RUMOR: Colts eyeing trades for vet WRs, Brandon Marshall among one of the WRs.

[evilleseniorfan]

If Reggie retires as an active player, I hope he would stay associated with the team as a receiver coach/consultant, which may possibly be his best future role.  If this occured, what would be the cap impact?

[NBColtsFanatic]

There are times when you do trust the Bleacher Report?

;)

yep, there are

[oldunclemark]

Brandon Marshall in 2012.. 118/1508/11

Brandon Marshall in 2013.. 100/1295/12 (Alshon Jeffery had >1400 this same year).

He was injured in 2014...      61/ 721/8

 

His salary would be $7.5M but he would have no dead cap potential if we were taking over his contract via trade.   The contract is not unreasonable IMO (a little more than Reggie made last season).  He could almost be like another 1-2 year rental but much, much better (assuming he comes back healthy) than the rentals we've had recently.  The only thing I'd worry about with Marshall is how meshes in the locker room.  He can be a distraction if he's not happy for some reason. And that is a big concern.

 

If he's likely to be cut, then I'd think he'll be available for a low round draft pick (5th or 6th).  Otherwise, yes.. wait for the cut.

Listen to ponyboy!

[dw49]

I wouldn't trade for him, personally. I think I'd be okay with signing him for three years, $18m, or something like that.

I think if he was cut , he would get around 7 mill per year.  I would also give up something like this years 3rd and maybe a conditional 2016 pick. I kinda like the contract he has .. 7.5  7.9 and 8.3. None of it would be guaranteed after this year and if somehow he falls off a cliff , just cut him. 

[Colts_Fan12]

I'd much rather have Marshall then Johnson

[Dark Superman]

Hmmmmmm all these rumors are making my head spin....

Mine too, but it's exciting and I never know what kind of Colts news I am going to wake up too.

[Dark Superman]

Andre Johnson or bust.

I wish we had him a few years ago.

[Coltswarriors]

I'd much rather have Marshall then Johnson

 

This.

 

His play has slipped in recent years IMO.

[crazycolt1]

You were right with your comment about not trusting Bleacher Report. They are a joke in my opinion. They miss a lot more than hit on a story. Sometimes they out and out make up a story.

[crazycolt1]

Why are some of you wanting Andre Johnson? You realize he and Reggie (abet I love Reggie) are on the same career trajectory right? And let me tell you, it's not up.

 

At this point, Brandon Marshall would be the least of our worries in terms of behavioral-related issues. The Colts have LB's punching pizza boys and RB's hitting the blunt to worry about.

 

The Colts need to make a big splash while they still have the money available to do so. You never know how long your window will be open.

So you have Bradshaw guilty before he goes to court? He did plead not guilty so maybe it would be a good thing to wait before convicting him yourself.

[bananabucket]

this is one rumor I really hope comes to fruition.  would improve our passing attack significantly. 

[GoColts8818]

This.

 

His play has slipped in recent years IMO.

i am not endorsing a trade for Johnson with this. I just want to get that out there first.

I think you have to ask why has johnson's play slipped. It could have something to do with the fact he's been playing with backup QBs and guys who should be on the practice squad as his QB the past couple of years. So that's what Grigson would need to figure out, has Johnson's play slipped due to age or because of other issues that could be corrected here.

[BOTT]

Not near as bad as they need a physical outside presence.

Meh, they drafted moncrief and signed Carter....I'm fine with that. What they don't have is anybody with quickness on short plays over the middle.

[ColtsLegacy]

Meh, they drafted moncrief and signed Carter....I'm fine with that. What they don't have is anybody with quickness on short plays over the middle.

 

Both are extremely young, raw, and unproven. One of them or both could be the answer down the road but I think we need a more proven guy now to really compete offensively. I certainly do not feel good about either of them being our #2 this year unless they show major, major improvement.

[Dustin]

Meh, they drafted moncrief and signed Carter....I'm fine with that. What they don't have is anybody with quickness on short plays over the middle.

