Jump to content
Indianapolis Colts
Indianapolis Colts Fan Forum

"Frank Gore will look 22yrs old in Colts Offense" (Article)


TKnight24

Recommended Posts

NFL scout to @mikefreemanNFL: Frank Gore will look like he’s 22 years old in #Colts’ wide-open offense http://t.co/apTcUEo7Rb

— Chris Wesseling (@ChrisWesseling)

July 31, 2015

Good little write up to make you guys smile on this beautiful Friday.... a Blue Friday for us :colts: fans

And speaking of blue...... TC tomorrow!!!!!

#COLTSCAMP STARTS TOMORROW. pic.twitter.com/COLapc9Rdr

— Indianapolis Colts (@Colts)

July 31, 2015

:yahoo:

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I read that one the other day, good stuff. I'll be happy if we can get 1,000 all purpose yards out of Gore.

I'm just happy that he's now on a team where he doesn't have to do all the work. Kap was holding him back, Luck is gonna get the last few good miles left out of Gore

Link to comment
Share on other sites

This will be the largest task of his NFL career. It's obvious he's not getting any younger, playing in a new system, and this could possibly be the worst run Olines he's ever played behind.

All that being said, This Colts offense will be the most explosive Gore has ran with also!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Even if this is his worst online, he is used to 8 or 9 man boxes. In SF he constantly made the unaccounted tackler miss. The lack of extra defenders in the box should offset are oline.

Bingo

Pep has already said it'll be a lot of 4 WR sets this year. Stack the box if you want to, you won't like watching a WR streaking down the field for a TD

Link to comment
Share on other sites

It's never as good as you think, or as bad as you think.

 

Gore will have a productive year, but not play like he's 22 because he's not 22. Father time is undefeated.

 

It's been well documented that Gore faced the highest percentage of 8, 9-man boxes, but it was only 30% of the time. Even if he faces less 8, 9-man boxes, let's say 20%, it's still not a majority, and the difference will have an impact but not as great as we are hoping for.

 

I think Gore will be fine this year and possibly the next year, however, we still need to find the RB of the future. T-Rich wasn't the answer.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I agree with this article.

 

However, I'll point out that most scouts were wowed with Trent Richardson before the draft, and said most of the same things when we traded for him. Let's see how he looks in preseason.

 

to be fair, a large majority of us thought trent was gonna be our running game for years to come

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I agree with this article.

However, I'll point out that most scouts were wowed with Trent Richardson before the draft, and said most of the same things when we traded for him. Let's see how he looks in preseason.

But that was in college. The warning signs were there for TRich in Cleveland, we just all ignored them. Frank Gore has proved himself for about 3 decades straight in the NFL (he's been in the NFL since 1983, right?).

Link to comment
Share on other sites

to be fair, a large majority of us thought trent was gonna be our running game for years to come

 

Richardson was the biggest miss, from a scouting perspective, that I can remember. I never expected him to be the next AP or Emmitt Smith, mostly because of the nature of the game today, but I did expect him to be really, really good. He was the opposite.

 

And I think everyone except Jim Brown thought the same.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

But that was in college. The warning signs were there for TRich in Cleveland, we just all ignored them. Frank Gore has proved himself for about 3 decades straight in the NFL (he's been in the NFL since 1983, right?).

 

Ha, something like that.

 

The thinking with him in Cleveland was 'the QB sucks, the passing game is terrible, they're stacking up to stop the run and he gets no help.' He was supposed to benefit from playing with a good QB in a balanced offense in Indy. Instead, he dragged the offense down.

 

By the way, I'm not defending Grigson's trade. You don't give up a first for a RB; that's one of the rules in my roster management manifesto. But no one expected him to be one of the worst backs in the league.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Richardson was the biggest miss, from a scouting perspective, that I can remember. I never expected him to be the next AP or Emmitt Smith, mostly because of the nature of the game today, but I did expect him to be really, really good. He was the opposite.

And I think everyone except Jim Brown thought the same.

During Mark Ingram's heisman winning season I remember talking with my friend about how much more impressed we were with Ingram's backup than Ingram himself. Ingram's backup that year was a true freshman Trent Richardson.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Ha, something like that.

The thinking with him in Cleveland was 'the QB sucks, the passing game is terrible, they're stacking up to stop the run and he gets no help.' He was supposed to benefit from playing with a good QB in a balanced offense in Indy. Instead, he dragged the offense down.

By the way, I'm not defending Grigson's trade. You don't give up a first for a RB; that's one of the rules in my roster management manifesto. But no one expected him to be one of the worst backs in the league.

I know you're not defending it. I knew the point you were making.

I can't forsee another trade as bad in our lifetime.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Richardson was the biggest miss, from a scouting perspective, that I can remember. I never expected him to be the next AP or Emmitt Smith, mostly because of the nature of the game today, but I did expect him to be really, really good. He was the opposite.

