RockThatBlue Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 A couple of questions.Could Dorsett win the 3rd WR spot?Will there probably be a rotation at the 3rd WR spot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Debonair Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Moncrief and Dorsett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12dalegend Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 I hope Dorsett makes it we a speedy slot wr in case TY or AJ get stuck on an island itʻll leave single coverage on him or Fleener/Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudeski Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Rotation of Dorsett and moncrief Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buck Showalter Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 I assume some of the Colts wide receivers will get snaps at some point throughout the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealityIsLuck Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 I'm gonna say it'll be Moncrief, but they'll play about an equal amount of snaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funktacious2 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 According to Madden he doesn't even make the team... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewColtsFan Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 A couple of questions.Could Dorsett win the 3rd WR spot?Will there probably be a rotation at the 3rd WR spot? Yes, Dorsett could win the 3rd WR spot. Yes, there could be a rotation at the 3rd WR spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedBlu8792 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 I think they are giving Moncrief the opportunity to prove himself as the #3, but as much as Dorsett has shown us in such little time, he's already ahead of Moncrief in my opinion. I like Moncrief but even right now I don't believe he's as polished as Dorsett is. Dorsett will end up being the #3 within the first 5 weeks or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Danger Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 I think it will be a rotation, with Moncrief getting the majority of the snaps. I understand the appeal of Dorsett and T.Y. on the field at the same time, but Moncrief is a burner as well... Not to mention the facts that he's a size mismatch for most corners, can jump like a gazelle, and has a full year in with the playbook and QB... I might be higher on him than most, but I think that Moncrief has serious #1 potential. His ceiling is arguably higher than any receiver on the roster (excluding AJ in his prime). That isn't to say that Dorsett couldn't develop into a T.Y./ Antonio Brown type of talent. I just don't think that he will get the snaps. We have seen how the staff likes to ease rookie receivers into the mix. Happened with T.Y.. Happened with Moncrief last year and neither of the players in front of them were as good as Moncrief will be this year.. Dorsett will get spot duty and return kicks unless somebody gets hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Danger Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 I think it will be a rotation, with Moncrief getting the majority of the snaps. I understand the appeal of Dorsett and T.Y. on the field at the same time, but Moncrief is a burner as well... Not to mention the facts that he's a size mismatch for most corners, can jump like a gazelle, and has a full year in with the playbook and QB... I might be higher on him than most, but I think that Moncrief has serious #1 potential. His ceiling is arguably higher than any receiver on the roster (excluding AJ in his prime). That isn't to say that Dorsett couldn't develop into a T.Y./ Antonio Brown type of talent. I just don't think that he will get the snaps this year. We have seen how the staff likes to ease rookie receivers into the mix. Happened with T.Y.. Happened with Moncrief last year and neither of the players in front of them were as good as Moncrief will be this year.. Dorsett will get spot duty and return kicks unless somebody gets hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoshinator Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 I'm gonna say it'll be Moncrief, but they'll play about an equal amount of snaps.I was actually going to say Dorsett, but they'll play an equal amount of snaps. The reason they drafted Dorsett was to create mismatches and force the Defense to pick between Hilton and Dorsett and burn you with the other one. While Dorsett won't get all the snaps, I believe he starts and gets the first chance to dominate with Hilton like Grigson wanted. I can back this up by how high Grigson had Dorsett rated in the draft and how well he has done in training camp and preseason up to this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoshinator Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Hey guys, I may of missed an obvious post the last couple days on this, but is it 100% guaranteed that Dorsett plays on Saturday? I know he had a knee bruise. If he does play and has a big game (75 yards, 5 catches or more, a TD) gets two of these 3 stats, I believe he will be named the starter over Moncrief in week 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence Owen Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 It will be situational. If the Corner is bigger, more aggresive, Dorsett will play more.If he is smaller, faster type, then Montcrief will have the majority of the snaps.Pep talks about finding mismatches and taking advantage of them With both those guys, we have a mismatching dream.Fully expect 1 guy to play alot one week then the other having a big day a different week.It's not about who deserves it more, it's about winning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrentMc11 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 I am ready for Moncrief, Dorsett and TY Hilton at the same time, with Gore split out as well...with Fleener an option. Rotate, rotate, rotate. Keep these guys running hard and keep them fresh!!! Can you tell the old LB is getting excited for some Colts football? !!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhane19 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 According to Madden he doesn't even make the team... Dorsett doesn't? Don't 1st rounders automatically get placed in the 70s to 80s range? I haven' played a Madden game in about 8 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grigs build the lines plz. Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 I originally thought that Moncrief would be the guy starting this year with his experience, butDorsett can really get separation from defenders. His only downfall is his durability and protecting the ball after catching it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattceinicram Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 I think Moncreif will be the number 3 to start the season. Dorsett will eventually move up in the depth chart though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron11 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 According to Madden he doesn't even make the team...?????? dorsett is in there, im not sure where you got that unless it was some kind of joke http://horseshoeheroes.com/2015/08/25/indianapolis-colts-rated-87-overall-in-madden-16/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron11 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Don't 1st rounders automatically get placed in the 70s to 80s range? pretty much, yes. sometimes its a little annoying too, when the rookies are clearly better than that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indyagent17 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 we have used 4 recievers in nearly every game we have played. They have to rotate in to give rest and for certain sets and mismatches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funktacious2 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 ?????? dorsett is in there, im not sure where you got that unless it was some kind of jokehttp://horseshoeheroes.com/2015/08/25/indianapolis-colts-rated-87-overall-in-madden-16/ Not sure if it's just an issue with me, but I can only get him and Robinson if I include the preseason in my franchise and don't select the option advance to the preseason from the get go. If I do advance, Tyler Varga makes the roster over Robinson whom is a 68, and Whalen and Carter make the team over Dorsett who is also a 68. Wth? It makes me just want to wait for an update or something.Edit: On even further investigation there definitely has to be something wrong like a missed update or something with my game. Dorsett is supposed to be in the 70s and the Colts are supposed to be 87, the Colts in my game are 80... *cue x-files theme* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano1818 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 It will be situational. If the Corner is bigger, more aggresive, Dorsett will play more.If he is smaller, faster type, then Montcrief will have the majority of the snaps.Pep talks about finding mismatches and taking advantage of them With both those guys, we have a mismatching dream.Fully expect 1 guy to play alot one week then the other having a big day a different week.It's not about who deserves it more, it's about winning.I agree..... I think you will see that they will ALSO use Moncrief more when it is red zone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron11 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Not sure if it's just an issue with me, but I can only get him and Robinson if I include the preseason in my franchise and don't select the option advance to the preseason from the get go. If I do advance, Tyler Varga makes the roster over Robinson whom is a 68, and Whalen and Carter make the team over Dorsett who is also a 68. Wth? It makes me just want to wait for an update or something.now i see what you mean. madden sims can be kind of funky sometimes. isnt there an option in the settings to take total control over the roster yourself? also 68 seems too low for Dorsett, it could have been an update but hes at 73 as of one day ago according to that article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OffensivelyPC Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Moncrief will be three It will be situational. If the Corner is bigger, more aggresive, Dorsett will play more.If he is smaller, faster type, then Montcrief will have the majority of the snaps.Pep talks about finding mismatches and taking advantage of them With both those guys, we have a mismatching dream.Fully expect 1 guy to play alot one week then the other having a big day a different week.It's not about who deserves it more, it's about winning.This is how I see it as well. Production will play a role of course, but snap counts will depend on the opponent I think. I tend to lean on Moncrief getting more snaps based on experience alone - at least initially anyway. I've liked what I've seen from Dorsett so far and I think that he has some of the best raw skills that you could ask for in a WR, but I want to see how he does in meaningful games, where press coverage should be tighter. I haven't really been able to watch tape to see how he runs his routes, but he's getting separation, so that's at least a decent indication, for what preseason judgments are worth. But until that time, if we're just discussing who is ahead on the depth chart for fun, Moncrief should be ahead on the depth chart for now until someone takes it from him or he gives it away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patagonia Chris Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Not sure if it's just an issue with me, but I can only get him and Robinson if I include the preseason in my franchise and don't select the option advance to the preseason from the get go. If I do advance, Tyler Varga makes the roster over Robinson whom is a 68, and Whalen and Carter make the team over Dorsett who is also a 68. Wth? It makes me just want to wait for an update or something.Edit: On even further investigation there definitely has to be something wrong like a missed update or something with my game. Dorsett is supposed to be in the 70s and the Colts are supposed to be 87, the Colts in my game are 80... *cue x-files theme* If you're playing franchise mode it's because the ratings change due to your preferences in the schemes. You know how you can change what type of player you want at each position? Well it judges the OVR based on 4 or 5 attributes depending on your preference. For example, if you have it set so you prefer "Red Zone Target" WR's, then Dorsett will be rated lower because his strengths are speed and acceleration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black-Vell Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Football is really about packages. Yes, there will be packages with Dorsett at the 3, or Moncrief, or Fleenor, or anyone. The 3rd WR spot is just like a Nickleback, who