 

Wouldn't call Moncrief physical. The big knock on him coming out of college was that he played small. It'd be like calling Coby Fleener a physical presence lol. 

[BOTT]

Wouldn't call Moncrief physical. The big knock on him coming out of college was that he played small. It'd be like calling Coby Fleener a physical presence lol.

Yeah, I figured someone would call me on that. but I still stand by not being overly concerned about the receiver position

[ColtJax]

2 locker room cancers, Marshall and Wallace. Wallace didn't have a bad year, yet the Phins want to get rid of him at all costs just to get rid of him. Marshall has been a locker room cancer every place he's been, both have a hugh cap number.

[John Waylon]

I seriously dislike Marshall. He's a head case. A sympathy seeking "look at me" instigator.

[BigQandTheManiac]

2 locker room cancers, Marshall and Wallace. Wallace didn't have a bad year, yet the Phins want to get rid of him at all costs just to get rid of him. Marshall has been a locker room cancer every place he's been, both have a hugh cap number.

Wallace's problem, to me, seems to be he's not a team player...he just wants to get paid, marshal on the other hand,aside from his rookie days,his only problem is, that he wants to win. i wouldn't really call him a cancer for being passionate. I would take marshall in a heartbeat. Wallace i wouldn't touch with a 10 foot pole.

[Dustin]

I seriously dislike Marshall. He's a head case. A sympathy seeking "look at me" instigator.

 

I find it in poor taste to call someone who suffers from a legit mental health condition a "head-case". It implies that he's the way he is (whatever that may or may not be) on purpose which isn't the case. 

[John Waylon]

I find it in poor taste to call someone who suffers from a legit mental health condition a "head-case". It implies that he's the way he is (whatever that may or may not be) on purpose which isn't the case.

No, but he goes out of his way to let you know about his condition, and make himself a martyr for it.

There are a great many people with metal conditions who don't act the way he does about it.

[Dustin]

No, but he goes out of his way to let you know about his condition, and make himself a martyr for it.

There are a great many people with metal conditions who don't act the way he does about it.

 

I guess, but who cares? He also does a ton of charity work and raises awareness for it. I guess I'd rather reserve my dislike for things that aren't so petty. 

[12dalegend]

Iʻd do a 3rd rd pick 4 Marshall he would be a mismatch for defenses not to mention T.Y. will be open a lot more GO COLTS!

[Deano1818]

I just watched a little of NFL network game Bears vs Packers

 

Marshall would catch a pass and it took 3 packers to bring him down......

 

He looked like he was twice the size of the CB

 

He looked  awesome ... this was in 2014

 

It mentioned on the show that he was still getting over a foot injury

 

Cutler was getting crushed on every play.......

 

 

This guy is still a threat...... 

 

 

The Pack crushed them.... but it wasnt on Marshall.

 

 

He could help this team

[Dustin]

I just watched a little of NFL network game Bears vs Packers

 

Marshall would catch a pass and it took 3 packers to bring him down......

 

He looked like he was twice the size of the CB

 

He looked  awesome ... this was in 2014

 

It mentioned on the show that he was still getting over a foot injury

 

Cutler was getting crushed on every play.......

 

 

This guy is still a threat...... 

 

 

The Pack crushed them.... but it wasnt on Marshall.

 

 

He could help this team

 

Marshall is one of my favorite players in the league because of how physical he is both before and after the catch. He makes plays like this on the regular:

 

[Deano1818]

Watch the way he swats away CBs ..... his stiff arm is one of the best I have seen

 

Marshall is one of my favorite players in the league because of how physical he is both before and after the catch. He makes plays like this on the regular:

 

[John Waylon]

I'd be more open to trying to move up to the middle of the 1st to try to land a WR than any of these names.

If Cooper falls past 10, I think we should try to get in on that.

