Henry Anderson: What to Makes of This?!?

[NewColtsFan]

So,  on the Stanford website I visit everyday,  a friend posted this a short while ago...

 

From Pro Football Focus....    they've graded prospects and they've got Anderson as the NINTH (9th) best prospect overall.     Holy Cow!!

 

This was found over on Monday Morning Quarterback:

 

 

PFF’s stated purpose is to grade the performance of every NFL player on every snap he plays, and nearly half the teams in the NFL have hired the site to do special-project work for them. Last year the site began to do the same work for major-college teams. NBC says PFF analysts graded all plays for each draft-eligible player in the 2014 season and graded the players the way they’d grade NFL players. On this show the PFF analysts will compare the pass-releases of Marcus Mariota and Jameis Winston to established NFL stars like Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers. Also, pass-rush will be measured differently for the college players than just by sacks and pressures; a new PFF metric will show how—in the site’s view—Stanford defensive end Henry Anderson ought to be a clear first-round pick because of how consistently he gets pressure on the passer. Much of the analysis on the show will be done by the men who have brought PFF to life, including founder Neil Hornsby, a native of England who fell in love with football watching it on Sunday nights in Britain in the Dan Marino years.

Two interesting Collinsworth observations after some draft study. One: “When I started watching tape on the quarterbacks, I was 100 percent convinced Winston was the better player. As every day goes by, in my mind, Mariota gets a little closer.” Two: “The best player in the draft, to me, is Dante Fowler. He can rush the passer from anywhere. I’ve seen him hurdle linemen like [Olympic hurdler] Skeets Nehemiah. And he covers pretty well too.”

[danlhart87]

Hes gonna be a BEAST in the NFL! Hope Colts get him.

[Superman]

http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/cfb/53780/325/nfl-draft-rankings-top-200

 

Anderson at #12 overall.

[Gavin]

Hmm don't know why I double posted

[Gavin]

Anderson is a one dimensional rotational pass rusher right now who is not strong enough to hold in run contain...Certainly not the 9th best player in the draft. That's just absurd talk to me, I'd take him in the 4th in a rotational role as a 3 Tech

[Dustin]

Anderson is very good. I think in my "what I would do" first round mock I had him going to the Browns at 12. He won't go that high obviously, but he'll outplay his draft position.

[Horse Shoe Heaven]

I would draft him just not in the first or second round!

[Dustin]

I would draft him just not in the first or second round!

Why not?

[Track Guy]

If he's there at 61 I'd be pumped. Never understood why some viewed him as a 4th rounder.

[Gavin]

If he's there at 61 I'd be pumped. Never understood why some viewed him as a 4th rounder.

Because he is purely at this point a 3 Tech rotational D Lineman who is not strong enough in the lower body to hold up in run contain and I think better players can be had in the first 3 rounds who I think have a higher chance of becoming starters at some point

[Horse Shoe Heaven]

Why not?

I  think he is a 3rd rounder guy myself, I think the kid from Oregon is a better player.

[danlhart87]

Armstead?

Something about him screams BUST to me

[Dustin]

I think he is a 3rd rounder guy myself, I think the kid from Oregon is a better player.

But why?

[ColtsBlueFL]

Because he is purely at this point a 3 Tech rotational D Lineman who is not strong enough in the lower body to hold up in run contain and I think better players can be had in the first 3 rounds who I think have a higher chance of becoming starters at some point

 

I'd heard similar. So I went and checked.  Seems he (not an every down) with weaknesses (gets tired, dominated when tall guy doesn't keep his pads low...)  So Ilooke further...  translates to a 5 tech LDE, but not athletic or explosive enough to carry that spot, and too slow of foot to man the 3/4 OLB role. Limited range in run game chase.

 

So when I hear about potential round 1 draft picks, my question is, what position does he play and who loses their job?  Looked up some rankings-

 

Todd McShay (Scouts Inc)  #83 overall  - #10 ranked DE

Mike Mayock  (NFLN)   #86 overall  Not in top 5 in either DE or DT

CBS Sports   (NFLDraftScout)  #89 overall

WalterFootball    #13 at DE/DT

 

Way too much consistency by people who should know rank him as solid 3rd rounder.  I think I'll take some of what they say seriously.  I actually think we as fans tend to overrate all of the draft prospects to some degree.  And when we see one we like, we tend to drive that overboard.  I know I tend too do so.

