Don't be surprised if the Colts traded Werner....

[Indeee]

I don't know for who, with who or for what but I have an eerie feeling they are going to try to move him.

They might not be successful and we might not even hear about it, but something's telling me they are/will try regardless of how much sense it wouldn't seem to make.

 
 

[Colts_Fan12]

Yeah I don't think so

[SteelCityColt]

Seems legit... I totally saw the glass move.

[BOTT]

Thanks Miss Cleo

[MrNLM]

Can you contact my dead brother-in-law and tell him Peyton Manning plays for the Broncos now?

 

He would roll over in his grave and I know how much he hates sleeping on his back...

[HtownColt]

Add 12-15 pounds and play DE

[Coffeedrinker]

I don't know for who, with who or for what but I have an eerie feeling they are going to try to move him.

They might not be successful and we might not even hear about it, but something's telling me they are/will try regardless of how much sense it wouldn't seem to make.

 

 

So is it an eerie feeling or is there something telling you?  Just trying to figure out what type of psychic you are claiming to be.

 

And then in the title you stated "traded" as if it happened in the past.  So are you a psychic or are you a time traveler?

[New Zealands #1 Colts Fan]

I hope we trade him for Kiko Alonso or Shady Mccoy.............. oh wait

[John Dee]

It would be stupid to just give up on Bjorn now...   he has not played "AMERICAN" football for very long.      A little patience is all he needs.    Werner will be ok JMO>>>>> ...     I believe this..

 

All that said ...    I bet Grigs really wishes he could do a "do over" from the get go.....     out side of the Luck draft.     He will figure it out.

[John Dee]

You are on to something here...    I never envisioned Bjorn as an "OLB" ...     He is simpley out of position. 

 

Add 12-15 pounds and play DE

[COLTS449]

You might want to listen to this guy. He predicted a Shady McCoy trade just the other day. LOL.

[Indeee]

You might want to listen to this guy. He predicted a Shady McCoy trade just the other day. LOL.

That is correct. Just got the wrong team.. Ha!!

[NewColtsFan]

It would be stupid to just give up on Bjorn now...   he has not played "AMERICAN" football for very long.      A little patience is all he needs.    Werner will be ok JMO>>>>> ...     I believe this..

 

All that said ...    I bet Grigs really wishes he could do a "do over" from the get go.....     out side of the Luck draft.     He will figure it out.

 

The jury is still out on the 13 draft....

 

But the 14 draft is a hit...      Mewhort,  Moncrief,  Newsome with picks 2/3/5.

 

That feels like a very good draft to me.    You were expecting better?   

[crazycolt1]

I had a vision that AP was going to be traded to the Colts for 5th round pick and the Vikings were going to pay his salary just to get rid of him. Oh, wait. Sorry, too many meds taken by mistake.

[ColtJax]

People need to lay off of Werner a bit, a lot in fact. He only played 2 years of HS ball, went to FSU and played DE where he was a SSDE and did great. Moved to LB, a position he never played even in HS and hasn't been bad at all. He's a sure tackler and doesn't take plays off. At FSU he got up to 280 pounds of pure German muscle and really dominated, I'd like to see him do that with the Colts..

[HtownColt]

You are on to something here... I never envisioned Bjorn as an "OLB" ... He is simpley out of position.

I'm just saying maybe he can be something like Pernell McPhee and play both DE and OLB with Pagano.

[Defjamz26]

People need to lay off of Werner a bit, a lot in fact. He only played 2 years of HS ball, went to FSU and played DE where he was a SSDE and did great. Moved to LB, a position he never played even in HS and hasn't been bad at all. He's a sure tackler and doesn't take plays off. At FSU he got up to 280 pounds of pure German muscle and really dominated, I'd like to see him do that with the Colts..

 

You won't see him do that though. He's an OLB meaning the most he'll ever be is like 260 lbs. He'll be expected to win with speed off the edge as a Sam OLB, which he doesn't appear to have. He's not athletic, and even worse he's out of position.

[NewColtsFan]

Add 12-15 pounds and play DE

 

Werner is right around 260 now.    To play DE in our system he'd have to gain 25 pounds.

 

275 is too small for a 3-4 DE.      Need at least 285 and even that would make him smallish....

[HtownColt]

Werner is right around 260 now. To play DE in our system he'd have to gain 25 pounds.

275 is too small for a 3-4 DE. Need at least 285 and even that would make him smallish....

I don't know why I thought he was 266, that's why I said 12-15 to get to 280lbs and play both DE and OLB like Pernell McPhee did when he was with Pagano. McPhee was like 275-280lbs at that time

[CanuckColt]

Ha, ha, ha!