[JPFolks]

I'm not really going to think this is going to happen now and I doubt it but thoughts?

http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/2379290-insider-buzz-colts-eyeing-veteran-wrs-locked-in-on-acquiring-brandon-marshall

I don't always trust B/R

 

I have to say that was a pretty unimpressive report by them.  They put out 4 names they say the Colts are looking at.  First, I don't believe for a second the Colts would consider Wallace.  Second, he eliminates VJ as if he somehow has so much more info about VJ than the Colts could have.  That is a JOKE.  Next, Andre Johnson is WAY TOO OLD.  Sure, you might get a year for him.  Are we suddenly in a "one year or bust" mode like Denver is contemplating right now?  I would rather see them draft another solid WR or use those late round picks to scoop up a couple of the best UDFA's still out there and seeing if one or more of them can play while also considering a second tier solid veteran as a failsafe with a relatively benign contract and with a bit more tread on their tires. Just as Peyton could life a B- receiver to a B+ receive, I think Luck can do the same thing.  Brandon Marshall might be good for a 2 year stretch but does come with as much risk as reward I feel.  Not only the money which we need to fix the o and d lines, but we also have to find a safety, maybe two in a market with few options, all of which will have to be overpaid due to competition for them.  The draft is light on them as well.  I would rather (if needed) hold as much money back as we could to find one next year should a top notch long term prospect become available in any number of scenarios (trade, draft, FA signing whatever....).  Marshall could be a huge hit or a huge miss as all FA's can be, but he also has history, baggage and age/health not on his side.  If he were a draft prospect, those types of issues would scare a lot of folks off taking him where his physical skills would place him.   I still think even if we got Marshall, we'd still need to draft another WR if Reggie retires as a safety.  But as a report, that BR piece was a piece all right.. like something they phoned in at the last second.  He didn't even say "according to my sources...blah blah blah" but rather it just seemed entirely made up in his head.  

 

I love a rumor as much as the next bored fan waiting for something to discuss, but that report has as much relevance to reality as any speculation made by anyone here.  Marshall isn't a tough or surprise idea for the Colts, and as many have said, we'll be linked to all of them until something really happens.  Frankly, I'd rather have Terrance Knighton than Brandon Marshall for pure impact on this team.  Perhaps we should start a rumor... or wait.. there's already been 10 of those. 

[esmort]

I'd be more open to trying to move up to the middle of the 1st to try to land a WR than any of these names.

If Cooper falls past 10, I think we should try to get in on that.

 

That would cost way too much .... far more than trading fro Marshall

[John Waylon]

That would cost way too much .... far more than trading fro Marshall

Depends what the deal is. This years first and a future pick.

We're going to get FAR more use out of a deal like that than anything we will get from Marshall over the next year or two.

[esmort]

Depends what the deal is. This years first and a future pick.

We're going to get FAR more use out of a deal like that than anything we will get from Marshall over the next year or two.

 

I don't have a value you chart in front of me, but to move up that far (from 29 to around 10) I would guess you are talking at least this years 1st + 2016 1st, and a couple other mid round picks. Not worth it to move up that far in the 1st for anything other than a franchise QB IMO.

[NBColtsFanatic]

I have to say that was a pretty unimpressive report by them. They put out 4 names they say the Colts are looking at. First, I don't believe for a second the Colts would consider Wallace. Second, he eliminates VJ as if he somehow has so much more info about VJ than the Colts could have. That is a JOKE. Next, Andre Johnson is WAY TOO OLD. Sure, you might get a year for him. Are we suddenly in a "one year or bust" mode like Denver is contemplating right now? I would rather see them draft another solid WR or use those late round picks to scoop up a couple of the best UDFA's still out there and seeing if one or more of them can play while also considering a second tier solid veteran as a failsafe with a relatively benign contract and with a bit more tread on their tires. Just as Peyton could life a B- receiver to a B+ receive, I think Luck can do the same thing. Brandon Marshall might be good for a 2 year stretch but does come with as much risk as reward I feel. Not only the money which we need to fix the o and d lines, but we also have to find a safety, maybe two in a market with few options, all of which will have to be overpaid due to competition for them. The draft is light on them as well. I would rather (if needed) hold as much money back as we could to find one next year should a top notch long term prospect become available in any number of scenarios (trade, draft, FA signing whatever....). Marshall could be a huge hit or a huge miss as all FA's can be, but he also has history, baggage and age/health not on his side. If he were a draft prospect, those types of issues would scare a lot of folks off taking him where his physical skills would place him. I still think even if we got Marshall, we'd still need to draft another WR if Reggie retires as a safety. But as a report, that BR piece was a piece all right.. like something they phoned in at the last second. He didn't even say "according to my sources...blah blah blah" but rather it just seemed entirely made up in his head.

