First-Pick.com Draft Grades

[SteelCityColt]

For all those who've dabbled in first-pick.com, they've back calculated the draft scores for teams on their actual drafts: 

 

http://www.first-pick.com/Content/SCORES_team_scores_2015.html

 

Personally think the Colts should have grade slightly better, but I do agreed a lot with the overall ranking, especially the Vikings. They are shaping up to be a team to watch if Bridgewater stands up as a franchise QB.

[21isSuperman]

I think giving Dorsett a B is too strict.  His talents weren't showcased very well at Miami.  With a couple of seasons of experience to work on knowing the playbook, running good routes, and getting used to the pace of the NFL, he could be an annual 1000+ yard receiver.  I've seen some comparisons of him made to Hilton and Antonio Brown.

 

David Parry as an F in the 5th round also seems kind of harsh.  If he comes in as a 5th rounder and can even get a rotational spot, I'd be happy.

[krunk]

Someone should make a show where Coaches and GMs grade the talking heads on intelligence. Wonder what the grades would be?

[NewColtsFan]

If I just had $1 for every time I've made the following point,  I'd be rich.

 

The people who run this website have absolutely no idea -- none -- about how to judge and evaluate talent.

 

The only time they're even close to accurate is typically the last two weeks before the draft.    By then,  they've seen how far off they are and they adjust.     Otherwise,  the projections are almost always hugely way, way, WAY off.

 

Pay no attention to them.    Not just on the Colts, but on every team.     And I'm not just saying that because they gave the Colts a "C".      I'd say the same thing if they gave the Colts an "A".

 

Seriously,  these guys have no idea what they're doing.    Their whole site could be considered click bait.

[BOTT]

I think giving Dorsett a B is too strict.  His talents weren't showcased very well at Miami.  With a couple of seasons of experience to work on knowing the playbook, running good routes, and getting used to the pace of the NFL, he could be an annual 1000+ yard receiver.  I've seen some comparisons of him made to Hilton and Antonio Brown.

 

David Parry as an F in the 5th round also seems kind of harsh.  If he comes in as a 5th rounder and can even get a rotational spot, I'd be happy.

Two yrs? I'm expect him to make a mark this yr. although with all the receivers to feed his numbers might not be super impressive.

[tpry1965]

Two yrs? I'm expect him to make a mark this yr. although with all the receivers to feed his numbers might not be super impressive.

 

Dorsett was an A pick on the Draft Board for the Colts who are working towards making their strongest weapon perfect. He won’t see high numbers in 15 - 16 cause he will be used primarily for his drawing speed while Luck goes for the sure hands of Andre, T.Y. and Fleener... also, Colts have a significantly better ground attack this year and that’s going to draw from Dorsett's grabs as well. If he plays his role right, I think every secondary at the end of the season will go to bed with nightmares of Luck and the Colt’s receiving core.  

[Bravo]

I think giving Dorsett a B is too strict. His talents weren't showcased very well at Miami. With a couple of seasons of experience to work on knowing the playbook, running good routes, and getting used to the pace of the NFL, he could be an annual 1000+ yard receiver. I've seen some comparisons of him made to Hilton and Antonio Brown.

David Parry as an F in the 5th round also seems kind of harsh. If he comes in as a 5th rounder and can even get a rotational spot, I'd be happy.

I think a B is very fair.

The talk is like you stated "his talents weren't showcased" or he was completely undervalued in that Miami offense due to changing QB's, a knee injury, and poor QB play his senior year.

Well since he didn't get to consistently show off his talents why would he deserve a higher grade? For what he got to show I think a B is a perfect grade for him. Maybe even a B- wouldn't be bad.

I'm still not completely sold on him obviously. I think the hype is a bit on the high side and some will be disappointed. We will have to wait and see I guess. He has the athletic ability and seems like a good route runner. Also seems to have a good personality and wants to get better.

I think in the future he can turn into a very good WR but right now the hype is really high.

[Yoshinator]

I think giving Dorsett a B is too strict.  His talents weren't showcased very well at Miami.  With a couple of seasons of experience to work on knowing the playbook, running good routes, and getting used to the pace of the NFL, he could be an annual 1000+ yard receiver.  I've seen some comparisons of him made to Hilton and Antonio Brown.