Leave Werner alone...he is gonna stay and play OLB as best he can.

[Coffeedrinker]

It would be stupid to just give up on Bjorn now...   he has not played "AMERICAN" football for very long.      A little patience is all he needs.    Werner will be ok JMO>>>>> ...     I believe this..

 

All that said ...    I bet Grigs really wishes he could do a "do over" from the get go.....     out side of the Luck draft.     He will figure it out.

I think many people thought Werner was drafted to replace Mathis... and he has temporarily because of suspension/injury.  But I think Werner was drafted to replaced Walden... after a couple of year (of learning the NFL game) or in a pinch if Walden didn't work out or if he got injured.

[Gavin]

I doubt Werner gets traded,,,But the Jerry Hughes trade surprised me to, Maybe Grigsons patience has worn very thin with Werner....I don't see him traded

[NewColtsFan]

I doubt Werner gets traded,,,But the Jerry Hughes trade surprised me to, Maybe Grigsons patience has worn very thin with Werner....I don't see him traded

 

The Jerry Hughes trade surprised you?     Really?      Seriously?

 

He had been with the team 3-4 years and had done very little....    and you were surprised?

 

Why?

 

Please don't tell me you saw him turning into a 10-sack a year guy......

[Superman]

I think many people thought Werner was drafted to replace Mathis... and he has temporarily because of suspension/injury.  But I think Werner was drafted to replaced Walden... after a couple of year (of learning the NFL game) or in a pinch if Walden didn't work out or if he got injured.

 

They said in 2013 that they wanted him to back up Mathis at Rush. I've always assumed that the expectation was that he'd be a Rush long term. And he's a first rounder; you don't typically draft a 3-4 Sam in the first round, you draft a pass rusher in the first round.

 

At this point, I think his best projection is definitely Sam, but I don't think they drafted him to play Sam. Maybe to be an interchangeable piece, but if they eyed him as a Sam and still took him in the first, I'd call that poor decision-making.

[NewColtsFan]

They said in 2013 that they wanted him to back up Mathis at Rush. I've always assumed that the expectation was that he'd be a Rush long term. And he's a first rounder; you don't typically draft a 3-4 Sam in the first round, you draft a pass rusher in the first round.

 

At this point, I think his best projection is definitely Sam, but I don't think they drafted him to play Sam. Maybe to be an interchangeable piece, but if they eyed him as a Sam and still took him in the first, I'd call that poor decision-making.

 

I think we drafted Bjorn to be a Will,  but I think he's shown himself to be a Sam.

 

Fortunately for the Colts,  Newsome has shown himself to be a Will -- and hopefully a very good one.

 

If Bjorn winds up eventually replacing Walden while improving each year as he becomes more familiar with the OLB position,  I'd be OK with that.

 

While Bjorn is likely not going to live up to being a 1st round pick,  it appears that Newsome will more than live up to being a 5th round pick.

 

Sometimes these things can balance themselves out.

[Gavin]

The Jerry Hughes trade surprised you?     Really?      Seriously?

 

He had been with the team 3-4 years and had done very little....    and you were surprised?

 

Why?

 

Please don't tell me you saw him turning into a 10-sack a year guy......

3 years into his rookie contract......Its not a common occurrence for a team to trade a player without at least letting him finish off his rookie contract(which for my money had nothing to do with performance on the field but attitude during games and probably behind the scenes)...No matter if its a new GM or not....Unless maybe to replace a QB and bring in the one they want. He also had done very little because he played very little....as to be expected playing behind Mathis and Freeney at that time...Obviously no reason to take either of them off the field for a very raw young player. As to what I saw him doing in the future and the numbers I saw him putting up.......I will just say that watching him at TCU the raw talent was clearly visible (elite acceleration off the ball unlike any I have seen with the exception of Vic Beasley and Shane Ray since and a young Freeney and Mathis)..The potential was there to put up big numbers if he got time on the field to put what he learned to use...He got that his last year with the Colts in limited starts and snaps.....He got more snaps with the Bills and produced more...The only thing holding back Jerry from being that consistent elite pass rusher is Jerry himself...The physical talent has always been there since at least college

[Superman]

I think we drafted Bjorn to be a Will,  but I think he's shown himself to be a Sam.

 

Fortunately for the Colts,  Newsome has shown himself to be a Will -- and hopefully a very good one.

 

If Bjorn winds up eventually replacing Walden while improving each year as he becomes more familiar with the OLB position,  I'd be OK with that.

 

While Bjorn is likely not going to live up to being a 1st round pick,  it appears that Newsome will more than live up to being a 5th round pick.