I love a rumor as much as the next bored fan waiting for something to discuss, but that report has as much relevance to reality as any speculation made by anyone here. Marshall isn't a tough or surprise idea for the Colts, and as many have said, we'll be linked to all of them until something really happens. Frankly, I'd rather have Terrance Knighton than Brandon Marshall for pure impact on this team. Perhaps we should start a rumor... or wait.. there's already been 10 of those.

Yeah I agree. It is annoying that B/R always seems to say the Colts are contenders for a player. They said it for Gore, Vereen, Marshall, Jackson, Johnson, Wallace, R. Bush and I think a few more. They just insert the Colts and say, "I think so and so will be a perfect fit for the Colts." I doubt any of this happens anyway. I say either resign Reggie or/and??? Hakeem and use a late round pick on a WR. If the Colts don't resign both Reggie and Hakeem, they should get one of the FA Wrs like Cecil Shorts or someone. Somebody who could take pressure of T.Y. and be a reliable possession receiver.

[Restored]

So you have Bradshaw guilty before he goes to court? He did plead not guilty so maybe it would be a good thing to wait before convicting him yourself.

Please. Pleading not guilt to a majiruana charge is about as common as it gets, regardless of who it is. Even if he is not guilty, as a professional football player who is already walking a tight rope due to age and injuries, he shouldn't be in the kind of positions to make himself vulnerable to these accusations.

[akcolt]

2 locker room cancers, Marshall and Wallace. Wallace didn't have a bad year, yet the Phins want to get rid of him at all costs just to get rid of him. Marshall has been a locker room cancer every place he's been, both have a hugh cap number.

I would take Stevie Johnson over either one of those guys. They are both going to want big bucks or we are going to be taking on big contracts.

 

Marshall is difficult because you know he is talented but he is also a locker room problem don't think we need that with our young WR's.

 

I think we really need another WR just not sure it is one of those guys.

[TKnight24]

I hope we can get him, but I hope the Bears release him, then we sign him. He has a cap hit close to 10 million I think. Marshall, Hilton, Moncrief, and Carter would be killing it next season.

Not without a running game and offensive line they won't

[VaAllDay757]

Now this an idea I would like to happen

[Colts420]

5th rounder max

not even a 5th round.  Maybe a 7th. Dont need his attitude in locker room

[wig]

No, but he goes out of his way to let you know about his condition, and make himself a martyr for it.

There are a great many people with metal conditions who don't act the way he does about it.

 

By act the way he does about it, do you mean being open and honest while pursuing help for himself and others that suffer from the same thing?  

[BigQandTheManiac]

not even a 5th round. Maybe a 7th. Dont need his attitude in locker room

If you had Jay cutler as your qb you would have an attitude too. I mean seriously you guys can be so picky at times.The guy wants to win and he is passionate about the game he loves. What is so wrong with that??????! He's not as bad as he was a few years ago.I would love to have marshall on the team, HUGE upgrade over anything we have at WR now aside from hilton. Most of You guys were against Murray,Gore,Peterson,McPhee,Suh, Now marshall. And funny thing is all of those options are huge upgrades over anything we have now on offense or defense.

[John Waylon]

By act the way he does about it, do you mean being open and honest while pursuing help for himself and others that suffer from the same thing?

Yeah, that whole thing where he acts a fool, and then goes "don't blame me, it's my condition. I can't help it."

That defense doesn't work in the legal system, why it does elsewhere is beyond me.