 

David Parry as an F in the 5th round also seems kind of harsh.  If he comes in as a 5th rounder and can even get a rotational spot, I'd be happy.

David Parry as an F is absolutely fair. I predicted he won't make the 53, and I'm sticking to it. When we were in the chat for the draft, I was begging for us to trade up for Michael Bennett, a 2nd round defensive tackle talent that fell for what I can confidently say now, no real reason except he got lost in the shuffle. When we traded up and our pick came in, for 3 seconds the screen said DT and I thought we got Bennett. Instead we take a guy named David Parry for no other reason except he had a Stanford defensive connection with our 3rd round pick Henry Anderson. Absolute deserved F.

[krunk]

I'd like to see more interactions between Coach/Former Coach and a talking head like Kiper.  I absolutely loved how Gruden was eating his lunch throughout that entire video.

[krunk]

David Parry as an F is absolutely fair. I predicted he won't make the 53, and I'm sticking to it. When we were in the chat for the draft, I was begging for us to trade up for Michael Bennett, a 2nd round defensive tackle talent that fell for what I can confidently say now, no real reason except he got lost in the shuffle. When we traded up and our pick came in, for 3 seconds the screen said DT and I thought we got Bennett. Instead we take a guy named David Parry for no other reason except he had a Stanford defensive connection with our 3rd round pick Henry Anderson. Absolute deserved F.

 

Strange to say the Colts spent a 5th round pick on someone just because they played with Henry Anderson.

I meant come on there's got to be a better reason than that.  How about the kid can play, Grigs isn't that silly.

Parry fits here way more than Bennett would have.

 

Now with that being said I think Bennett was a really good pick up for the Jaguars scheme. Honestly even with them he isn't really going to see the field much.  Wouldn't be surprised if they cut him and placed him on the PS.

[21isSuperman]

Two yrs? I'm expect him to make a mark this yr. although with all the receivers to feed his numbers might not be super impressive.

I give him this season just to get used to things because we have such a crowded group of pass catchers, and he'll be a rookie.

 

I think a B is very fair.

The talk is like you stated "his talents weren't showcased" or he was completely undervalued in that Miami offense due to changing QB's, a knee injury, and poor QB play his senior year.

Well since he didn't get to consistently show off his talents why would he deserve a higher grade? For what he got to show I think a B is a perfect grade for him. Maybe even a B- wouldn't be bad.

I'm still not completely sold on him obviously. I think the hype is a bit on the high side and some will be disappointed. We will have to wait and see I guess. He has the athletic ability and seems like a good route runner. Also seems to have a good personality and wants to get better.

I think in the future he can turn into a very good WR but right now the hype is really high.

He is being hyped quite a bit, but I think all the tools are there, physically and mentally.  If he has a bad season in terms of numbers, I think it'll be more due to having so many pass catchers on the team.  I guess time will tell.

 

David Parry as an F is absolutely fair. I predicted he won't make the 53, and I'm sticking to it. When we were in the chat for the draft, I was begging for us to trade up for Michael Bennett, a 2nd round defensive tackle talent that fell for what I can confidently say now, no real reason except he got lost in the shuffle. When we traded up and our pick came in, for 3 seconds the screen said DT and I thought we got Bennett. Instead we take a guy named David Parry for no other reason except he had a Stanford defensive connection with our 3rd round pick Henry Anderson. Absolute deserved F.

He's a 5th round pick.  You don't really expect much from him.  I also find it hard to believe that 32 NFL GMs and all their scouts and personnel guys simply forgot about Michael Bennett for 3 rounds.  You can also find why the Colts took David Parry.  The Stanford connection might have something to do with it, but it would be a very small reason

[SteelCityColt]

David Parry as an F is absolutely fair. I predicted he won't make the 53, and I'm sticking to it. When we were in the chat for the draft, I was begging for us to trade up for Michael Bennett, a 2nd round defensive tackle talent that fell for what I can confidently say now, no real reason except he got lost in the shuffle. When we traded up and our pick came in, for 3 seconds the screen said DT and I thought we got Bennett. Instead we take a guy named David Parry for no other reason except he had a Stanford defensive connection with our 3rd round pick Henry Anderson. Absolute deserved F.

