hilton, dorsett, moncrief vs harrison, wayne, stokely

[CR91]

this is premature I get it, but who would you take

[iuswingman]

Moncrief and Dorsett are both relatively unproven.  Harrison and Wayne were both great receivers and Stokley was a solid 3rd option.

 

Have to go with them for now until either Moncrief or Dorsett turn into pro level receivers.

[TKnight24]

Taking Hilton & Co.

Only cause I never really cared for Stokely

[jvan1973]

Two hall of famers vs very young guys just getting started?

[Bravo]

Young guns prevail in this one as a combo.

If it was individual players skill obviously different.

[Rackeen305]

Marvin= outside of J.Rice, the greatest WR of all time. I dare anyone find stats, to prove the contrary, WAYNE, probably the second greatest colt WR and HOFamer, Stokely trade pait. Hilton, and etc. are young players getting better, Dorset is like lebron, getting credit before he hits the court/field. So let's not get ahead of ourselves. Besides, Hilton, Dorsett, Moncrief are like 2/3/4th WR anyways.

[Dustin]

Harrison >>>> Hilton

 

Wayne >>> Moncrief + Dorsett

[CR91]

Harrison >>>> Hilton

 

Wayne >>> Moncrief + Dorsett

 

hilton has had marv like moments though. look at that catch vs the pats in the playoffs and tell me that didnt remind you of marv

[CR91]

Two hall of famers vs very young guys just getting started?

 

which is why I said this was premature. just have fun with it

[IndyTrav]

Marvin= outside of J.Rice, the greatest WR of all time. I dare anyone find stats, to prove the contrary, 

 

Heres one:

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MossRa00.htm

 

Heres another:

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/O/OwenTe00.htm

[ColtsLegacy]

This should be a landslide, 100% to 0%. Not even a question.

[Steamboat_Shaun]

Marvin= outside of J.Rice, the greatest WR of all time. I dare anyone find stats, to prove the contrary, WAYNE, probably the second greatest colt WR and HOFamer, Stokely trade pait. Hilton, and etc. are young players getting better, Dorset is like lebron, getting credit before he hits the court/field. So let's not get ahead of ourselves. Besides, Hilton, Dorsett, Moncrief are like 2/3/4th WR anyways.

 

IMO Randy Moss > Marvin Harrison if we're talking about GOAT outside of Rice. Harrison easily cracks the top 5 or 10, but Moss was otherworldly. Big, had absurd hands, virtually uncoverable, freakish speed, commanded double teams and still had amazing statistics. Anyone remember when Revis tried to cover him 1-on-1 and blew his hamstring while hauled in the TD? Honestly, I've never seen a more pure and just naturally talented receiver than Moss. Sure he never got a ring, but neither did Barry Sanders.

[IndyD4U]

Considering the later has yet to step onto the football field together, I'd say 2

[backshoulderfade]

Harrison and Wayne in their primes and it's not really close.

[bsteves]

Heres one:

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MossRa00.htm

Heres another:

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/O/OwenTe00.htm

I'm sorry did you just compare Terell Owens to Marvin Harrison?

[IndyTrav]

I'm sorry did you just compare Terell Owens to Marvin Harrison?

 

....TO was better.... Hands weren't as good as Marvs, but was an athletic freak....Total nut job, and diva, but an absolute monster on the football field..... 

[BlueCollarColts]

Why isn't Andre Johnson in this?

[CR91]

Why isn't Andre Johnson in this?

 

because at best he'll be here for two years. this is looking towards the future

[GoColts8818]

Marvin and Wayne are Hall of Famers. TY has made a probowl. With all due respect this not comparable yet.

[Dustin]

....TO was better.... 

 

[HtownColt]

Not even debatable

[Bluefire4]

TY has a chance to get to the level of Harrison and Wayne, but I don't think Moncrief or Dorsett does. 

[Colts_Fan12]

This isn't even a question most likely 2 hall of famers vs 2 kids and Hilton who still himself isn't on Wayne or Harrison's level

[Colts_Fan12]

TY has a chance to get to the level of Harrison and Wayne, but I don't think Moncrief or Dorsett does.

moncrief has tons of talent and he's bigger just needs more time to develop he didn't get a lot of playing time

[backshoulderfade]

moncrief has tons of talent and he's bigger just needs more time to develop he didn't get a lot of playing time

If he starts to play the ball more agressively, uses that frame to box out corners more often and continues developing his route tree then I believe we have a perennial 1000-yard wide out on our hands.

