ViriLudant Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 "Cheating is ok"Patriots fans everybody.Except no cheating had been proven.Just as much evidence of the Colts tanking in 2011. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViriLudant Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 Oh you in particular miss a lot. It is obvious when you try to act like others think, when they don't, that the score of the AFC championship game had anything to do with the psi of the footballs used. Also, your opinion of the investigation is irrelevant.As is yours .What do we know?Nothing .Not even the PSI.Or how the NFL refs "measured" anything . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Morty Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 but you would think that games that have been played in far worse temps than a rainy 50 degree night would have presented this issue before now. For all we know, it has...this is the first time that balls have been re-measured after the initial pre-game check. Had this mid-game check been a standard procedure, there would be a ton of data available to say whether or not a drop at half-time is normal or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 That's an EZ one Hooshie MOON + JUPITER PATRIOTS 45 --------------------------- = ------------------------ CAR + HAIRBRUSH COLTS 7Your logic is consistent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csmopar Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 If it's ultimately determined that the Pats took their footballs into an area and purposedly deflated them to their preferred specs ...WHAT SHOULD THE PUNISHMENT BE ?A) Monetary fineB) Fine / Loss of 1st round pickC) Fine / Loss of 1st round pick / Suspensions for Coach and all involved .D) Fine, stripped of title, and post season ban for 2 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bababooey Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 For all we know, it has...this is the first time that balls have been re-measured after the initial pre-game check. Had this mid-game check been a standard procedure, there would be a ton of data available to say whether or not a drop at half-time is normal or not.I'll feed the troll and ignore the fact you just ignored literally everything I said to prove you wrong and only acknowledged the one thing we agreed. I will agree again, in saying Roger Goodell said in his press conference at media day that he doesn't believe they check balls at halftime regularly so no, I don't believe it is a standard procedure. Again, we just had Superbowl 49, the game has been played far earlier than just 49 years, in conditions that could sometimes be negative degrees. We are supposed to believe all the balls naturally lost a pound "or more" in psi going from 70s to 50 degrees and rain in 2 quarters and some pregame time? By that logic would the brick that Lawrence Tynes kicked in Green Bay in 2007 or any cold or snow game in the entire history of the game of football be 3-4 or even more PSI under the limit by the end of the game so that the refs placing the ball would feel a considerable difference at least once in the history of the game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynjin Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 As is yours .What do we know?Nothing .Not even the PSI.Or how the NFL refs "measured" anything .I never said my opinion was relevant, but then I am not the one talking about witch hunts am I? Once the Wells report on the investigation comes out, hopefully we will know the answers to those questions and more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bababooey Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 As is yours .What do we know?Nothing .Not even the PSI.Or how the NFL refs "measured" anything .*YAWN* this again. Bro didn't I tell you like a month ago even before the superbowl during media week that dean blandino confirmed the referees followed protocol which includes gauging (WITH A TOOL - not the dictionary definition of squeezing it like a melon at stop n shop) the balls properly before the game. It's nonfactual garbage like this which is why I have 10 warning points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernCal Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 *YAWN* this again. Bro didn't I tell you like a month ago even before the superbowl during media week that dean blandino confirmed the referees followed protocol which includes gauging (WITH A TOOL - not the dictionary definition of squeezing it like a melon at stop n shop) the balls properly before the game. It's nonfactual garbage like this which is why I have 10 warning points.dont get banned. he's trouble maker/instigator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColtsSouljah Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 OTL at this very hour is running a story featuring a former ref on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoPats Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 I really wish the NFL would either finish up the investigation or at least do something to confirm or deny the information leaked by "sources" for the past month. Because what happens, when info is out there long enough, is that perception becomes reality. This was never better exemplified than in a recent John Clayton article that referred to Patriots taping other teams' practices as part of "Spygate." That never happened, but Clayton referred to it like it did, and that's how these things tend to go. I just want real information. No anonymous sources, no persons "close to the investigation." If the Patriots are guilty of anything nefarious, then punish them accordingly, but if not, then for the love of God let's move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bababooey Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 I really wish the NFL would either finish up the investigation or at least do something to confirm or deny the information leaked by "sources" for the past month. Because what happens, when info is out there long enough, is that perception becomes reality. This was never better exemplified than in a recent John Clayton article that referred to Patriots taping other teams' practices as part of "Spygate." That never happened, but Clayton referred to it like it did, and that's how these things tend to go. I just want real information. No anonymous sources, no persons "close to the investigation." If the Patriots are guilty of anything nefarious, then punish them accordingly, but if not, then for the love of God let's move on.They videotaped the Rams Superbowl walkthrough. A walkthrough is a slowed down version of practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoPats Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 They videotaped the Rams Superbowl walkthrough. A walkthrough is a slowed down version of practice. No they did not. Thank you for proving my point though. http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/patriots_nfl/new_england_patriots/2008/05/apology Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bababooey Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 No they did not. Thank you for proving my point though. http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/patriots_nfl/new_england_patriots/2008/05/apologyAh ok boston herald article, you're right thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColtsSouljah Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 The OTL story featured Mark Baltz, former NFL head linesman. He called the patriots actions "suspicious." He reported seeing odd things with the locker room attendant for years, and that he reported his concerns to the league but nothing ever came of it. He said that he never saw anything unusual out of any other NFL team's locker room attendants, but saw suspicious activity from the patriots on a regular basis.Polian and Dungy have said Baltz is "very well respected" and "highly praised" by the league at large. Cue the denial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoPats Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 Ah ok boston herald article, you're right thank you. Can't tell if that's sarcasm so here you go. http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3395152 Google it. There was no walk-through tape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ant Ave Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 Can't tell if that's sarcasm so here you go. http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3395152 Google it. There was no walk-through tape. Save your breath GOPATS ...This IS a Deflategate thread ( on a Colts sight ). I suggest u just sit back n enjoy the ride Actually - I have to commend a good amount of posters overall on this COLTS STRONG sight for their well thought out comments . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bababooey Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 Bart Hubbuch just tweeted that an unnamed NFL official sold one of the Deflategate balls and has been fired http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/02/18/report-nfl-fired-employee-who-sold-deflategate-footballs/ Her is profootball talk on it, Schefter broke the story but he works for ESPN so it's not as credible as WEEI or boston herald. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 Mod note: This thread is pinned in NFL General. Please restrict updates and discussion about this topic to this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lollygagger8 Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 45-7. Had nothing to do with the balls.This is just ESPN using unnamed sources for ratings . Sad that people think that this is newsworthy. Nobody said it had anything to do with the outcome of the game except you.....multiple times.Cheating is cheating. Lol, I'm not sure which is more sad: The people that don't think it's newsworthy because they don't want their team exposed as cheaters..... Or that the league is trying to sweep this under the rug and "hope" people will forget about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlacknGold77 Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 Per Adam Schefter, an NFL employee handed the ball to the attendant to give to the official. And to those thinking an attendant interacting with the team is nefarious. Google Red Lightning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViriLudant Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 dont get banned. he's trouble maker/instigatorROFLEvery single point I stated is 100% accurate. Prove otherwise . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernCal Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 ROFLEvery single point I stated is 100% accurate. Prove otherwise .>boasting on patriots in colts forum>instigate derailments like this one that is about to happen>every single post is basically pats related stuff ex: comparing players of both teams(colts-pats). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ÅÐØNϧ 1 Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 Except no cheating had been proven.Just as much evidence of the Colts tanking in 2011. nonsense on both points troll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bababooey Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 ROFLEvery single point I stated is 100% accurate. Prove otherwise .Why would I spend time going through old threads from the last month to do that? Proving you wrong isn't worth my time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radiogirl Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 ROFLEvery single point I stated is 100% accurate. Prove otherwise.I'm sorry. Won't anybody play with you on your playground? Maybe if you were nicer to the other children you would have more luck. Or, perhaps this is just the wrong playground for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViriLudant Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 Nobody said it had anything to do with the outcome of the game except you.....multiple times.Cheating is cheating. Lol, I'm not sure which is more sad:The people that don't think it's newsworthy because they don't want their team exposed as cheaters..... Or that the league is trying to sweep this under the rug and "hope" people will forget about it.How hard is this for you to understand ?Never mind that Adam Schefter has now destroyed this story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViriLudant Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 nonsense on both points trollTroll?I find it amusing that I recite facts (Colts didn't tank, Patriots have not been proven to have cheated in the AFCCG), and you resort to name calling . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OffensivelyPC Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 As is yours .What do we know?Nothing .Not even the PSI.Or how the NFL refs "measured" anything .Of course you know nothing. You're the guy who tried to make the argument that Golden Tate is better than Calvin Johnson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViriLudant Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 Per Adam Schefter, an NFL employee handed the ball to the attendant to give to the official. And to those thinking an attendant interacting with the team is nefarious. Google Red LightningThis. Deflate Gate destroyed. An NFL official game McNally the ball to give the other official. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernCal Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 Troll?I find it amusing that I recite facts (Colts didn't tank, Patriots have not been proven to have cheated in the AFCCG), and you resort to name calling .prove that the colts tank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViriLudant Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 Of course you know nothing. You're the guy who tried to make the argument that Golden Tate is better than Calvin Johnson.Except that's not what I argued. Nice try .I said that Tate was more productive than Megatron. Fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bababooey Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 This. Deflate Gate destroyed. An NFL official game McNally the ball to give the other official.Not at all. There are 11 balls that are a pound under, this is just another stupid piece attached to it, like the McNally kicking ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViriLudant Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 prove that the colts tankThey didn't. That's my point . People believe it; doesn't make it true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernCal Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 They didn't. That's my point . People believe it; doesn't make it true.lies. you were ripping the colts for tanking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amfootball Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 This. Deflate Gate destroyed. An NFL official game McNally the ball to give the other official.No, you missed the best part. There were two officials doing the game and one was fired after the game for trying to sell the balls on the side for profit. Basically, what's being suggested is that an official swiped out a real ball for a fake one and that the fake was handed to the Patriots attendant, McNally. Yet again the league looks like the Three Stooges. Kraft is getting so much more than an apology. lol. http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/report--nfl-official-fired-in-deflate-gate-case-for-selling-football-205328811.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColtsSouljah Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 ROFLEvery single point I stated is 100% accurate. Prove otherwise . How about your insane claim from the "what punishment is coming" thread where you said every team does at their Super Bowl parade what the pats did (in terms of the trolling and obscene shirts), but you have now ignored my request for a shred of proof for that for over two weeks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bababooey Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 prove that the colts tankLet's not feed the troll. We had Dan Orlovsky in what looked like the third year of a hangover. We almost won in week 16 or 17 to jacksonville which would have costed us and we almost beat the patriots that year too. Bucs sit their starters in second half of last game this year and subsequently scored zero second half points and gave up 16 fourth quarter points lost by 3 to new orleans but nope we tanked and everyone cares about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViriLudant Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 lies. you were ripping the colts for tankingQuote me, then. Where did I say that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricker182 Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 I don't like him or the coach They're the only reason I dislike that organization. Kraft is very slimey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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