[Dustin]

I'd heard similar. So I went and checked. Seems he (not an every down) with weaknesses (gets tired, dominated when tall guy doesn't keep his pads low...) So Ilooke further... translates to a 5 tech LDE, but not athletic or explosive enough to carry that spot, and too slow of foot to man the 3/4 OLB role. Limited range in run game chase.

So when I hear about potential round 1 draft picks, my question is, what position does he play and who loses their job? Looked up some rankings-

Todd McShay (Scouts Inc) #83 overall - #10 ranked DE

Mike Mayock (NFLN) #86 overall Not in top 5 in either DE or DT

CBS Sports (NFLDraftScout) #89 overall

WalterFootball #13 at DE/DT

Way too much consistency by people who should know rank him as solid 3rd rounder. I think I'll take some of what they say seriously. I actually think we as fans tend to overrate all of the draft prospects to some degree. And when we see one we like, we tend to drive that overboard. I know I tend too do so.

You play him at 3-tech and watch him wreak havoc on the QB.

[ColtsBlueFL]

You play him at 3-tech and watch him wreak havoc on the QB.

 

I like the fact you watch some tape and make up your mind.  I didn't have time this year.  So when I read this-

 

"Slender legs, tight hips and boring feet. Feet will stall at contact when squared up against the run. Initial punch by an offensive lineman will jostle him. Lacks power to play inside. On the ground far too often. Must improve hand usage as pass rusher. Can be blocked by tight ends. Benefited from team-oriented defensive scheme. Doesn't gain much ground with initial steps as pass rusher. Relies on hustle sacks and lacks counter moves.

 

Data driven teams will be intrigued by Anderson's stuffs, impact tackles and total pressures, but the tape doesn't validate his potential to produce these numbers on the pro level. The body type screams 3-4 defensive end if he can bulk up and add power, but he might lack the balance and toughness to make it there. Anderson might just be a "tweener" without a clear NFL position fit."

 

Anyone with that type writeup does not get a round 1 grade in my book either.  This writeup was from Mike Mayock.

 

I become a skeptic.  and when I see 3 or 4 fairly reputable and independent college player scouting sites essentially come up to the same overall ranking, I'm buying in. But I won't knock you for believing their might be something others are missing. It happens, at times.  But Anderson will now have to prove it on the grass once he gets drafted. I'm officially an adopted resident of Missouri on him now,  Show me.

[ztboiler]

Because he is purely at this point a 3 Tech rotational D Lineman who is not strong enough in the lower body to hold up in run contain and I think better players can be had in the first 3 rounds who I think have a higher chance of becoming starters at some point

We play so much nickel that a 3 Tech nickel rusher who is productive is easily worth a 2...who cares if he can't play the run this year or ever.  Get me 6 sacks from the inside and consistent disruption and our defense is a whole different animal.

[Dustin]

I like the afct you watch some tape and make up your mind.  I didn't have time this year.  So when I read this-

 

"Slender legs, tight hips and boring feet. Feet will stall at contact when squared up against the run. Initial punch by an offensive lineman will jostle him. Lacks power to play inside. On the ground far too often. Must improve hand usage as pass rusher. Can be blocked by tight ends. Benefited from team-oriented defensive scheme. Doesn't gain much ground with initial steps as pass rusher. Relies on hustle sacks and lacks counter moves.

 

Data driven teams will be intrigued by Anderson's stuffs, impact tackles and total pressures, but the tape doesn't validate his potential to produce these numbers on the pro level. The body type screams 3-4 defensive end if he can bulk up and add power, but he might lack the balance and toughness to make it there. Anderson might just be a "tweener" without a clear NFL position fit."

 

Anyone with that type writeup does not get a round 1 grade in my book either.  This writeup was from Mike Mayock.

 

I become a skeptic.  and when I see 3 or 4 fairly reputable and independent college player scouting sites essentially come up to the same overall ranking, I'm buying in. But I won't knock you for believing their might be something others are missing. It happens, at times.  But Anderson will now have to prove it on the grass once he gets drafted. I'm officially an adopted resident of Missouri on him now,  Show me.

 

Anderson is very much a finesse player with questions about how his technique will translate into the NFL. Stanford coaches up their defensive lineman in such a way that they sacrifice balance and base power for more quickness as to penetrate the backfield. 

 

I agree with the lack of power part, but again, If I'm drafting Anderson, i'm not going to be playing him as a two-gap space eater, he's going to be shooting gaps every play. Hand usage and initial quickness are both exceptional. 