I suppose you think we drafted Fleener just because he played with Luck? Have you actually watched any tape on Parry?

You're accidentelly semi right in that it's pretty well known that while scouting Anderson they noticed Parry making plays so in a way yes they drafted him because of Anderson.

[krunk]

How does a 2nd round defensive tackle get "lost in the shuffle"?  If teams feel a player is legitimately worthy of being drafted in the second round they don't lose you and then wake up and say "Oh yeah I forgot about Mike Bennet!" and pull the trigger in the 7th round.  The boards spoke and teams including the ones whose scheme he translates right into thought the value was much lower than the 2nd round.  Doesn't mean he's a bad player, but that's where they placed him off his college tape.

[Defjamz26]

I suppose you think we drafted Fleener just because he played with Luck? Have you actually watched any tape on Parry?

You're accidentelly semi right in that it's pretty well known that while scouting Anderson they noticed Parry making plays so in a way yes they drafted him because of Anderson.

Fleener was a sense pick. Given the circumstances at the time, out wad a very obvious pick that made too much sense not to make. Clark and Tamme were gone, consensus top TE, played with Luck. Playing with Luck wad probably just a small factor out of many.

I don't think that was the case with Parry. They probably like what they saw on tape from Anderson and couldn't help but notice Parry making plays too. Our isn't uncommon for teams to draft two players from the same school in the same draft. Least year the Jags drafted Bortles and Storm Johnson from UCF. I agree with you

[Yoshinator]

How does a 2nd round defensive tackle get "lost in the shuffle"?  If teams feel a player is legitimately worthy of being drafted in the second round they don't lose you and then wake up and say "Oh yeah I forgot about Mike Bennet!" and pull the trigger in the 7th round.  The boards spoke and teams including the ones whose scheme he translates right into thought the value was much lower than the 2nd round.  Doesn't mean he's a bad player, but that's where they placed him off his college tape.

Show me where Michael Bennett had character concerns or other issues and I will change my mind, I know you can't. Sometimes players fall. I can sure show you he was a 2nd round talent based on scouting reports if you don't believe me. If every player went exactly where they were valued, there would be no steals in the draft or no value picks. I don't understand how you fail to grasp this. 

[Yoshinator]

Strange to say the Colts spent a 5th round pick on someone just because they played with Henry Anderson.

I meant come on there's got to be a better reason than that.  How about the kid can play, Grigs isn't that silly.

Parry fits here way more than Bennett would have.

 

Now with that being said I think Bennett was a really good pick up for the Jaguars scheme. Honestly even with them he isn't really going to see the field much.  Wouldn't be surprised if they cut him and placed him on the PS.

I agree with that as Parry plays a 3-4 defense better and Bennett is more suited for a 4-3, however, the talent difference is too big not to take Bennett. Let me put it to you this way, if a team offered to trade their 2nd round pick for our 5th rounder, would you do it? I'm sure you would. This is basically the same thing. Two players at the same position with a three round talent difference, and Grigson basically said he wouldn't do that trade and took the 5th rounder.

[Yoshinator]

I suppose you think we drafted Fleener just because he played with Luck? Have you actually watched any tape on Parry?

You're accidentelly semi right in that it's pretty well known that while scouting Anderson they noticed Parry making plays so in a way yes they drafted him because of Anderson.

We drafted Fleener because 1.) He was an actual late 1st round talent that we got at the beginning of the 2nd, and 2.) Luck throws to Fleener and that chemistry is a lot more important than two defensive players playing together in a defensive line in college. I watched a bit of tape on Parry after he was drafted and he's doesn't look that good. He may fit the 3-4, but he's nowhere near as good as Michael Bennett and Grigson goofed, plain and simple. As far as late round picks go, Grigson hasn't earned the benefit of the doubt, I believe other than Ulrick John, none of our 6th and 7th rounders are even on the team that Grigson has drafted in the last three years. None of the 5th rounders have stood out either besides newsome. So 1 out of 12 picks I believe in the last 3 rounds.

