Carl Davis - DT/DE

[BProland85]

I'm starting to really like Davis as a potential pick in the 2nd round for the Colts. He is a great run stopper, and has some pass rush ability. He could alternate with Jones and Langford at DE, and could also play NT on passing downs.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUQdoFv2hCE

[danlhart87]

I would take him in 1st

[danlhart87]

Hes not lasting to 61

[That Guy]

I think everyone on this forum would love to get him in with our second round pick. The problem is that it's unlikely that he'll last until our secound round pick. If the Colts want him, Grigson would need to use our first round pick to get him (at 29 or trade back to the top of the second round where he's likely to go).

That's a great highlight video.

[RealityIsLuck]

I like Davis but I feel like he's overrated on this board. I think this because his 2 draft breakdown tapes (popular scouting site) are absolute great tapes. But many people fail to acknowledge that he is a risk inconsistent on or off player, and those tapes where during his 'on' spree's. I would like him, yes but not as the first player taken in a draft class. If he's not going to be there at 61, then trade up into the second, I just don't like him as a headliner of a draft class. Too risky.

[SDakColts]

He is inconsistent at times, but when he is on he is on. He has the talent it flashes more often than not. It isn't that different from a lot of the other D-Linemen that will be available at 29. All of them are inconsistent, but show a lot of upside as well from Phillips, Davis, Goldman, and Armstead. I think Davis shows just as much if not more than any of the others that will be available at 29. I think he should be heavily considered at 29.

[NewColtsFan]

I like Davis but I feel like he's overrated on this board. I think this because his 2 draft breakdown tapes (popular scouting site) are absolute great tapes. But many people fail to acknowledge that he is a risk inconsistent on or off player, and those tapes where during his 'on' spree's. I would like him, yes but not as the first player taken in a draft class. If he's not going to be there at 61, then trade up into the second, I just don't like him as a headliner of a draft class. Too risky.

 

The problem is almost anyone who we'd take at 29 has warts....    there will be few if any players at 29 who are clean polished players without flaws.

 

So, the question becomes are a players flaws ones that can be corrected by coaching and team culture, or are they just not going to get better and you have to live with them,  or not because you don't take them.

 

This where a front office really earns its money....    knowing who to take and who to avoid....

[Gavin]

I'd go with Trinca-Pasat or Derrick Lott later I think

[Doctor Mad]

Davis would be a great pick at top of round 2. Maybe we trade down from #29 for a high roud2 and a round 4 then we grab Davis with the round 2 selection. This scenario gives us player we want and an extra pick. What about this?

[Gavin]

There is absolutely no question he could be a dominant power player...That's not my concern, I also know he could hold up well in a rotational role at Nose ....But there is a lack of productivity there for the power player he clearly is, Some of it is play recognition at times...He will sometimes not read the play and blow a O Lineman back and leaving a hole for the rb to run right through.....I wonder if he has a stamina problem...Not so bad since he would likely be used in a rotation...But if that's the case I don't see him being a dominant player in a rotational role because of the limited snaps....If that's the case I'd rather get a wr or someone at another position whos graded out as a first round pick who would have more of an impact

That's the ultimate question for me...What percentage of his teams snaps did he take...For that matter what percentage of Florida States defensive snaps did Goldman take...That's really important, That CAN(But doesn't necessarily) give a rough idea of how many snaps these guys could handle in the immediate future...Neither teams website says

[theanarchist]

I like Davis but I feel like he's overrated on this board. I think this because his 2 draft breakdown tapes (popular scouting site) are absolute great tapes. But many people fail to acknowledge that he is a risk inconsistent on or off player, and those tapes where during his 'on' spree's. I would like him, yes but not as the first player taken in a draft class. If he's not going to be there at 61, then trade up into the second, I just don't like him as a headliner of a draft class. Too risky.

I don't think he's risky. Just because you don't like him as the "head of the draft class" doesn't mean we couldn't land him at a place of value. Like others mentioned, trade back a few spots, pick up another pick, take Davis and keep stocking the shelves with the pick you obtained by trading back. Of course there are a lot of variables and no guarantee that it would work. But, I think by late 1st to early 2nd round there are no true "safe bets" so you have to go with what you feel is best and pull the trigger.

[theanarchist]

There is absolutely no question he could be a dominant power player...That's not my concern, I also know he could hold up well in a rotational role at Nose ....But there is a lack of productivity there for the power player he clearly is, Some of it is play recognition at times...He will sometimes not read the play and blow a O Lineman back and leaving a hole for the rb to run right through.....I wonder if he has a stamina problem...Not so bad since he would likely be used in a rotation...But if that's the case I don't see him being a dominant player in a rotational role because of the limited snaps....If that's the case I'd rather get a wr or someone at another position whos graded out as a first round pick who would have more of an impact

That's the ultimate question for me...What percentage of his teams snaps did he take...For that matter what percentage of Florida States defensive snaps did Goldman take...That's really important, That CAN(But doesn't necessarily) give a rough idea of how many snaps these guys could handle in the immediate future...Neither teams website says

Davis was probably a victim of Iowa's offensive futility. Im a Hawk fan. Iowa's offense was very inconsistent and was very poor at sustaining drives and many many times put their defense back on the field with quick 3 and outs, short rest and the defense as a whole would get gassed.