is out there is contingent on what we are trying to do. There will not be the same 3rd WR out there for every situation. Dorsett will be out there, when depends on matchup. This game is chess, not checkers. Also, Moncrief is a "better" WR then Dorsett right now, but Dorsett needs more reps. I believe Dorsett & Moncrief will be used in some speed packages with T.Y. But Moncrief also has size & speed to play in big sets with Andre Coby & D Carter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoColts8818 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Clearly Hilton is the number one but beyond that I think the Colts feel like they have three number "two" level WRs and will mix them up depending on play calls and situations. I expect Johnson to be out there more than Moncrief and Dorsett but I think all four are going to play a lot. Factor in Fleener's ability to stretch the field and Allen being a good passing threat and if everyone can stay healthy and the line gives Luck anytime to throw the Colts passing attack should be deadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
achcolts Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 this season is gonna be wild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabbanobadda Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Clearly Hilton is the number one but beyond that I think the Colts feel like they have three number "two" level WRs and will mix them up depending on play calls and situations. I expect Johnson to be out there more than Moncrief and Dorsett but I think all four are going to play a lot. Factor in Fleener's ability to stretch the field and Allen being a good passing threat and if everyone can stay healthy and the line gives Luck anytime to throw the Colts passing attack should be deadly.I agree, especially given AJ's age. I think they are going to rotate all these guys. Plus, Gore will be Gore and if Robinson turns out to be something(which I think he will) and Boom, we have crazy depth at all skill positions...barring injuries of course. If we have a killer, don't let up attitude this year it's going to be really hard for opposing teams to keep up. Only question mark? O-line...which I think will at least be average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boiler_Colt Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Other than the fumble, I think Dorsett has looked like a more complete receiver than Moncrief this preseason. Better route running and separation. I think we'll see plenty of both but I like Dorsett at this point. I still need to see Moncrief use his size to his advantage more and go up and high-point balls. A trips formation with TY, Dorsett, and Crief is scary to think about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COLTS449 Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 They'll both get about equal snaps. But I don't know. I go back and forth. One could break away from the other and get the majority of the snaps as our 3rd WR. Either way, our offense is about to be something pretty special. Teams are really going to struggle defending the pass against us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akcolt Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 IMO Dorsett is obviously the more polished of the two. You can just tell he is so smooth he makes it look easy. He gets separation easily catches the ball with his hands and can fly. The kid is going to be really good. Moncrief has all the tools and some great guys to learn from. I think he is on the normal WR growth chart. He will really take off year 3. I think it is pretty easy to see why one went at the end of the 1st round and the other in the 3rd round. Dorsett and TY are going to be very difficult to deal with this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Debonair Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Moncrief doesn't use his size well. If he can get a grasp on that he could easily be the #2, once AJ leaves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funktacious2 Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 If you're playing franchise mode it's because the ratings change due to your preferences in the schemes. You know how you can change what type of player you want at each position? Well it judges the OVR based on 4 or 5 attributes depending on your preference. For example, if you have it set so you prefer "Red Zone Target" WR's, then Dorsett will be rated lower because his strengths are speed and acceleration. Interesting. I will look into this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockThatBlue Posted August 29, 2015 Author Share Posted August 29, 2015 IMO Dorsett is obviously the more polished of the two. You can just tell he is so smooth he makes it look easy. He gets separation easily catches the ball with his hands and can fly. The kid is going to be really good. Moncrief has all the tools and some great guys to learn from. I think he is on the normal WR growth chart. He will really take off year 3. I think it is pretty easy to see why one went at the end of the 1st round and the other in the 3rd round. Dorsett and TY are going to be very difficult to deal with this year.Agree about Dorsett he looks like a vet out there not a rookie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudeski Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Other than the fumble, I think Dorsett has looked like a more complete receiver than Moncrief this preseason. Better route running and separation. I think we'll see plenty of both but I like Dorsett at this point. I still need to see Moncrief use his size to his advantage more and go up and high-point balls. A trips formation with TY, Dorsett, and Crief is scary to think about.dorsett plays the slot. Moncrief doesn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudeski Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Moncrief doesn't use his size well. If he can get a grasp on that he could easily be the #2, once AJ leavesexplain this nonsense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Superman Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 They will both see a lot of PT. I'm loving what I'm seeing from Dorsett though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Debonair Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 explain this nonsenseGoing up and high pointing the ball. Battling the DBs in the air. 50/50 balls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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