[Yoshinator]

I give him this season just to get used to things because we have such a crowded group of pass catchers, and he'll be a rookie.

 

He is being hyped quite a bit, but I think all the tools are there, physically and mentally.  If he has a bad season in terms of numbers, I think it'll be more due to having so many pass catchers on the team.  I guess time will tell.

 

He's a 5th round pick.  You don't really expect much from him.  I also find it hard to believe that 32 NFL GMs and all their scouts and personnel guys simply forgot about Michael Bennett for 3 rounds.  You can also find why the Colts took David Parry.  The Stanford connection might have something to do with it, but it would be a very small reason

I agree with this, that's why when a 2nd round talent at the same position falls 3 rounds, you take him. Bennett isn't going to lose 3 rounds of talent because he was drafted in the 5th, he'll be a 2nd round guy drafted in the 5th with a solid chance of starting, why wouldn't you do that? Also, if you believe that that the 32 GMs didn't forget about Bennett, find me the the actual reason they didn't draft him. It wasn't character concerns, I know that 100%, and Grigson should of known that on draft day when he had that info before us. It was a typical late round goof, and even though I really liked the draft, it was a bad move that could of cost us a solid starter. http://www.indystar.com/story/sports/nfl/colts/colts-insider/2015/05/10/indianapolis-colts-defensive-linemen-henry-anderson-david-parry-stanford-nfl-draft/27091455/There's an article on why he took Parry. They scouted anderson and wanted both.

[21isSuperman]

I agree with this, that's why when a 2nd round talent at the same position falls 3 rounds, you take him. Bennett isn't going to lose 3 rounds of talent because he was drafted in the 5th, he'll be a 2nd round guy drafted in the 5th with a solid chance of starting, why wouldn't you do that? Also, if you believe that that the 32 GMs didn't forget about Bennett, find me the the actual reason they didn't draft him. It wasn't character concerns, I know that 100%, and Grigson should of known that on draft day when he had that info before us. It was a typical late round goof, and even though I really liked the draft, it was a bad move that could of cost us a solid starter. http://www.indystar.com/story/sports/nfl/colts/colts-insider/2015/05/10/indianapolis-colts-defensive-linemen-henry-anderson-david-parry-stanford-nfl-draft/27091455/There's an article on why he took Parry. They scouted anderson and wanted both.

As the article states, there was no intention of taking them as a package, unlike what you said.

 

Todd McShay on Bennett:

http://buckeyextra.dispatch.com/content/blogs/blogging-the-buckeyes/2015/05/0503-benett-slide.html

I understood why he slipped a little bit because there are only so many teams looking for a three-technique and an inside pass-rusher. He ideally fits in a Tampa 2 system. Not always are those teams looking for that player. They have other needs and maybe had players rated higher at other positions. I could understand a little bit, but falling all the way to the sixth round really shocked me.

I did get back a couple texts saying maybe there was maybe a little more medical than people thought. I don’t have any details on that. I think that was probably part of it

[krunk]

Show me where Michael Bennett had character concerns or other issues and I will change my mind, I know you can't. Sometimes players fall. I can sure show you he was a 2nd round talent based on scouting reports if you don't believe me. If every player went exactly where they were valued, there would be no steals in the draft or no value picks. I don't understand how you fail to grasp this. 

 

Character concerns are not the only thing that drives a player falling in the draft.  To be specific to this conversation a player can also take a perceived fall when a bunch of people who are not Coaches or GMs assign him a 2nd round value even though those whose thought process they are not privy to(coaches and gms) view that player with a much lower grade.  Falling to the 7th round with no character concerns kind of gives you a clue of where teams really had him assessed.  Who wouldn't jump at a 2nd round talent in the later rounds of the draft if that's what he truly was?  To most teams he was not a 2nd rounder.  What Kiper, Mcshay, Zirlein and the boys have to say about it doesn't matter.