 

As much as people talk about Armstead's upside, Anderson is the same size and performed better at virtually every combine drill.

 

It will be interesting to see where he goes. 

[Gavin]

We play so much nickel that a 3 Tech nickel rusher who is productive is easily worth a 2...who cares if he can't play the run this year or ever.  Get me 6 sacks from the inside and consistent disruption and our defense is a whole different animal.

Or well coached teams like the Pats will just see we are in Nickel and that he is in the game and he will just get mauled over....Or they will do exactly what they did to Redding and Francois often and that's recognize those two players are undisciplined in there gap integrity and tend to shoot upfield quite often without reading where the ball is (like Anderson does at times) and they will simply take him the way he wants to go opening up a big lane for the RB to run right through...Again I like Anderson...Im all for drafting him but I'd take Shelton, Phillips, Goldman before him and probably Davis...Along with other players at other positions.

[SDakColts]

I would be happy if we picked him up in the 2nd round. He has the production, he has the athleticism it was shown at the combine, and he is a interior pass rushing specialist which is exactly what we need.

[Superman]

As much as people talk about Armstead's upside, Anderson is the same size and performed better at virtually every combine drill

And looks twice as good on tape.

ColtsBlueFL, if you don't watch anyone else, watch Anderson. Seriously. I liked him immediately.

[ztboiler]

Or well coached teams like the Pats will just see we are in Nickel and that he is in the game and he will just get mauled over....Or they will do exactly what they did to Redding and Francois often and that's recognize those two players are undisciplined in there gap integrity and tend to shoot upfield quite often without reading where the ball is (like Anderson does at times) and they will simply take him the way he wants to go opening up a big lane for the RB to run right through...Again I like Anderson...Im all for drafting him but I'd take Shelton, Phillips, Goldman before him and probably Davis...Along with other players at other positions.

In a vacuum, everything you just said makes sense.  In reality, with all the variables of an NFL game and passing situations, it doesn't play out with that kind of exposure to the point where a team can simply run the ball on 3rd and 8 just because we have a weak run defender in as a pass rusher.

[Gavin]

In a vacuum, everything you just said makes sense.  In reality, with all the variables of an NFL game and passing situations, it doesn't play out with that kind of exposure to the point where a team can simply run the ball on 3rd and 8 just because we have a weak run defender in as a pass rusher.

It happened for years with Dwight Freeney in the 43(I know different scheme but still same mindsets with the three and that's attack the QB and to hell with the run or get penetration without reading where the ball is)........It happened repeatedly against NE with Redding and Francois (Not saying they were the biggest factor but they were certainly one of them)

 

Think about it.....A gap penetrator in the game in Nickel whos been charging upfield repeatedly not reading the ball....3rd and 8...Im not saying he would never be able to stop the run...That would be extreme of course and sensationalism......But I'd like the chances of designing a play to expose his gap penetration without reading the play mentality

[ztboiler]

It happened for years with Dwight Freeney in the 43(I know different scheme but still same mindsets with the three and that's attack the QB and to hell with the run or get penetration without reading where the ball is)........It happened repeatedly against NE with Redding and Francois (Not saying they were the biggest factor but they were certainly one of them)

 

Think about it.....A gap penetrator in the game in Nickel whos been charging upfield repeatedly not reading the ball....3rd and 8...Im not saying he would never be able to stop the run...That would be extreme of course and sensationalism......But I'd like the chances of designing a play to expose his gap penetration without reading the play mentality

I understand your point about proposed limitations Anderson may have at the next level, but let's not marginalize our conversation to the incoherent, and we reached that point just now.  

 

To the above.  No, what happened for years with D Free on 3rd and 8 is that we got off the field.  That was never the problem, it worked precisely as designed.  

 

The problem you refer to with the Colts old scheme, and where we lost coherency in the conversation, is that D Free was leaving the edge gaping wide on run downs regardless of circumstance.  It was a scheme without edge discipline against the run, or at the very least a tough cover for the LB trying to fill the gaping vacancy D Free or Mathis would leave.  Our gashing was well documented, but has precisely zero to do with problems in nickel D in that scheme or any other scheme.

 

The nickel problems you might be referring to, getting back to schematic specifics, is when the Pats or other teams put personnel on the field where we play nickel on early downs and then run the ball against mismatches....nobody said you have to leave a bad run defender on the field in those looks.  