 

And I think everyone except Jim Brown thought the same.

 

idk what jim brown saw, but im surprised hes not tooting his own horn

Link to comment
Share on other sites

idk what jim brown saw, but im surprised hes not tooting his own horn

 

Being honest, I don't think Jim Brown saw anything. Even now, if you go back and watch Richardson's AL film, he looks like he's going to be a star. I think he got lazy, didn't put in the work, and the rest is history. There are a lot of backroom whispers that he didn't do the things he needed to do to make it.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Being honest, I don't think Jim Brown saw anything. Even now, if you go back and watch Richardson's AL film, he looks like he's going to be a star. I think he got lazy, didn't put in the work, and the rest is history. There are a lot of backroom whispers that he didn't do the things he needed to do to make it.

 

 

I do recall Jim Brown making a statement of Richardson being like the average running back very early in his career.  I think it was almost as soon as he hit the league just about.  Not trying to say he's a prophet or anything though.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

This will be the largest task of his NFL career. It's obvious he's not getting any younger, playing in a new system, and this could possibly be the worst run Olines he's ever played behind.

All that being said, This Colts offense will be the most explosive Gore has ran with also!

As noted in the article, Colts running backs not named "Richardson" averaged 4.7 YPC behind the offensive line over the past 2 years.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

This is my favorite part of the article!

 

"Luck can now direct a true pick-your-poison attack, softening boxes with Gore, exploiting mismatches underneath with Johnson, Dwayne Allen and Coby Fleener and connecting on short plays outside the numbers and down the field with Dorsett, Moncrief and T.Y. Hilton."

 

"This is nightmare fuel for opposing defensive coordinators."

Link to comment
Share on other sites

As noted in the article, Colts running backs not named "Richardson" averaged 4.7 YPC behind the offensive line over the past 2 years.

I will be impressed when I see a 1000 yard rusher behind this Oline. Something we haven't had in 8 years. Even in a pass happy offense it shouldn't be that difficult with the added attempts per carry. We will see this season just how much Gore has left in the tank.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I will be impressed when I see a 1000 yard rusher behind this Oline. Something we haven't had in 8 years. Even in a pass happy offense it shouldn't be that difficult with the added attempts per carry. We will see this season just how much Gore has left in the tank.

What if we had 3 guys with 600 yds each?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

idk what jim brown saw, but im surprised hes not tooting his own horn

It's what he didn't see. There was nothing, IMO, about Richardson that wow'd you. I didn't find him to be especially fast/quick, and not really a bruiser. Sure, he had some nice moves, but moves that wouldn't often work in the NFL.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

During Mark Ingram's heisman winning season I remember talking with my friend about how much more impressed we were with Ingram's backup than Ingram himself. Ingram's backup that year was a true freshman Trent Richardson.

 

Trent was great at Alabama his freshman and sophomore years.   Less great as a junior.

 

One thing I noted about him,  was that he got bigger every year...    about 10 pounds bigger.     He was roughly 205 as a freshman,  215 as a sophomore and 225 as a junior.

 

I think he was listed at 230 at Cleveland,  but I'm not convinced he played at that weight.

 

We listed him at 230 when he came to the Colts...   but I think he played at closer to 240,  certainly his first year.

 

The Trent we saw hardly resembles the Trent from his glory days at Alabama.    A real shame.    Once upon a time,  he was really, really good.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

This will be the largest task of his NFL career. It's obvious he's not getting any younger, playing in a new system, and this could possibly be the worst run Olines he's ever played behind.

All that being said, This Colts offense will be the most explosive Gore has ran with also!

Any RB not named Trent Richardson has actually put up respectable ypc numbers for us over the last two years. Don't sleep on Gore to put up some good numbers, especially with the threat of our receiving core and Luck to open it up even more.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

This will be the largest task of his NFL career. It's obvious he's not getting any younger, playing in a new system, and this could possibly be the worst run Olines he's ever played behind.

All that being said, This Colts offense will be the most explosive Gore has ran with also!

While the 49ers line was often referred to as a "mauler" line, last year that was not true.  The only regular linemen who played healthy and most of the year was Joe Staley.  They had spotty service from Boone, Anthony Davis, and Iupati, and when they played, they often did so injured. They relied on a lot of guys who wont be in the league long, like Jonathan Martin

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I will be impressed when I see a 1000 yard rusher behind this Oline. Something we haven't had in 8 years. Even in a pass happy offense it shouldn't be that difficult with the added attempts per carry. We will see this season just how much Gore has left in the tank.

At 4.7 YPC average, it would only take 13 carries per game by the same player to achieve that. The top-10 rushers, last year, averaged almost 17 attempts and 4.7 YPC per game.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
×
×
  • Create New...