[krunk]

I agree with that as Parry plays a 3-4 defense better and Bennett is more suited for a 4-3, however, the talent difference is too big not to take Bennett. Let me put it to you this way, if a team offered to trade their 2nd round pick for our 5th rounder, would you do it? I'm sure you would. This is basically the same thing. Two players at the same position with a three round talent difference, and Grigson basically said he wouldn't do that trade and took the 5th rounder.

 

Not sure that I agree, and one of my main points of contention is who told you Bennett was a 2nd rounder other than the talking heads?

Was it Chuck Pagano?  Was it Ryan Grigson?  Was it Jim Irsay? Was it anyone on the Colts Staff?  No one has privy to that information

before the draft.  None of them sat down with Mel Kiper, Zirlein, Brooks, Charles Davis, etc and said "Look here's our grades on these guys"

They(Kiper and the rest of the guys like him) watch film on their own and assess grades, but that's their own opinion and many times they get

proven dead wrong.  The real grade of any said player is determined by the Coaches and GM of the team.

 

If you go by what the Colts actually did Parry had a higher grade than Bennett, and I'm sure much of it had to do with scheme fit on top of whatever other

traits the Colts do their assessments by.  Not only can Parry play the nose in a 3-4, but he can also provide push on the pocket as a DT in a 4-3 scheme.

Bennett in all likelihood is a pure 3 technique in a 4-3 scheme.  Everybody knows Grigson loves players that are versatile, so Parry is the better fit.

[NewColtsFan]

Show me where Michael Bennett had character concerns or other issues and I will change my mind, I know you can't. Sometimes players fall. I can sure show you he was a 2nd round talent based on scouting reports if you don't believe me. If every player went exactly where they were valued, there would be no steals in the draft or no value picks. I don't understand how you fail to grasp this. 

 

I have no info on Bennett having character concerns.....

 

It's possible he could've failed a drug test at the combine....   that happens and players fall as a result and the fans never find out.

 

Or.....

 

It's possible he has a health issue...     a knee or foot,  or ankle....   and the fans wouldn't know and that's what caused him to fall.

 

But I think he's too talented to simply slip to the 6th round without some good reason.    I don't see that happening.

 

We,  the fans,   just don't know what that reason is........

[Yoshinator]

As the article states, there was no intention of taking them as a package, unlike what you said.

 

Todd McShay on Bennett:

http://buckeyextra.dispatch.com/content/blogs/blogging-the-buckeyes/2015/05/0503-benett-slide.html

I understood why he slipped a little bit because there are only so many teams looking for a three-technique and an inside pass-rusher. He ideally fits in a Tampa 2 system. Not always are those teams looking for that player. They have other needs and maybe had players rated higher at other positions. I could understand a little bit, but falling all the way to the sixth round really shocked me.

I did get back a couple texts saying maybe there was maybe a little more medical than people thought. I don’t have any details on that. I think that was probably part of it

Thank you for taking the time for checking that for me. As I said, it wasn't character concerns. I like the draft as I graded it a B in a previous thread and I was nitpicking here. I guess it's just frustration with always missing on late picks and I'd like to see Grigson go BPA late so we have the best possible chance of getting a solid player. I can't argue with the evidence you have shown me about Bennett falling, but Grigson's track record in the rounds 5-7 isn't good either. 

[Yoshinator]

Not sure that I agree, and one of my main points of contention is who told you Bennett was a 2nd rounder other than the talking heads?

Was it Chuck Pagano?  Was it Ryan Grigson?  Was it Jim Irsay? Was it anyone on the Colts Staff?  No one has privy to that information

before the draft.  None of them sat down with Mel Kiper, Zirlein, Brooks, Charles Davis, etc and said "Look here's our grades on these guys"

They(Kiper and the rest of the guys like him) watch film on their own and assess grades, but that's their own opinion and many times they get

proven dead wrong.  The real grade of any said player is determined by the Coaches and GM of the team.

 

If you go by what the Colts actually did Parry had a higher grade than Bennett, and I'm sure much of it had to do with scheme fit on top of whatever other

traits the Colts do their assessments by.  Not only can Parry play the nose in a 3-4, but he can also provide push on the pocket as a DT in a 4-3 scheme.

