Lynch expected to get the ball in the Super Bowl

[amfootball]

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12404255/marshawn-lynch-seattle-seahawks-super-bowl-xlix-call-was-expecting-ball

 

Lynch spoke to the media in Turkey where he is apparently vacationing? Anyways, he said he expected to get the ball in the Super Bowl. No surprise there but this quote is very interesting:

 

"I had no problem with the decision of the play calling. I mean, you know, I think it was more of a ... how do I say this? When you look at me, and you let me run that ball in, I am the face of the nation. You know, MVP of the Super Bowl, that's pretty much the face of the nation at that point of time."

 

I think Lynch is insinuating here what many said after the game that the Seahawks didn't want  Lynch to be the MVP but wanted Wilson to be the hero. I think it is hogwash but I am not surprised that Lynch feels this way given he was laughing after the pick. He is one interesting individual.

[dw49]

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12404255/marshawn-lynch-seattle-seahawks-super-bowl-xlix-call-was-expecting-ball

 

Lynch spoke to the media in Turkey where he is apparently vacationing? Anyways, he said he expected to get the ball in the Super Bowl. No surprise there but this quote is very interesting:

 

"I had no problem with the decision of the play calling. I mean, you know, I think it was more of a ... how do I say this? When you look at me, and you let me run that ball in, I am the face of the nation. You know, MVP of the Super Bowl, that's pretty much the face of the nation at that point of time."

 

I think Lynch is insinuating here what many said after the game that the Seahawks didn't want  Lynch to be the MVP but wanted Wilson to be the hero. I think it is hogwash but I am not surprised that Lynch feels this way given he was laughing after the pick. He is one interesting individual.

 

 

That line of thinking was actually the first thing reported. Before all the "time to run twice .. pass once time left on the clock . Before the "this package vs that package etc etc etc. What you first heard was Carroll wanted RW to be the MVP and not Lynch. Far fetched ? Dunno but maybe after winning the SB last year , all those wins at the end of 2014 and the miracle vs GB , Carroll figured he had it in the bag and could pretty much decide how he wanted to win the game ? I have no idea of who thought what but this is not the first time I heard this explanation.

[BpG]

I think the rumors have become screams. The arrogance of the Seahawks, they wanted Wilson to be the MVP. 

 

 

They paid for that mistake. 

[-JJ-]

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12404255/marshawn-lynch-seattle-seahawks-super-bowl-xlix-call-was-expecting-ball

 

Lynch spoke to the media in Turkey where he is apparently vacationing? Anyways, he said he expected to get the ball in the Super Bowl. No surprise there but this quote is very interesting:

 

"I had no problem with the decision of the play calling. I mean, you know, I think it was more of a ... how do I say this? When you look at me, and you let me run that ball in, I am the face of the nation. You know, MVP of the Super Bowl, that's pretty much the face of the nation at that point of time."

 

I think Lynch is insinuating here what many said after the game that the Seahawks didn't want  Lynch to be the MVP but wanted Wilson to be the hero. I think it is hogwash but I am not surprised that Lynch feels this way given he was laughing after the pick. He is one interesting individual.

Actually he is one uninteresting individual if he said that.

 

I don't see Carroll giving a hoot about MVP in his play calling. They are nothing more than dime a dozen awards. Winning the game is what matters most.

[oldunclemark]

The surprise is that he spoke to the media in Turkey

[amfootball]

That line of thinking was actually the first thing reported. Before all the "time to run twice .. pass once time left on the clock . Before the "this package vs that package etc etc etc. What you first heard was Carroll wanted RW to be the MVP and not Lynch. Far fetched ? Dunno but maybe after winning the SB last year , all those wins at the end of 2014 and the miracle vs GB , Carroll figured he had it in the bag and could pretty much decide how he wanted to win the game ? I have no idea of who thought what but this is not the first time I heard this explanation.

This may end up being the most over analyzed call in football history. There just isn't enough time for Carroll to be as calculating as Lynch and others want to think. They are at the one. Clock is running. They just ran on first down. They see Pats have goal line package and decide to pass. I really believe the only reason the CALL is so earth shattering is because of the result which was a horrible decision by Wilson to throw the ball when he saw the rub did not happen AND Butler making a great play to undercut the route and pick the ball. I have no idea WHY Wilson is not getting more criticism. Every HC expects his QB in that situation to get out of that play and not throw it as soon as Browner grabbed Kearse which blew the play up right at the snap. I mean Wilson comes over to Carroll right after and asks him what happened. It was like he had his eyes closed and just threw it. The worst decision in SB history IMO but he is being bailed out by the call itself to pass.

[amfootball]

BTW, something else that is not being mentioned. 2 of the 4 NE TDs were passes from inside the 5 and both happened in the fourth quarter. And they both came on second down.