 

Sometimes these things can balance themselves out.

 

I agree (except I call it a Rush, not a Will, but I know what you mean -- weakside backer).

 

But I'd rather not have to balance out a substandard first rounder with a good fifth rounder. I'd rather we just nail the first rounders. I know picks get away sometimes, but it's still not fun. 

[rock8591]

If Jerry Hughes signs with another team, then time will tell if he's a product of Buffalo's system and great D-Line or if he's a legit regular 10 sack rusher a year.

 

I predict his future stats to have lots of 6-8 sack seasons in lieu of his current pace.

[NewColtsFan]

I agree (except I call it a Rush, not a Will, but I know what you mean -- weakside backer).

 

But I'd rather not have to balance out a substandard first rounder with a good fifth rounder. I'd rather we just nail the first rounders. I know picks get away sometimes, but it's still not fun. 

 

No disagreement.     I was in the camp favoring the FSU Corner (Nixon?)  or the Clemson WR Hopkins, both of whom went after we took Bjorn.

 

Wish it wasn't so....   but what are you going to do?

[Superman]

No disagreement. I was in the camp favoring the FSU Corner (Nixon?) or the Clemson WR Hopkins, both of whom went after we took Bjorn.

Wish it wasn't so.... but what are you going to do?

Rhodes. Xavier Rhodes. (We had Xavier Nixon. Might have crossed wires there.) He's who I wanted, also. Big time.

[esmort]

Rhodes. Xavier Rhodes. (We had Xavier Nixon. Might have crossed wires there.) He's who I wanted, also. Big time.

 

I wanted us to trade back, but I too was also hoping for Rhodes or Hopkins if we didn't ... I didn't like the Werner pick from the second it was announced.

[TKnight24]

I wanted us to trade back, but I too was also hoping for Rhodes or Hopkins if we didn't ... I didn't like the Werner pick from the second it was announced.

Same. You just don't take a project player with your 1st pick, it was a bad pick from the jump

Moment I heard FSU I knew 4-3 defense

You drafted a guy in the first to play OLB a position to my knowledge he's never played and left a WR & CB on the board. Just didn't make sense to me then, still doesn't now

Hopkins paired with Hilton

Rhodes paired with Vontae....... both were wins wins and we took the project road. Sometimes I honestly believe Grigson out thinks himself. His mindset to building a team is in the right place, but sometimes he jumps the gun too fast

[theanarchist]

I think many people thought Werner was drafted to replace Mathis... and he has temporarily because of suspension/injury.  But I think Werner was drafted to replaced Walden... after a couple of year (of learning the NFL game) or in a pinch if Walden didn't work out or if he got injured.

I've been saying for a while now that Werner looks to me to be better suited for the other side. Walden had a real good season last year and I think he's under contract for two more isn't he? People belly ached about how much Grigson spent on him but I think it was something like around 4 million per season which isn't all that bad especially given that he has played pretty well and hasn't been injured much. It'll be interesting to see what happens with the OLB position this year.

[ColtJax]

The team gave up on Hughes and we got nothing for him. Do you reallu think the team wants to make the same mistake again? He played out of position, Werner's playing out of position. That would be like drafting Vic Beasley then putting him at DT and wondering why he's not working out.. 

[Coffeedrinker]

They said in 2013 that they wanted him to back up Mathis at Rush. I've always assumed that the expectation was that he'd be a Rush long term. And he's a first rounder; you don't typically draft a 3-4 Sam in the first round, you draft a pass rusher in the first round.

 

At this point, I think his best projection is definitely Sam, but I don't think they drafted him to play Sam. Maybe to be an interchangeable piece, but if they eyed him as a Sam and still took him in the first, I'd call that poor decision-making.

 

 

I think we drafted Bjorn to be a Will,  but I think he's shown himself to be a Sam.

 

Fortunately for the Colts,  Newsome has shown himself to be a Will -- and hopefully a very good one.

 

If Bjorn winds up eventually replacing Walden while improving each year as he becomes more familiar with the OLB position,  I'd be OK with that.

 

While Bjorn is likely not going to live up to being a 1st round pick,  it appears that Newsome will more than live up to being a 5th round pick.

 

Sometimes these things can balance themselves out.

You guys could be right, I don't recall the Colts saying anything about him backing up Mathis nor did I find anything online in my few minutes of searching.

 

I think Werner is an above average to good football player, he does disappear at times and hopefully he improves on that.  IF not, he'll be gone and he'll be considered a first round bust.

[Dark Superman]

Trade him for what? No one wants an under achieved LB.