Bennett in all likelihood is a pure 3 technique in a 4-3 scheme.  Everybody knows Grigson loves players that are versatile, so Parry is the better fit.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1871307/michael-bennettThis is one scouting report that talks about him and shows his projection. http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profiles/michael-bennett?id=2552286 Here is another with his projection. Both of these say mid to late 2nd round, 2nd to 3rd round, 2nd round pick. It also shows his strengths and weaknesses as well to give a good idea of what he is about. 

 

Obviously I want Parry to succeed, but I worry about Grigson's track record with late picks. It seems he copies the Seahawks early pick strategy with his late picks: pick your own guys no matter what anyone says and not based on bpa. It's not as damaging as doing it early, but it's caused us to not have any decent players in rounds 6-7, and our round 5 guys besides newsome haven't done anything yet. I love our draft, because Grigson had the guts to take my no1 ranked WR in the 1st and still build a nice defensive in rounds 2-6 around it. That takes guts and skill. I'm nitpicking with Parry, but it's annoying because it seems to happen every year in the later rounds.

[Yoshinator]

I have no info on Bennett having character concerns.....

 

It's possible he could've failed a drug test at the combine....   that happens and players fall as a result and the fans never find out.

 

Or.....

 

It's possible he has a health issue...     a knee or foot,  or ankle....   and the fans wouldn't know and that's what caused him to fall.

 

But I think he's too talented to simply slip to the 6th round without some good reason.    I don't see that happening.

 

We,  the fans,   just don't know what that reason is........

That's fair, but I think it would have come out by now. Just so you don't think I hate Grigson or something, I don't. I always enjoy his drafts, in fact, I have him as the third best drafting GM in the league behind Ozzie Newsome and Ted Thompson. Grigson is excellent in the first 3 or 4 rounds. He can do it as well as anybody. When it comes to round 5-7, however, he seems to go with comfort picks he scouted before rather than BPA on the board and adjusting to the draft of what's currently out there, even if there is a far superior talent that fell. Sometimes you have to switch gears and because he hasn't done that, our round 5-7 picks (especially rounds 6-7) have been dreadful. Newsome is the only standout. It's nitpicking because he drafts well overall, but it's frustrating as well because we could have gotten a few more starters possibly over the last 3 or 4 years by going BPA in rounds 5-7. We'll see on Parry, hopefully he turns out well.

[NFLfan]

David Parry as an F is absolutely fair. I predicted he won't make the 53, and I'm sticking to it. When we were in the chat for the draft, I was begging for us to trade up for Michael Bennett, a 2nd round defensive tackle talent that fell for what I can confidently say now, no real reason except he got lost in the shuffle. When we traded up and our pick came in, for 3 seconds the screen said DT and I thought we got Bennett. Instead we take a guy named David Parry for no other reason except he had a Stanford defensive connection with our 3rd round pick Henry Anderson. Absolute deserved F.

You ought to take Dustin's predictions more seriously. In one thread before the draft, he wrote that Michael Bennett was one of the players that Grigson would not draft. He was right. In fact, all the players that he listed that would not be drafted by the Colts were not selected by Indy. He named many players (at least 20).

Players who don't fit perceived size requirements (DL):

Grady Jarrett, Clemson

Michael Bennett, Ohio State

Preston Smith, EDGE/DT

Mario Edwards Jr, EDGE/DT

http://forums.colts.com/topic/37871-based-on-current-roster-archetypes-and-other-factors-here-are-some-players-the-colts-will-likely-not-draft/page-1

In another thread, Dustin "predicted" that David Parry would be drafted by the Colts in the 5th round. He was right again.