 

There are enough true passing situations every game to employ an inside pass rush specialist - especially if you are ahead in the second half.  

 

Make your concerns schematically specific, and you have a strong point about vulnerabilities with Anderson, but then so does the counterpoint.

[ColtsBlueFL]

And looks twice as good on tape.

ColtsBlueFL, if you don't watch anyone else, watch Anderson. Seriously. I liked him immediately.

 

I don't have game tape of Stanford (I live in Gator, FSU, and Hurricane territory), and I don't watch edited Youtube clips...

 

I read-

 

"He plays hard like Trent Murphy did at Stanford, but Murphy was a better athlete. He's not explosive enough to be a reliable pass rusher and I don't see him as a run stuffer." -- Pac 12 regional scout"

 

"Slender legs, tight hips and boring feet. Feet will stall at contact when squared up against the run. Initial punch by an offensive lineman will jostle him. Lacks power to play inside. On the ground far too often. Must improve hand usage as pass rusher. Can be blocked by tight ends. Benefited from team-oriented defensive scheme. Doesn't gain much ground with initial steps as pass rusher. Relies on hustle sacks and lacks counter moves."

 

"His real struggles generate from his lack of lower body strength.  Anderson does not have great change of direction skills with his feet coming to a complete stop before making his next move.  Anderson has a decent power rush move, but lacks any secondary pass rush moves to counter with if that fails.  He lacks a great burst at the snap and is not going to beat you with a speed move on the edge.  I also noticed Anderson on the ground too often for my liking and he must learn to play with better balance.  Anderson must learn to play with more consistent leverage as well."

 

• Major balance issues; spends way too much time on the ground
• Lower body strength is lacking; could be cause of balance issues
• Stiff hips; methodical mover. Slow to re-direct and change directions
• Lacks the speed (5.03) to be a consistent edge rusher
• Missed six games in 2013 with a knee injury
• High-cut in the open field and has a tough time breaking down to finish plays
• Limited upside; potential pretty well maxed out

I get that people see good things about him, but there is a lot of items that aren't glowing as well. A lot of consistent negative issues from various sources.  It's a red flag, IMO. I just do not believe he will prove to be as good at the NFL level as many think.  He will give it 110% effort trying though...

[wig]

I don't have game tape of Stanford (I live in Gator, FSU, and Hurricane territory), and I don't watch edited Youtube clips...

 

I read-

 

"He plays hard like Trent Murphy did at Stanford, but Murphy was a better athlete. He's not explosive enough to be a reliable pass rusher and I don't see him as a run stuffer." -- Pac 12 regional scout"

 

"Slender legs, tight hips and boring feet. Feet will stall at contact when squared up against the run. Initial punch by an offensive lineman will jostle him. Lacks power to play inside. On the ground far too often. Must improve hand usage as pass rusher. Can be blocked by tight ends. Benefited from team-oriented defensive scheme. Doesn't gain much ground with initial steps as pass rusher. Relies on hustle sacks and lacks counter moves."

 

"His real struggles generate from his lack of lower body strength.  Anderson does not have great change of direction skills with his feet coming to a complete stop before making his next move.  Anderson has a decent power rush move, but lacks any secondary pass rush moves to counter with if that fails.  He lacks a great burst at the snap and is not going to beat you with a speed move on the edge.  I also noticed Anderson on the ground too often for my liking and he must learn to play with better balance.  Anderson must learn to play with more consistent leverage as well."

 

• Major balance issues; spends way too much time on the ground
• Lower body strength is lacking; could be cause of balance issues
• Stiff hips; methodical mover. Slow to re-direct and change directions
• Lacks the speed (5.03) to be a consistent edge rusher
• Missed six games in 2013 with a knee injury
• High-cut in the open field and has a tough time breaking down to finish plays
• Limited upside; potential pretty well maxed out

I get that people see good things about him, but there is a lot of items that aren't glowing as well. A lot of consistent negative issues from various sources.  It's a red flag, IMO. I just do not believe he will prove to be as good at the NFL level as many think.  He will give it 110% effort trying though...

 

 

Whoever wrote this is an *, comparing him to an edge rusher and then saying he's too slow to be an edge rusher.  Uh, duh, but what does that have to do with anything?

[Superman]

I don't have game tape of Stanford (I live in Gator, FSU, and Hurricane territory), and I don't watch edited Youtube clips...

