but others should take a lesson from it.

 

unfortunately we dont live in a bubble

[CR91]

Are you suggesting taping everything? Or having someone watch?

Those are the only two ways I see where it isn't he said she said.

 

no do actual police work and stop having them just tell their side of the story

[dgambill]

unfortunately we dont live in a bubble

ive somehow managed to avoid those situations and have lived a wonderful full and happy life....hardly a bubble.

[CR91]

ive somehow managed to avoid those situations and have lived a wonderful full and happy life....hardly a bubble.

 

i applaud you, but temptation isnt easily defeated

[ricker182]

no do actual police work and stop having them just tell their side of the story

They collect evidence.

Not much else they can do besides that.

It's a very gray area.

[CR91]

They collect evidence.

Not much else they can do besides that.

It's a very gray area.

When you have 50 cases on your desk, how much of a thorough investigation are you gonna do especially when it's not a high profile case

[NFLfan]

ive somehow managed to avoid those situations and have lived a wonderful full and happy life....hardly a bubble.

You're a smart guy and happily married. That helps.

I agree with you. It is not that difficult to avoid those situations. It takes discipline and good judgment. Hopefully both these individuals involved have learned their lesson. There are no winners here.

[csmopar]

and if there was? I dont know the details of the case, but was there a rape kit done? were there any witnesses in the apartment complex that can tell what the woman behavior was once she left mcnary's apartment? any evidence of physical and or mental trauma?

You need to download the public police report, read all of it. 20 plus pages. Tons of holes in the woman's story. There's camera evidence from the hallways showing her all over him. Not defending McNary but a report with that many holes isn't gonna hold up well in court. Not very often.

[csmopar]

When you have 50 cases on your desk, how much of a thorough investigation are you gonna do especially when it's not a high profile case

Actually in most law enforcement agencies, the list of high priority goes Murder, Rape, Kidnapping. Depending on the agency, some have dedicated detectives who handle nothing but rape cases.....IMPD is one on of those.

[chad72]

Why do you think he should sue her? A "not guilty" verdict does not mean that he was proven innocent. The verdict just means that there was not enough evidence to find him guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. If you have any information that proves that she lied about this, please share. Thank you. (I am not singling you out. I could have quoted a number of posters.)

If McNary feels she caused him monetary damages, then he can sue her on civil grounds, I guess. Innocent till proven guilty - so going by that, he's innocent.

However, it's a difficult situation that he could've avoided, in hindsight.