Round 5 - David Parry, NT, Stanford

He went to Stanford. That's pretty much it.

http://forums.colts.com/topic/37752-the-what-will-happen-mock-draft-w-trade/#entry1088411

[Yoshinator]

You ought to take Dustin's predictions more seriously. In one thread before the draft, he wrote that Michael Bennett was one of the players that Grigson would not draft. He was right. In fact, all the players that he listed that would not be drafted by the Colts were not selected by Indy. He named many players (at least 20).

http://forums.colts.com/topic/37871-based-on-current-roster-archetypes-and-other-factors-here-are-some-players-the-colts-will-likely-not-draft/page-1

In another thread, Dustin "predicted" that David Parry would be drafted by the Colts in the 5th round. He was right again.

http://forums.colts.com/topic/37752-the-what-will-happen-mock-draft-w-trade/#entry1088411

The first link is extremely impressive, I give him 100% props for that. Also, btw, I was always telling Dustin thank you for his draft info and how much it helped. He is the best draft analyst on here by far. The 2nd link he did get David Parry right, but it was in a "stupid" draft, lol. I think Dustin thought that would be a typical Grigson pick because of the Stanford connection, and the fact that he got it right in a draft that made fun of Grigson in the exact round proves that I was right about Grigson choosing him because he went to Stanford with Henry Anderson and he wanted to recreate the duo on the Colts.

[NFLfan]

The first link is extremely impressive, I give him 100% props for that. Also, btw, I was always telling Dustin thank you for his draft info and how much it helped. He is the best draft analyst on here by far. The 2nd link he did get David Parry right, but it was in a "stupid" draft, lol. I think Dustin thought that would be a typical Grigson pick because of the Stanford connection, and the fact that he got it right in a draft that made fun of Grigson in the exact round proves that I was right about Grigson choosing him because he went to Stanford with Henry Anderson and he wanted to recreate the duo on the Colts.

I agree. Dustin knows his stuff and is an asset to the forum. This board has several members who are very knowledgeable about various aspects of football (players, X's & O's, business/contracts, rules/violations, Fantasy Football, etc.). That is what I appreciate most about this board.

Regarding the second link, I knew he was being sarcastic. That is why I put "predicted" in quotes, I don't think he really believed that Grigson would draft Parry.

[Dustin]

The first link is extremely impressive, I give him 100% props for that. Also, btw, I was always telling Dustin thank you for his draft info and how much it helped. He is the best draft analyst on here by far. The 2nd link he did get David Parry right, but it was in a "stupid" draft, lol. I think Dustin thought that would be a typical Grigson pick because of the Stanford connection, and the fact that he got it right in a draft that made fun of Grigson in the exact round proves that I was right about Grigson choosing him because he went to Stanford with Henry Anderson and he wanted to recreate the duo on the Colts.

 

I agree. Dustin knows his stuff and is an asset to the forum. This board has several members who are very knowledgeable about various aspects of football (players, X's & O's, business/contracts, rules/violations, Fantasy Football, etc.). That is what I appreciate most about this board.

Regarding the second link, I knew he was being sarcastic. That is why I put "predicted" in quotes, I don't think he really believed that Grigson would draft Parry.

 

Just to chime in here. That thread is just sarcasm, but I actually did predict that Grigson would draft David Parry in the 5th round. 

 

http://forums.colts.com/topic/37051-dustins-mock-draft-10/

[Yoshinator]

Just to chime in here. That thread is just sarcasm, but I actually did predict that Grigson would draft David Parry in the 5th round. 

 

http://forums.colts.com/topic/37051-dustins-mock-draft-10/

Looks like you did, nice job!

[NFLfan]

Just to chime in here. That thread is just sarcasm, but I actually did predict that Grigson would draft David Parry in the 5th round.

http://forums.colts.com/topic/37051-dustins-mock-draft-10/

Oh, I know. It was clearly sarcasm. I was being facetious when I wrote about your "prediction" in that particular thread. I don't think anyone took you seriously.

Ah, OK. I see you did have Parry in your mock draft.

BTW, I had asked you during the draft what you thought of Danielle Hunter. I am very pleased that we drafted him. He is raw but I see him being a good player for the Vikes.

[NewColtsFan]

Remember,  these people are hi-tech nerds.

 

They don't know much -- any? -- about how to judge and grade football players.

[Dustin]

Looking at their individual grades for the draft, there's nothing that's too crazy aside from Parry being an F+ for some reason. 