I don't know what you have against edited Youtube clips, but you can find Stanford games if you want. I watched Stanford v Oregon and paid attention to a lot of players, and Anderson well outplayed Armstead. Either way, if you were to watch a lowly clip of Anderson, you'd be itching to watch more.

I've read the stuff you've read about him. I can obviously nitpick here and there, but it's not really important to me to tear apart someone else's scouting report. I just think he's much better than that, and while he has some issues, if you can bring yourself to suffer through some clips of him, you would see why so many people like him.

[3nk1du]

Armstead is ranked higher because his ceiling but Anderson could be a good starter for many 3-4 teams, i think we can get him if we trade up on the 3rd.

[ColtsBlueFL]

I don't know what you have against edited Youtube clips, but you can find Stanford games if you want. I watched Stanford v Oregon and paid attention to a lot of players, and Anderson well outplayed Armstead. Either way, if you were to watch a lowly clip of Anderson, you'd be itching to watch more.

I've read the stuff you've read about him. I can obviously nitpick here and there, but it's not really important to me to tear apart someone else's scouting report. I just think he's much better than that, and while he has some issues, if you can bring yourself to suffer through some clips of him, you would see why so many people like him.

 

I'm sure I'll see things I like on YouTube.  What I'd like is to sit down with Mike Mayock in a film room and ask him 'why' Anderson's "...  tape doesn't validate his potential to produce these numbers on the pro level."

 

So what round?  I keep seeing solid round 3 grade from the many sources, and I'd be happy with that.  Not round 1.  And I would need to see lack of decent alternatives on the board at pick 63.  But possible.  And, once on board, who loses their starting job?  And someone on the 53 man loses his roster slot, who would that be?

 

OK, I watched some of this tape. Can someone with more knowledge than me (pretty much everyone... LOL) in film watching tell me where to look that I could see what they see?  I'm tarnished by reading the reports, but I see what is in the 4 or 5 reports that all say the same thing.  And it appears Stanford used him in about every tech position possible too!  The tried to make him versatile, for certain.

 

http://draftbreakdown.com/video/henry-anderson-vs-utah-2014/

[Defjamz26]

This is interesting. Personally I think Carl Davis is very I'd you're talking a base 3-4 DE. He penetrated the back field consistently in college and put on a clinic at the senior bowl.

I wouldn't draft Anderson before Carl Davis....unless you want more pass rush over run stopping ability.

[Gavin]

I'm sure I'll see things I like on YouTube.  What I'd like is to sit down with Mike Mayock in a film room and ask him 'why' Anderson's "...  tape doesn't validate his potential to produce these numbers on the pro level."

 

So what round?  I keep seeing solid round 3 grade from the many sources, and I'd be happy with that.  Not round 1.  And I would need to see lack of decent alternatives on the board at pick 63.  But possible.  And, once on board, who loses their starting job?  And someone on the 53 man loses his roster slot, who would that be?

 

OK, I watched some of this tape. Can someone with more knowledge than me (pretty much everyone... LOL) in film watching tell me where to look that I could see what they see?  I'm tarnished by reading the reports, but I see what is in the 4 or 5 reports that all say the same thing.  And it appears Standard used him in about every tech position possible too!  The tried to make him versatile, for certain.

 

http://draftbreakdown.com/video/henry-anderson-vs-utah-2014/

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profiles/henry-anderson?id=2552272

 

Weaknesses

Slender legs, tight hips and boring feet. Feet will stall at contact when squared up against the run. Initial punch by an offensive lineman will jostle him. Lacks power to play inside. On the ground far too often. Must improve hand usage as pass rusher. Can be blocked by tight ends. Benefited from team-oriented defensive scheme. Doesn't gain much ground with initial steps as pass rusher. Relies on hustle sacks and lacks counter moves.

 

 

 

If you clock on the square down at the bottom right corner you get a full screen view and can see that he has skinny legs.

 

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Handled easily by one on one block when O Lineman gets ahold of him

 

 

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Will sometimes shoot gaps without reading the play

 

I like him but I think better players will be available in the first 3 rounds when we pick

[Superman]

I'm sure I'll see things I like on YouTube.  What I'd like is to sit down with Mike Mayock in a film room and ask him 'why' Anderson's "...  tape doesn't validate his potential to produce these numbers on the pro level."

 

So what round?  I keep seeing solid round 3 grade from the many sources, and I'd be happy with that.  Not round 1.  And I would need to see lack of decent alternatives on the board at pick 63.  But possible.  And, once on board, who loses their starting job?  And someone on the 53 man loses his roster slot, who would that be?