[dw49]

This may end up being the most over analyzed call in football history. There just isn't enough time for Carroll to be as calculating as Lynch and others want to think. They are at the one. Clock is running. They just ran on first down. They see Pats have goal line package and decide to pass. I really believe the only reason the CALL is so earth shattering is because of the result which was a horrible decision by Wilson to throw the ball when he saw the rub did not happen AND Butler making a great play to undercut the route and pick the ball. I have no idea WHY Wilson is not getting more criticism. Every HC expects his QB in that situation to get out of that play and not throw it as soon as Browner grabbed Kearse which blew the play up right at the snap. I mean Wilson comes over to Carroll right after and asks him what happened. It was like he had his eyes closed and just threw it. The worst decision in SB history IMO but he is being bailed out by the call itself to pass.

 

 

You would tend to think Carroll didn't consider who he would want to be the hero. I was just sharing what I remember hearing right after the game. 

[JPPT1974]

That is if the Hawks go back to SF Levi's Stadium in Super Bowl 50!

[amfootball]

You would tend to think Carroll didn't consider who he would want to be the hero. I was just sharing what I remember hearing right after the game. 

Yes. I remember hearing it too. I think folks are just trying to make more of the situation then what was there.

[Synthetic]

The real MVP would have been that circus catch that should have never happened. 

[Kylo Ren]

You know it stings when the players are still talking about it a month later

[CR91]

I would be shocked if lynch is still a seahawk after that

[amfootball]

I would be shocked if lynch is still a seahawk after that

Yeah. Me too. Those remarks were harsh and not one that will sit well with Pete.

[wizwor]

I think the rumors have become screams. The arrogance of the Seahawks, they wanted Wilson to be the MVP. 

 

 

They paid for that mistake. 

 

I just cannot accept this.  There is no higher aspiration in the NFL than the Lombardi.  No team, no individual would pass on that for any reason.  I accept Pete's explanation at face value.  It may have been a poor call or a poor execution, but it was not an attempt to influence who is the MVP.

[BloodyChamp]

BTW, something else that is not being mentioned. 2 of the 4 NE TDs were passes from inside the 5 and both happened in the fourth quarter. And they both came on second down.

And Pete Carrol or Darrell Bevell or whoever was behind the call's plan to win was "lets do what Brady did because it's Brady" right. Never change am.

[jvan1973]

BTW, something else that is not being mentioned. 2 of the 4 NE TDs were passes from inside the 5 and both happened in the fourth quarter. And they both came on second down.

how is that at all related to this thread?

[amfootball]

how is that at all related to this thread?

Passing inside the 5 happens all the time and happened twice in that game for TDs. The point was Bill had come out and defended Pete's call and in response Pete had said that the Pats had passed down there so Bill understood where Pete was coming from with the play call. Like I said previously the result of that play is completely on Wilson for throwing that ball blind. Browner had disrupted it from the snap and Wilson still threw it right to Butler who was standing where Lockette was supposed to be.

[amfootball]

And Pete Carrol or Darrell Bevell or whoever was behind the call's plan to win was "lets do what Brady did because it's Brady" right. Never change am.

I never thought of that but you are probably right.     It is always in a teams best interest to copy the best.

[lollygagger8]

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12404255/marshawn-lynch-seattle-seahawks-super-bowl-xlix-call-was-expecting-ball

 

"I had no problem with the decision of the play calling. I mean, you know, I think it was more of a ... how do I say this? When you look at me, and you let me run that ball in, I am the face of the nation. You know, MVP of the Super Bowl, that's pretty much the face of the nation at that point of time."

 

 

Man, that sure sounds cocky on Lynch's part. 

 

 

Regardless, Carroll handed the NE Cheaters the SB with that call to throw it. If they let Lynch run it, Seabirds win. 

[ViriLudant]

And Pete Carrol or Darrell Bevell or whoever was behind the call's plan to win was "lets do what Brady did because it's Brady" right. Never change am.

You do realize that when that play had been run throughout the season throughout the NFL, it had never been intercepted until that okay? Teams run a short throw like that all the time. That was the only one intercepted all season long .

[ViriLudant]

Man, that sure sounds cocky on Lynch's part.

Regardless, Carroll handed the NE Cheaters the SB with that call to throw it. If they let Lynch run it, Seabirds win.

The irony of your first and third sentences is brilliant.

[GoPats]

Lynch is one strange dude. I guess since he's got money we have to call him "eccentric." (I've learned that if you're poor and crazy, you're just crazy; if you're rich and crazy, you're "eccentric.")

 

It would not surprise me if he retires from the league as he's said he might. It would not surprise me if he's playing somewhere other than Seattle next season. But at this point, it would sort of surprise me if he's back there.

[lollygagger8]

The irony of your first and third sentences is brilliant.

 

I know. 

 

Carroll should've been the MVP for the pats. 

[amfootball]

I know. 

 

Carroll should've been the MVP for the pats. 

Prior to the SB, Carroll said he wanted to prove to Kraft that he made a mistake firing him in 1999 and hiring Belichick. All he did was deliver ring #4 to Kraft and Bill.

[lollygagger8]

Prior to the SB, Carroll said he wanted to prove to Kraft that he made a mistake firing him in 1999 and hiring Belichick. All he did was deliver ring #4 to Kraft and Bill.