[aaron11]

first pick can be fun, but going for the best scores on the site requires being totally unrealistic

 

they reward you for aggressively trading away future picks in order to take the best player on the board right now.  even if that trade would be unheard of in real life.

 

for example i traded the colts next 2 first round picks in order to move up and select kevin white at 13th overall.  they gave me an A+ for that pick...

[Briggs32]

David Parry as an F is absolutely fair. I predicted he won't make the 53, and I'm sticking to it. When we were in the chat for the draft, I was begging for us to trade up for Michael Bennett, a 2nd round defensive tackle talent that fell for what I can confidently say now, no real reason except he got lost in the shuffle. When we traded up and our pick came in, for 3 seconds the screen said DT and I thought we got Bennett. Instead we take a guy named David Parry for no other reason except he had a Stanford defensive connection with our 3rd round pick Henry Anderson. Absolute deserved F.

Considering we could have taken La'el Collins with that pick, I'd say F isn't totally unfair.

[aaron11]

Considering we could have taken La'el Collins with that pick, I'd say F isn't totally unfair.

every team was scared to draft him not just us.  it would have been nice to steal a RT in some late round, but it would have been a headache to get him signed.

[Jason_]

He may fit the 3-4, but he's nowhere near as good as Michael Bennett and 32 NFL GMs goofed, plain and simple.

 

There, fixed it for you

[Jason_]

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1871307/michael-bennettThis is one scouting report that talks about him and shows his projection. http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profiles/michael-bennett?id=2552286 Here is another with his projection. Both of these say mid to late 2nd round, 2nd to 3rd round, 2nd round pick. It also shows his strengths and weaknesses as well to give a good idea of what he is about. 

 

Without realizing it, you're proving Krunk's point.  So Draft sites gave Bennett a 2nd round great. Who cares?  32 NFL teams obviously disagree because they all passed on him.

[Jason_]

That's fair, but I think it would have come out by now. Just so you don't think I hate Grigson or something, I don't. I always enjoy his drafts, in fact, I have him as the third best drafting GM in the league behind Ozzie Newsome and Ted Thompson. Grigson is excellent in the first 3 or 4 rounds. He can do it as well as anybody. When it comes to round 5-7, however, he seems to go with comfort picks he scouted before rather than BPA on the board and adjusting to the draft of what's currently out there, even if there is a far superior talent that fell. Sometimes you have to switch gears and because he hasn't done that, our round 5-7 picks (especially rounds 6-7) have been dreadful. Newsome is the only standout. It's nitpicking because he drafts well overall, but it's frustrating as well because we could have gotten a few more starters possibly over the last 3 or 4 years by going BPA in rounds 5-7. We'll see on Parry, hopefully he turns out well.

 

Like many, you're confusing this BPA idea.  Grigson is going to go with BPA according to HIS board...not Todd Mcshay's, Mel Kiper's, Mike Mayock's and he's not going to go by cbssports.com, nfl.com or any other draft website.  Like most other NFL GM's, he's going to go by his and his scouting departments' evaluations and grading.

[Yoshinator]

Without realizing it, you're proving Krunk's point.  So Draft sites gave Bennett a 2nd round great. Who cares?  32 NFL teams obviously disagree because they all passed on him.

I didn't realize wherever a player went, he's going to always be that good, lol. I guess Richard Sherman is only a 5th round talent. It must be true since all the other gms passed on him right? Tom Brady must just be a 6th round talent. Maybe Marques Colston is just some bum WR that Drew Brees carried, I mean he has to be since the GMs passed on him til the 7th and they're always right. Tony Romo is just some undrafted bum, I guess he just wins games because of the refs cause he's on the Cowboys. An undrafted player could never be a starting qb and the gms are always right, right? My point is there are plenty of players that fall that do well in their NFL careers and when a player is rated high, usually there is a reason. He didn't fit our scheme, but a 3 round talent difference you take the risk in the 5th. GM's don't always get it right, if they did, there would be no draft steals and no real busts, because everyone would get drafted exactly where they are supposed to. Looking at a players scouting report and strengths and weaknesses really does wonders for drafting players sometimes.