 

OK, I watched some of this tape. Can someone with more knowledge than me (pretty much everyone... LOL) in film watching tell me where to look that I could see what they see?  I'm tarnished by reading the reports, but I see what is in the 4 or 5 reports that all say the same thing.  And it appears Standard used him in about every tech position possible too!  The tried to make him versatile, for certain.

 

http://draftbreakdown.com/video/henry-anderson-vs-utah-2014/

 

Yeah, I don't think he's a first round pick. I definitely don't think he's the 9th or 12th best player in the draft. But if we took him at the end of the second, I'd be okay with that. If he lasted to the end of the third, I'd consider him a steal.

 

As far as who loses their job, well, whoever doesn't earn it in camp. I think Anderson has something to him, and if that meant that someone like Kerr or Hughes or Quarles isn't on the final roster, well, sorry. 

 

As you mentioned, he has position flexibility. He gets off quickly, he can shoot gaps and penetrate, he has a variety of pass rush moves, uses his hands well, etc. And unlike quite a few of the highly rated DL in this draft, there are no questions about his motor or stamina. Some question his power and strength, but to me, it looks like balance and leverage, which are both coachable. The question is whether he'd lose his explosiveness if he's playing with a better base.

 

He's not perfect, but a mostly film-based outlet like PFF to give him a really strong grade isn't surprising at all. He's unmistakable whenever you watch Stanford play.

[krunk]

This is interesting. Personally I think Carl Davis is very I'd you're talking a base 3-4 DE. He penetrated the back field consistently in college and put on a clinic at the senior bowl.

I wouldn't draft Anderson before Carl Davis....unless you want more pass rush over run stopping ability.

 

I keep getting this gut feeling that Davis is the one who is going to be available when we pick.  Goldman I think will be gone.

[Valpo2004]

I keep getting this gut feeling that Davis is the one who is going to be available when we pick.  Goldman I think will be gone.

 

Would love to see Carl Davis with the Colts.  

[Defjamz26]

Would love to see Carl Davis with the Colts.  

He is a complete disruptor. I wouldn't be upset if the Colts reached a little for him in round 1. It's a shame Pagano wouldn't let him pay NT though. But he'd be a dominant 3-4 end that would push Langford for the starting role.

[krunk]

_{I think Davis could play any one of those positions well in the 3-4 front, but I think DE would be his best spot. 3 or 5 technique.  He'd do well at DT in a 4-3 too}

[ColtsBlueFL]

Yeah, I don't think he's a first round pick. I definitely don't think he's the 9th or 12th best player in the draft. But if we took him at the end of the second, I'd be okay with that. If he lasted to the end of the third, I'd consider him a steal.

 

As far as who loses their job, well, whoever doesn't earn it in camp. I think Anderson has something to him, and if that meant that someone like Kerr or Hughes or Quarles isn't on the final roster, well, sorry. 

 

As you mentioned, he has position flexibility. He gets off quickly, he can shoot gaps and penetrate, he has a variety of pass rush moves, uses his hands well, etc. And unlike quite a few of the highly rated DL in this draft, there are no questions about his motor or stamina. Some question his power and strength, but to me, it looks like balance and leverage, which are both coachable. The question is whether he'd lose his explosiveness if he's playing with a better base.

 

He's not perfect, but a mostly film-based outlet like PFF to give him a really strong grade isn't surprising at all. He's unmistakable whenever you watch Stanford play.

 

OK I'm in with this.  Count me on that bandwagon. And if he knocks off one of those guys from the 53 in camp, he made our team better.  That's not a bad thing at all. 

[Valpo2004]

He is a complete disruptor. I wouldn't be upset if the Colts reached a little for him in round 1. It's a shame Pagano wouldn't let him pay NT though. But he'd be a dominant 3-4 end that would push Langford for the starting role.

 

Depending on how he does we could move him around a little like JJ Watt.  Not saying that he's gonna reach Watt's level or anything.

[Horse Shoe Heaven]

But why?

Hes bigger and he looks more athletic, I think he could even carry more weight if he wanted. Anderson might be maxed out weight wise and he doesn't play the run as well IMO? 

[Horse Shoe Heaven]

_{I think Davis could play any one of those positions well in the 3-4 front, but I think DE would be his best spot. 3 or 5 technique.  He'd do well at DT in a 4-3 too}

Davis is the guy I really want to. Very solid pick!