 

Mission accomplished! lol 

[Gavin]

Had Lockette made a real effort (He pranced out of his route like he was a deer or something, He has to cut harder on that route and run with more urgency) in his route and to catch the ball this discussion don't even exist, It was a LOADED box...Everybody and there mother was expecting the ball to go to Lynch...If anything Kearse should have made a better block or maybe sub in Chris Matthews who is a much bigger wr to make that block...Bottom line is good play call and horrible and inexcusable route running by Lockette

[ViriLudant]

I know.

Carroll should've been the MVP for the pats.

Okay, I have to admit that I laughed when I read that.

[JerodMayo51]

Had Lockette made a real effort (He pranced out of his route like he was a deer or something, He has to cut harder on that route and run with more urgency) in his route and to catch the ball this discussion don't even exist, It was a LOADED box...Everybody and there mother was expecting the ball to go to Lynch...If anything Kearse should have made a better block or maybe sub in Chris Matthews who is a much bigger wr to make that block...Bottom line is good play call and horrible and inexcusable route running by Lockette

Yea Carroll has been made the scape goat here but the call wasn't foolish like a lot of Monday morning qbs are suggesting, it was just a very poorly executed play against a favorable matchup on the field personnel wise

Lockette could have greatly improved his route and effort, Wilson could have made a safer throw or read it better and just thrown it away.

It came down to execution and they failed to execute, while the Pats executed perfectly

[Clem-Dog]

He's not the first player in their locker room to say this. Hawk players are aware this decision was 100% political, we can either choose to use this first- hand account or not. Marshawn is a marquee leader and unfortunately for Pete his remarks were as divisive as they come. It will be interesting to see it play out.

Coaches have shown repeatedly that they care about helping certain players attain greatness. Many of Mannings TDs during the trio era could have easily went to Edge. Brady is another example, served him right to lose to Eli after he ran up the score on numerous teams throughout his record-setting season.

Carroll did it in 2014 against Denver in the Super Bowl when he took the restraints off RW, only after they'd built an enormous lead. Per the values of integrity, no one expected RW to be throwing 50/50 deep balls in the 4th to gain meaningless stats. But there he was, acting like it meant something.

[jvan1973]

Prior to the SB, Carroll said he wanted to prove to Kraft that he made a mistake firing him in 1999 and hiring Belichick. All he did was deliver ring #4 to Kraft and Bill.

do you have a link to that quote?

[amfootball]

do you have a link to that quote?

It was said during the Super Bowl broadcast by one of the announcers who had interviewed Carroll prior to the game.

[jvan1973]

It was said during the Super Bowl broadcast by one of the announcers who had interviewed Carroll prior to the game.

I highly doubt it

[amfootball]

I highly doubt it

Watch the game. I have many, many times.

[NewColtsFan]

There are actually posters in this thread who are calling Lynch's remarks "harsh" and are saying they wouldn't be surprised if Lynch would get cut for saying what he did.

 

I don't think some of you follow football too much.     There was nothing "harsh" about it....    strange maybe,  but strange is Marshawn Lynch's middle name.

 

Seattle wants Lynch back.    He's got one more year on his deal and the Seahawks are trying for an extension.

 

And after Lynch's comments,  nothing has changed except perhaps a few eye rolls up in Seattle.        

 

It's business as usual.

[amfootball]

There are actually posters in this thread who are calling Lynch's remarks "harsh" and are saying they wouldn't be surprised if Lynch would get cut for saying what he did.

 

I don't think some of you follow football too much.     There was nothing "harsh" about it....    strange maybe,  but strange is Marshawn Lynch's middle name.

 

Seattle wants Lynch back.    He's got one more year on his deal and the Seahawks are trying for an extension.

 

And after Lynch's comments,  nothing has changed except perhaps a few eye rolls up in Seattle.      

 

It's business as usual.

Maybe. But I think his act is growing thin on them. To accuse Carroll of not running him because he did not want him to the MVP is not only harsh but outlandish and reflects poorly on Carroll.

 

It all may be moot as he may retire.

[jvan1973]

Watch the game. I have many, many times.

what does the game have to do with petes supposed quote?

[amfootball]

what does the game have to do with petes supposed quote?

Huh? it was said during the game.

[BOTT]

Passing inside the 5 happens all the time and happened twice in that game for TDs. The point was Bill had come out and defended Pete's call and in response Pete had said that the Pats had passed down there so Bill understood where Pete was coming from with the play call. Like I said previously the result of that play is completely on Wilson for throwing that ball blind. Browner had disrupted it from the snap and Wilson still threw it right to Butler who was standing where Lockette was supposed to be.

99.9% of Brady's TD passes are within the 5 yard line lol

[BloodyChamp]

You do realize that when that play had been run throughout the season throughout the NFL, it had never been intercepted until that okay? Teams run a short throw like that all the time. That was the only one intercepted all season long .

Yeah it was ran by a bunch of teams not in the Superbowl. Then when 1 team in the Superbowl ran it they lost the Superbowl. What a great play!