[csmopar]

Can't make this comparison until we see them play.  revisit this next off season

[Grigs build the lines plz.]

If the young guns are still on the team in 5 years, then this poll

would be close.

[mikey287]

This should be a landslide, 100% to 0%. Not even a question.

 

Correct. I assumed, when I saw the title, there would be some kind of a twist or something. The only way this poll is close is if you said "today, right now, who do you take..." 

[CanuckColt]

This is some kind of joke...it's not even close...the old guys win by miles and miles.

[Dark Superman]

This is a joke, right? You're going to compare Hilton, Moncrief and Dorsett to two hall of famers and one of the better slot receivers to play the game in the 2000's

[Rackeen305]

Hay @steamboat_shaun,and @IndyTrav.I don't mean to take the steam out of your engine, but if we want to use your sites, you actually prove my point.

Moss= Games =219, yards = 15,200

Marvin= 190, yards= 14,500

T.Owens= 219, yards= 15,900

What we see here is that, Owens and moss played 29 more games right? And had 1500 more yards. How many games are in a season 16 right? They almost played 2 whole seasons more than Marvin. So if Marvin played just as many games, what does that mean? Just becuz B.Farve played for half a century, doesn't make him the greatest QB ever. You got to be more careful.

And Moss only had 700 more yards than Marvin, despite playing 29 more games.

[braveheartcolt]

It's like comparing a day at the dentist getting all your teeth pulled out vs a long weekend in Vegas with the boys.

[jskinnz]

which is why I said this was premature. just have fun with it

 

So the only way to have fun with this is to say this year's receivers?

 

And how do you know he wasn't having fun when he typed it?

[BOTT]

....TO was better.... Hands weren't as good as Marvs, but was an athletic freak....Total nut job, and diva, but an absolute monster on the football field.....

TO had a ton of drops in crucial situations. Jimmy Johnson even charted them on FOX one morning.....it wasn't pretty. But I guess Marvin's post season troubles kinda cancels that out as far that debate.

[BOTT]

Hay @steamboat_shaun,and @IndyTrav.I don't mean to take the steam out of your engine, but if we want to use your sites, you actually prove my point.

Moss= Games =219, yards = 15,200

Marvin= 190, yards= 14,500

T.Owens= 219, yards= 15,900

What we see here is that, Owens and moss played 29 more games right? And had 1500 more yards. How many games are in a season 16 right? They almost played 2 whole seasons more than Marvin. So if Marvin played just as many games, what does that mean? Just becuz B.Farve played for half a century, doesn't make him the greatest QB ever. You got to be more careful.

And Moss only had 700 more yards than Marvin, despite playing 29 more games.

It means that one of the above played with Peyton Manning. Not saying you don't have a valid argument, although I disagree, but just throwing up stats isn't going to change anyone's mind.

[BOTT]

TY has a chance to get to the level of Harrison and Wayne, but I don't think Moncrief or Dorsett does.

Boy, you are quick to judge. I don't think anyone foresaw the careers of Marvin and Reggie after yr one.

[Grigs build the lines plz.]

Taking Hilton & Co.

Only cause I never really cared for Stokely

Stokely was pretty good, why the hate?

[Imped]

Stokely is one of my all time favorite Colts (and players, for that matter). 

 

The three of them are a historic trio. Dorsett hasn't caught a ball yet. If the new trio can do some damage for a couple seasons then we can start having that discussion. 

[TKnight24]

Stokely was pretty good, why the hate?

He was, just didn't really care for him. No hate, just less appreciated of the 2 before him lol

Harrison & Wayne paired with Clark.... really wasn't a need for Stokely. But I thank him for all he did for us, just wasn't one of my favorite colts is all

[Grigs build the lines plz.]

He was, just didn't really care for him. No hate, just less appreciated of the 2 before him lol

Harrison & Wayne paired with Clark.... really wasn't a need for Stokely. But I thank him for all he did for us, just wasn't one of my favorite colts is all

Fair enough,  but that was a pretty good cast with Clark at the TE and Stokely in the slot. I hope our

TE and WR squad can come close to the excitement that these guys brought to the games.

 

Heckuva receiving game back then.